[WSG] Holy grail, Nifty corners and IE

Hello list-o-answers, I've done a very dangerous thing! I've created a layout that uses the holy grail[1] method and the nifty corners script[2]This works a treat in FF, etc but goes crazy in IE when the window is resized and sometimes when you hover over the nav links. I'm hoping some of

[WSG] Help needed with IE drama...

Hello fellow standardites, I'm losing hair over a very annoying IE anomaly... http://golfgods.dev.netconcepts.com/layout.html [check it in FireFox to see how it should be] the bit at the bottom (the section with the border switched on) isn't behaving as i expect it to. its simply an image in a

Re: [WSG] Help needed with IE drama...

We've worked out that the issue was caused by the comments in the HTML file. Has anyone had this sort of issue before? If there a solution other then removing the comments? Cheers D On 11/4/05, Darren Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello fellow standardites, I'm losing hair over a very

[WSG] Resizing issues in IE

Hello, This is something i remember having to deal with years ago...although it was a Netscape issue not an IE on. I have a nasty 3 column design that falls apart when the window is resized (IE ONLY). I'm hoping one of you lovely people would have come across this problem before and perhaps

Re: [WSG] Font Size Re-sizing

I know there are a lot of old school designers out there (and when I say designer I mean those people who spend their hours in photoshop and NOT doing the markup) who still insist that font-sizes be in point size. That is simply not practical in the web-space (as, I'm sure you know)...generally I

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

I use a very simple rule that will allow for CSS validation... Its the * html selector IE thinks there's an extra element outside the HTML element...as we know there isn't. what this means is we can exploit it for our IE hack. Have a look at the example: #wrapper { /* all browsers other

Re: [WSG] Site Check: VVE

Great work Tathan! The markup is very tight indeed! there is very small thing - that is you've left out the type attribute on the link tag at the top of the document. link rel=stylesheet href=../Skins/Vision.css type=text/css media=screen / Otherwise its great. It looks good and behaves well!

[WSG] Vertical Alignment + sliding doors

Hello World! I've been struggling with a vertical alignment issue...have a look at the links below: http://shopperanswers.dev.netconcepts.com/understanding-your-shoppers.php [line 86] http://shopperanswers.dev.netconcepts.com/includes/default.css [line 288] i'm having an issue the with tab

Re: [WSG] Page structure - navigation

Nothing's wrong with putting your nav at the bottom of your source. Actually I think its a rather good idea! People using screen readers dont want to bombarded with the same set of links each time they visit a new page. Thats why the whole skip to content thing came about...so users with screen

Re: [WSG] Page structure - navigation

But I guess it boils down to personal pref. D On 6/24/05, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darren Wood wrote: Moving your nav to the bottom of your structure removes the need for a skip to content... But, conversely, can create the need for a skip to navigation link before

[WSG] Reminder: Auckland Geeks

Just a reminder to all the Aucklanders in da house - tonight is the informal WSG get together at the The Belgian Beer Café in Takapuna ( 136 Hurstmere Road) from around 7pm. Looking forward to meeting some other local web standards geeks! Yay. Darren

Re: [WSG] font-size =1em (in the body) vs. font-size = 101%

personally I always use the default font sized provided by css...if I need it bigger then I use em values. here's an example: body { font: small Arial, sans-serif; } p { 1em; } h1 {2em; } h2 {1.8em; } etc... That way you know that the font will _always_ be readable. Even if you start off

[WSG] weird behaviour in opera and IE...sometimes

Kia Ora, I've just relaunched my website and it was all going quite well until i tried to look at it in Opera (8.0.2). it displays the home page perfectly, but the moment I click on any link it tries to download the page as application/octec-stream...what the?! Does this have something to do

Re: [WSG] weird behaviour in opera and IE...sometimes

EOT D On 6/22/05, Darren Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kia Ora, I've just relaunched my website and it was all going quite well until i tried to look at it in Opera (8.0.2). it displays the home page perfectly, but the moment I click on any link it tries to download the page

[WSG] Attention Auckland

Your local WSG Core members have finally pulled it together and organised an informal WSG meet. The plan is to meet at the Belgium Beer Garden in Takapuna for a 'meet n greet', casual geekfest. Let's have a bit of a natter. Let's exchange war stories. Let's drink and celebrate the fact that web

Re: [WSG] style sheet set up

I may be a little late to reply but hopefully this will help you all as much as it helped me. A lot of scalable programming is done using a framework of some sort (a set of prewritten bits of code aka modules) but a lot of designers are afraid, or confused by that pure geek way of thinking (i

Re: [WSG] Auckland WSG?

Williams, Cara wrote: Hi Everyone, So whoever is from Auckland could you holler my way ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I'll probably pick your brains about the job opportunities over there too. Hi Cara, I know there are at least two of us - Peter Asquith and I are working on getting a meeting together

Re: [WSG] Styling Forms

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening all, I know there's two schools of thought regarding forms where one uses a table and the other a definition list to style and layout the data fields. I have a simple form on a client's Contact Us page, and I wondered if there's a consensus as to which method

Re: [WSG] IE 5 Meltdown

Drake, Ted C. wrote: Hi Darren You can use a filter to show a style sheet only to ie5, it's pretty simple and you only have to declare a few margins and paddings. Look at the style sheet at http://www.csatravelprotection.com for an example. Thanks for that, Ted. I've opted for conditional

Re: [WSG] 2 questions: antispam code Doc type...

I use the following bit of code that seems to validate fine (also - lightweight): script type=text/javascript !-- emailE=('darr' + 'en' + '@' + 'webd' + 'eveloper.co.nz') document.write('a href=mailto:' + emailE + '' + emailE + '/a') //-- /script HTH D Devendra Shrikhande wrote: Thanks for the

Re: [WSG] Centre DIV Vertically? Any compliant methods?

Joey wrote: Hi Everyone, I wondered if anyone has a solution on how to centre a DIV vertically. I found this information, _http://www.quirksmode.org/css/centering.html_ but its uses a table. And I dont want to use a table as I am conforming to WAI AAA. Anyone know any methods to centre

Re: [WSG] MSN redesign

john wrote: Anybody else notice that MSN.com now uses CSS? Can't say I'm impressed with the design, but with the money that Microsoft is investing to try and compete with Google, the new MSN search (and MSN.com) is going to get some serious attention. Like Yahoo's redesign, MSN's will

Re: [WSG] IE layout issues - Closed

hey all, Thanks for the help, everyone! I'm now slowly ironing out the issues. :) Cheers Darren Darren Wood wrote: I've recently designed (and partially built) an online store. Its in its 'soft launch' phase as there are some issues with IE

[WSG] IE layout issues

Hello list-o-geeks, I've recently designed (and partially built) an online store. Its in its 'soft launch' phase as there are some issues with IE. None of the developers (including me) have a windows machine available to test on IE, etc... Would you guys mind having a look at

Re: [WSG] Search Engines and CSS

I'm not sure if they do. But what I can tell you is that there is no point at all to try and fool search engines. Search engines (google) will give you more rank if your site is honest, well built and on topic. You can try all the tricks in the world...but the fact remains: if your site is

[WSG] XHTML 1.0 Strict and PHP

Hey All... Is the 'name' attribute depreciated in XHTML1.0 strict? If so how do i get around the fact the PHP only processes raw post data if its passed using the name atribute. Does anyone know how to get PHP to play ball? Or is this just something I've got to deal with...? Replies off list

Re: [WSG] Ids in body?

Wayne Godfrey wrote: Is it possible to use two or more ids in the body of a page? Hi Wayne, Id's have to be unique. i.e. only one per page. you can reuse classes, though. Cheers Darren ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

Re: [WSG] Big Name Site Goes Standards

Tom Livingston wrote: Hello all, I may be a little late with this, so forgive me, but I just read here http://web-graphics.com/ that http://www.turner.com/ just relaunched using a standards-based layout/construction, etc. It's a very nice, clean and useable... blog... I mean... site. Anyone

Re: [WSG] color schemer

Ryan Reynolds wrote: Flipping this on its ear: are there any tools to help those with good colour perception to preview what a design might look like to those who are colour blind. you may want to give http://colorfilter.wickline.org/ a go. It does a great job of converting text, bgcolors, and

Re: [WSG] Wellington WSG meeting

Joseph Lindsay wrote: This probably goes without saying, but I'll ask anyway just in case it's overlooked: Can someone who's going to the Wellington meeting tonight please blog/record happennings so that those of us that can't attend can find out what went on? Photos if appropriate (or

[WSG] New Zealand Web Standards??

This may be completely off topic, but I feel I should rant to you lot as you all share my views... I've noticed quite a few kiwis on this list, and that is *awesome*! It means more standards based design and development in our fair land...or so you'd think. I get _very_ depressed when i see high

[WSG] IE frustrations...

Hello all, No one should ever have to ask these sorts of questions..but due to the pantsness of IE i have no choice http://dontcom.com You may notice that the right nav drops down to the bottom of the document in IE. I've been looking at the CSS for WAY too long so its all starting to

Re: [WSG] using br - was [ image captions?]

Thanks Thorsten, That's what I intended of course, but I wasn't sure how to get the text underneath the image. Am I really allowed a br/ then? Isn't that considered 'presentational? Anyone? why not add a clear: right; on the image, and contain the whole lot in a div... or use the faithful dl.

[WSG] New site launched.

Hello team! I've just built a new site[1] and wouldn't mind if you could take a few minutes to look it over in as many platforms/user agents as you can. I develop on a Linux box running KDE, so I've only been able to check the site on Firefox and Konquerer. Both user agents seem to render the

Re: [WSG] New site launched.

Darren Wood wrote: Hello team! I've just built a new site[1] and wouldn't mind if you could take a few minutes to look it over in as many platforms/user agents as you can. I develop on a Linux box running KDE, so I've only been able to check the site on Firefox and Konquerer. Both user agents

Re: [WSG] two column IE issues - SOLVED

Darren Wood wrote: snip / IE completely wrecks my design, refusing to float the sidenav to the right. Any ideas how I could possibly fix this? [NOTE: this thread is likely to bore most of you so please send responses offlist, and I'll send the solution at the end once one presents itself.] Hey

[WSG] two column IE issues

Hey team! Like the rest of you I wish I didn't have to worry about IE. I do all my dev on a linux box running Firefox 0.10. Needless to say all my XHTML and CSS looks exactly the way I want it to...then I start testing in IE...sigh / http://dev.webdeveloper.co.nz/site/ [The CSS is in the

Re: [WSG] Select form element doesnt validate

Michael Kear wrote: snip / Here's the code for the offending form element involved: label for=ReferredbyReferred By:/labelselect id=Referredby name=Referredby option value=0 selectedSearch Engine/option option value=5 SELECTED = Selected Heard about the site on the radio/option option value=1

Re: [WSG] select as form label

Nick Lo wrote: snip / As I've just put at... http://www.trikeinteractive.com/form_example.html I like the idea...but have a look at it in firefox 1.0 and you'll see why it probably isn't a good idea. each time I click on the dropdown the input box gets the focus, thus proving v.difficult to

Re: [WSG] Another proper use of dl's question

Nick Lo wrote: dl dta href=cow_jumps_over_moon.html ... Cow jumps over moon/a/dt ddAn unnamed cow has been seen jumping over the moon say residents.../dd dta href=dish_spoon.html ... Dish runs away with spoon/a/dt ddThe mystery continues as crockery takes to the streets.../dd /dl

Re: [WSG] Web Design Scene in Christchurch

Andy Budd wrote: Sorry for the rather random and off topic post, but I wonder if anybody here knows what the web design scene is like in Christchurch, NZ? Are there any particularly well known web design firms for there, especially those working in the web standards arena? Andy Budd There is a

Re: [WSG] Yahoo CSS'ing

Brian Cummiskey wrote: Good writeup- but I must say yahoo has done a horid job so far. HTML Errors: 223 The css validates, but it is horrid. in 2 days, how could one ever remember what #v or where#v #v4.h appears in the document? IMO, they need to get some developers in there who actually know

Re: [WSG] gBrowser from Google

Webstandards wrote: Hi everyone I was recently told by a friend that there is talk of a browser to be released soon by Google called gBrowser I have googled for any news on it, and what support for standards it may have, but haven't really heard much.. The talk is that GBrowser will be based

Re: [WSG] Joe does Oz

Cameron Adams wrote: Yeah, a few 8:30AM beers would go down nicely ;o] amen, brother! ;) D http://www.webdeveloper.co.nz ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web

Re: [WSG] Calling all the Kiwis

Martin Baylis wrote: Hey all I'd love to know the number of Kiwis on the list. Also your locations. Do we have enough Kiwis to start running some meetings of our own? I'm heading to WE04 - any other Kiwis going?? Cheers M Me - I'm a Kiwi...I'm in auckland. I wish i could afford the WE04 - still

Re: [WSG] Best Aussie and Kiwi web standards designers

Andy Budd wrote: snip / I've come across several really nice sites designed by aussies and kiwis, many of which I've added to my links list. However I'm always on the lookout for more cool, standards complains sites, so wondered who you guys felt which companies and individuals were turning out

Re: [WSG] Best Aussie and Kiwi web standards designers

er... [1] http://www.tvnz.co.nz [2] http://www.e-government.govt.nz/docs/web-guidelines-2-1/ Darren Wood wrote: ...the TVNZ Site[1] is a nice example... The NZ government has released a pretty sound set of Web Standards[2] which is slowly making people think more about their webdesign

Re: [WSG] Best Aussie and Kiwi web standards designers

Peter Asquith wrote: Darren Wood wrote: Have a look at some of the sites coming out of NZ at the momentthe TVNZ Site[1] is a nice example... I'm also based in Auckland implementing web-based applications and doing my best to spread the web standards message. Good to see there are others