Our contract that is signed by the client informs them of what versions we
program for.
We also ask what browser the vlient is using - i.e 5 is very very old and
we never support it.
On Thu, 08 May 2008 15:46:54 +1000, chris | chrisbuttery.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
I'm
As a web designer, you should test your website in both current and older
browser versions (within reason!) - and get your friends to look at it on
their systems as well. This will help you see if there are colour
inconsistencies as well as coding ones. Unless you are designing for an
intranet and
Hi Chris,
In some cases customers are locked into to using a particular browser
because of the Standard Operating Environment within their company. If
this isn't the case, you should try and convince your customer to
upgrade to a newer browser.
Other than that, if you have access to a
Hi everyone,
My first post also... Have a look at http://browsershots.org/ It's not
perfect as it generates only static pics but there are a lot of browsers
covered...
chris | chrisbuttery.com wrote:
Hi All,
I'm relatively new to this group this is my first post. So here goes.
My
On 08-May-08, at 11:16 AM, chris | chrisbuttery.com wrote:
Do you have older browsers handy to test them with?
Yes, and now you can too [1]! Multiple IEs allows you to run copies of
various versions of IE, going all the way back to IE3. I have noticed
that conditional comments do _not_
Hi Chris
The best thing to do is to download Multiple Ie and install it on your
machine. Quite small actually but really good to test.
http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE
Fuji
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:46 AM, chris | chrisbuttery.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
I'm relatively new to
Dear Chris,
The only way is to develop the website for the most use browsers, IE6, and
also respect the new softwares like FF and Safari browsers.
IE5 dont support a lot of CSS at all and its not wort trying to fic the
problem.
You are not god but tell the client to get a deascent browser in
Michael Persson wrote:
I find it bad to have to rebuild my computer to have the opportunity
to have
a deascent set of standard browsers. Does my clients have the same
setup??
Ummm, aren't you building sites for your client's customers to use? It's
the internet you have to match browsers
My question to you guys is how do you develop test your websites to
ensure they
are interpreted correctly by older more popular browsers ? Do you have
older
browsers handy to test them with?
Personally I wouldn't support IE5 for a full design, it's just too old - for
many reasons they should
Hi All,
Thanks so much for all the feedback. This is fantastic. I really
appreciate it.
Thanks again
Chris
Ben Buchanan wrote:
My question to you guys is how do you develop test your websites to
ensure they
are interpreted correctly by older more popular browsers ? Do you
have older
I tend to use a good old unordered list for such things Bob.
- Original Message -
From: Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:03 AM
Subject: [WSG] The Problem of adjacent links
I have run into a problem with having two adjacent links
I have run into a problem with having two adjacent links at the top of a
page. The WAI validator complains:
10.5 Until user agents (including assistive technologies) render
adjacent links distinctly, include non-link, printable characters
(surrounded by spaces) between adjacent links.
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
10.5 Until user agents (including assistive technologies) render adjacent
links distinctly, include non-link, printable characters (surrounded by
spaces) between adjacent links. [Priority 3]
What is the current thinking on
Hello Chris, also u cant use this too:
http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage.
It IETester and this program have 4 versions of IE (5.5, 6, 7 and 8 beta 1).
I use the Multiple IE too, but a have some unexpected problems when i try to
view some site in IE 5.5 version !!!
Enjoy !!!
I haven't used the Tredosoft version of multiple IEs,but I did use an earlier
incarnation of the same approach in 2005, withIE4, IE5.0 and 5.5 among the
browsers I tested. The results were notencouraging.
This approach is much more lightweight than having to first downloadmultiple
virtual
IE5 ?
Each time I hear about IE5 I want to laugh, honestly, IE6 is old, and
most companies that actually create revenue in our modern times use
Vista and IE7, who would worry/use IE5?
My friend who I just finished designing website for is using IE6 but
his computer is like 2-3 years old, what kind
Hi Bob,
I have run into a problem with having two adjacent
links at the top of a page.
You can use a list as someone mentioned, you can also add a hidden
character. Example:
div id=sitelink
p
[a href=sitemap.htmlSite Map/a
span | /span
a
On 08-May-08, at 2:33 PM, Designer wrote:
The WAI validator complains [...]
Do you have to build a WAI-validating site? If you don't have to, I
would suggest ignoring that guideline, as it doesn't necessarily
enhance accessibility for visitors. I would suggest using :focus to
provide
libraries, government organizations, military, and other large
organizations have locked down computers that don't allow installation
of fire fox. They also have purpose built web applications that only run
in IE6 that are critical for their day to day jobs.
That is a major reason for the
From a usability/accessibility point a view.
The most common separator used in such circumstances (and therefore that
most expected by screen-reader users) is the vertical bar.
i.e. IF you add extra characters for accessibility, use the ones they are
familiar with (usability).
Addition:
Krystian - Sunlust wrote:
IE5 ?
Each time I hear about IE5 I want to laugh, honestly, IE6 is old, and
most companies that actually create revenue in our modern times use
Vista and IE7, who would worry/use IE5?
My friend who I just finished designing website for is using IE6 but
his computer is
I have a quick question and would like your thoughts.
I am working with a team of coders that code images like:
img src=/images/18-digestive-diseases-2col.jpg alt=Digestive
Diseases border=0 height=150 width=388 /
My question is, do you need the border, height, and width or should that
be done
Hi James,
By specifying the dimensions in the markup, you're helping the browser to know
what space is taken up while it is fetching the files. This means the page
doesn't jog up and down as images are loaded.
Cheers,
Tony
-Original Message-
From: Likely, James A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi James,
do you need the border, height, and width or should that
be done in the style sheet or is it needed?
Exactly what Tony said regarding width and height, they're beneficial. Lose
the border attribute, though. That should be done in the style sheet as you
suspected.
Cheers.
Mike
I don't think it is worth the time an effort to support old browsers
like IE 5. There aren't enough users who are surfing the web using such
old equipment to be worth the development time and expense.
There is always another browser to test. I think we need to focus on
the major ways people
What is the current thinking on this? How can I do this WITHOUT putting any
characters in there? I don't emwant/em any characters in there!
You could put the two links into a list. That would separate them into two
disctinct elements without requiring punctuation.
I'm not 100% sure of the
Personally I would place the border in the CSS (although unless the image is
a link, it's surely unncessary), but the height and width in the HTML. My
reasoning is that these will (or at least may) vary for each image, and I
can't see the benefit of giving every image its own id just so that you
On Tue, 6 May 2008 19:19:24 +0530, Amrinder wrote:
I was reading this article on Smashing Magazine which shows how to increase
code
readability,
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/05/02/improving-code-readability-with-css-
styleguides/
but I have listened to Andy Clarke over Lynda.com
On Thu, 8 May 2008 15:52:38 +0100 (BST), Stuart Foulstone wrote:
From a usability/accessibility point a view.
The most common separator used in such circumstances (and therefore that most
expected
by screen-reader users) is the vertical bar.
How about a border?
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