Re: [WSG] CSS and printing absolute units

2008-10-28 Thread Luke Hoggett
Hi, Try using picas (pc) or points (pt). I haven't had this problem before myself, but I believe that it may be caused by the fact that printers have no concept of what a cm or mm is. A good description of pc and pt is at http://www.guistuff.com/css/css_units.html (down the page a bit)

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-28 Thread liorean
liorean wrote: (Netscape had originally intended to use the name LiveScript.) 2008/10/28 Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually, it was initially released as LiveScript and renamed later. IIRC Navigator 2.0 also supported a mocha: pseudo-protocol like the javascript: pseudo-protocol we

[WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Henrik Madsen
Can anyone guide me re. best practice for marking-up physical addresses that would appear like this: 123 Acacia Avenue Suburb State Postal Code Tel 888 9581 4077 Fax 888 9581 2835 Or is it acceptable to keep all in p and use /br's TIA Henrik

Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Ross Bruniges
would have a look at - http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard From: Henrik Madsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, 28 October, 2008 8:23:07 Subject: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses Can anyone guide me re. best practice

Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Ollie
Yep, as Ross said mark it up with Microformats On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Ross Bruniges [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: would have a look at - http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard -- *From:* Henrik Madsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Sent:*

RE: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Ted Drake
Personally, IF the address had a name associated with it, I would use a definition list. However, there are some purists out there that can't see beyond using a dl for anything other than defining a word. But John Doe is a term and his address, phone number, etc are describing him: John

RE: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Darren Lovelock
Why not use the address tag and a definition list? I believe that also helps a little with localised SEO :) address John Doebr / 123 Acacia Avenuebr / Suburb State Postal Codebr / /address dl dtTel:/dtdd888 9581 4077/dd dtFax:/dtdd888 9581 2835/dd /dl Darren Lovelock Munky Online Web Design

Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread David Dorward
Darren Lovelock wrote: Why not use the address tag Because most addresses on webpages do not provide contact details for the author. and a definition list? Because addresses are not definitions of things. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/

Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Johan Douma
Well, what's wrong with microformats? It's really the way to go, and search engines like yahoo, technorati already use these formats. There are already quite a lot of generators like this one: http://microformats.org/code/hcard/creator No need to do any code, maybe is you want to change the

Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Ollie
The address tag was never actually built for addresses (a common misconception), and addresses are also not lists? I would highly recommend marking it up with Microformats and using the built in classes to style this as you need. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Darren Lovelock [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Ross Bruniges
I don't think David said anything against microformats. The problems were with the use of the address element (which should only be used if it contains the contact details of the person who created a page) and the use of a definition list as an address for someone is not a definition of the

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-28 Thread Brett Patterson
When you say support, are you saying that Internet Explorer will not execute JavaScript, or it will execute JavaScript as JScript? And in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript link you provided it states that JavaScript is heavily object-based, so should I assume this as well to be correct?

RE: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-28 Thread michael.brockington
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Patterson Sent: 28 October 2008 12:35 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please When you say support, are you saying that Internet Explorer will not execute JavaScript, or it will

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-28 Thread Brett Patterson
Actually it did say it is heavily object-based. But now, under Dynamic Programming -- Objects as associated arrays, it says it is almost entirely object-based. Looks like it just got updated. Internet Explorer does read JavaScript, but does it support JavaScript as a whole, or does it read

[WSG] Accessible JS/Mootools

2008-10-28 Thread Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd
Hi Everyone, I'm trying to implement a few features from the mootools library on a clients web site. Basically I'm trying to get 3 element to load differently on the page load. the 1st one is the navigation bar which I think is completed the second is a div that has a .png image

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-28 Thread Hassan Schroeder
liorean wrote: Anyway, by the time the first full version of Navigator that had it was released (2.0) it had already been renamed to JavaScript, so I'd hardly say it was released under the LiveScript name. Well, at this point I don't know exactly when a version of Navigator was released

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-28 Thread liorean
2008/10/28 Brett Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually it did say it is heavily object-based. But now, under Dynamic Programming -- Objects as associated arrays, it says it is almost entirely object-based. Looks like it just got updated. Internet Explorer does read JavaScript, but does it

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-28 Thread Brett Patterson
There is only one JavaScript, as created by Netscape. Though it can be used for other things, such as programming an application, I think that is worded right. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: liorean wrote: Anyway, by the time the first full

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-28 Thread Breton Slivka
JScript was originally created as an exact reverse engineering of Javascript (including the mistakes), so that IE could read pages with javascript on them. This was of course, during the browser wars when they were competing for features. Jscript has fallen a bit behind Javascript by now, so there

[WSG] need to get a negative margin working

2008-10-28 Thread kevin mcmonagle
div id=leftcol a href=# h2 class=cosanhead *(I need this heading to have a negative left margin over the leftcol div but it wont budge)* /h2 /a .. /div heres the css : a:link h2.cosanhead { height:90px; margin-left:-57px; width:150px;

RE: [WSG] Accessible JS/Mootools

2008-10-28 Thread Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd
can anyone help me with this? Many Thanks Mathew O'Connor http://www.essentialebizsolutions.net/ 0800 3277935 _ Disclaimer: This email and its attachments may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or

Re: [WSG] need to get a negative margin working

2008-10-28 Thread Luke Hoggett
Hi, Try swapping the order of the h2 and anchor to start with, the solution will be a lot easier. L kevin mcmonagle wrote: div id=leftcol a href=# h2 class=cosanhead *(I need this heading to have a negative left margin over the leftcol div but it wont budge)*

Re: [WSG] Accessible JS/Mootools

2008-10-28 Thread Brett Patterson
It says the page validates. And I visited it, but don't see no problems with it. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can anyone help me with this? Many Thanks Mathew O'Connor http://www.essentialebizsolutions.net/ 0800 3277935

RE: [WSG] need to get a negative margin working

2008-10-28 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:37 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] need to get a negative margin working div id=leftcol a href=# h2

[WSG] CSS invisible to IE

2008-10-28 Thread Fuji kusaka
Is there any way to code css (not conditional inline css), so that the CSS apply online to FF? -- Fuji kusaka *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

Re: [WSG] CSS invisible to IE

2008-10-28 Thread Luke Hoggett
Hi, This list isn't really a help desk. For such things Google is your friend. Anyway, there are various methods/hacks available. My preference is to use child selectors eg #container .something { /* this will be used in ie6 */ } #container .something { /* this will be used in

[WSG] Accessibility - Scanning PDFs

2008-10-28 Thread Thiru Yoganathan
Hi Guys, I am dealing with a very large website, with around 20 000 PDF files. I want to test if these PDFs are Compliant with W3C standards. I know that some of these files will be I just want to find the ones which aren't. Does anyone know of a good tool to use to test PDF files. I currently

Re: [WSG] Accessibility - Scanning PDFs

2008-10-28 Thread Dave Hall
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 14:39 +1000, Thiru Yoganathan wrote: Hi Guys, I am dealing with a very large website, with around 20 000 PDF files. I want to test if these PDFs are Compliant with W3C standards. I know that some of these files will be I just want to find the ones which

[WSG] RE: Accessibility - Scanning PDFs [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2008-10-28 Thread Chris Vickery
I've been looking into this recently too. I found a lot of info from Adobe of how accessible Acrobat can be made, but my experience was that it takes a long time to set them up properly. The success (or not) comes from how cleanly the pages were set up in the first place, with proper heading