Have you tried *not* floating the dd?
#apiresults dt
{
width: 8em;
float: left;
clear: left;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
font-weight: normal;
}
#apiresults dd
{
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
}
Should be enough.
Patrick
-Original
As widows/orphans in paragraphs depend heavily on
various factors (screen/window and font size, to name a few),
there is no reliable way I'm aware of that could help you here,
I'm afraid.
Unrelated to this issue, but interesting nonetheless in the
context of widows/orphans:
Title: Message
Ok,
the proper general term for this is "Assistive Technology" (AT for
short).
Text/braille browsers: Lynx and BrailleSurf
Screenreaders and speech browsers: Dolphin Supernova, JAWS, IBM HPR,
pwWebSpeak, WindowsEyes.
Most
of these have demo versions you can download.
It's a real heads-up to listen to a
website the way
the people using speech software like JAWS hear it.
Or, as I always say: it's a real eye opener ;)
(and before anybody pipes up about how un-PC this is, a colleague
of mine who is visually impaired often uses that phrase as well - for
a bit
This got me started fairly quickly with my JS DOM experiments
http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/tutorials/index.php?tut=0part=24
Patrick
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster / University of Salford
http://www.salford.ac.uk
winmail.dat
Check your table's width, padding and margin. In the worst case, drop the width from
100% to something like 99.5%. I may be wrong, but I think this is another instance of
the box model problem IE has...
Patrick
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster / University of Salford
From: Chris Blown
[...]
One of the things that I find hard to believe in this whole debate is
that tables are some how seen as a non standards based approach.
I see that view a lot from people who just discovered the beauty of CSS,
and are going a bit mad in the fight to kill off tables, even
I'd suggest the best option would be to make it a background image on
the body tag. Your body tag is going to be your top level containing
block so it will always stretch to the height of your content.
Maybe being pedantic, but the top level container would be the HTML element,
and backgrounds
From: Mordechai Peller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I recall reading somewhere that you can style the title element.
Interestingly enough, I was playing with that the other night...
http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/details.php?id=34
Works best in Firefox / Gecko based browsers at the
Off topic really, insofar as it doesn't directly solve your problem...but your post
actually made me think the other way around, if you will...how to display a
table, containing tabular data, in a more sexy way.
A first attempt, still riddled with bugs, can be seen here
I'd argue that calendars are a prime example of tabular data, so I
would strongly advise against attempting any table-less, pure-css solution that
can convey the exact same semantic structure that a properly built table
with correct THs with row and column scope can give...
Anyway, this could
Can I copy your statement, paste it in Illustrator, make it
prettty bold, and
post it here at work on the bulletin board? Please?!
You could, but then you'd just show that you haven't understood
the basic premise behind his statement...as you're effectively
trying to force a certain visual
Yes, but are there any really hard statistics about what the
public is
doing. We know roughly 7% don't use or diable javascript. But what
about disabling styles?
rant type=unfocussed rambling
Why is that relevant? Heck, it's almost like we're going back to the
old how many % of users
-Original Message-
From: Andy Budd
[snip]
Whereas I can see a good reason to use semantic HTML, is there really
much point in worrying if your ID's/classes have semantic meaning.
Becasue they are user defined, there probably is never going to be a
time when that information will
Now, can someone tell me why that
works? Doesn't
this entirely defeat the purpose of end tags? I thought spaces were
ignored.
Simple answer: IE is a buggy browser. It tries, it's better than previous
versions, but it's still plagued with annoying problems like this one.
Yes, in theory
As far as I'm aware, those are handled by the user agent and
outside of the remit of CSS, if you will...
Personally, it would strike me as being an interference with
the users' expected behaviour if you changed that...
Patrick
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster /
In this particular case though, I'm assuming the styling that Barbara is after is only
an extra feature, some eye candy, and that the printouts still make sense on
browsers that don't support print styles...so, as well meant as the warning was, let's
not lose sight of the real issues.
If I say
Actually, by default most browsers (nowadays anyway) seem to
leave out background images (and colours...and borders...etc) on printouts;
this needs to be explicitly *enabled*.
P
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster / University of Salford
http://www.salford.ac.uk
However, if it comes to court, the case will - in my mind anyway - have to be made
about specific features that are or aren't discriminating, and not (just) general
principles. As I said - and I don't think we're disagreeing here, just want to spell
it out - you *can* design for the majority,
From: Barbara Dozetos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
but
because we
can't reliably control page breaks,
Page-break-after should be supported since IE4.0 (not tested
it though) http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/page.html#page-break-props
P
Patrick H. Lauke
Has anyone ever toyed with this idea before and if so what were the
results???
I'm amazed how people seem to suddenly get this A-HA! moment. In the last
few months I've read various forum discussions, blog entries and
articles about wouldn't it be great to create your CSS via PHP/ASP/etc?
I
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/articles/webrev/21.html
*
The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/
See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
for some hints on posting to the list getting help
Could anybody confirm if this new method solves the non-streaming problem
of the Flash Satay method ? http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay
Cheers,
P
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster / University of Salford
http://www.salford.ac.uk
-Original Message-
I said it to a few colleagues at the time, and I still hold the same opinion now: it's
cute, for sure, but here we are, talking about semantic, structurally sound markup,
and the division between presentation and content...and then something like this comes
along which is perverting markup
You just need to add extra padding to the relevant bits, if I'm not mistaken...
#navigation
{
clear: both;
text-align: left;
padding: 15px;
padding-bottom: 4px; /* changed */
}
#navigation a
{
text-decoration: none;
color: #000;
border: 1px solid #000;
border-bottom: 0px;
padding-bottom: 5px; /*
From: Leo J. O'Campo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]
A good point... but if someone elects to turn off javascript they do it
at their own disadvantage.
*cough* accessibility *cough*
Also don't forget that in some instances the specific setup/capabilities of machines
is not up to the
What you describe can only be achieved with javascript, if you want to
avoid server calls and do it all in a single document...the page needs to
keep track of which link has been pressed, for instance...something that
CSS is not meant for...
Patrick
Patrick H.
On Tuesday, March 30, 2004, at 04:41 PM, P.H.Lauke wrote:
What you describe can only be achieved with javascript, if you want to
avoid server calls and do it all in a single document...the page needs
to
keep track of which link has been pressed
And seeing most people use IE, you might as well use javascript.
Whether or not people use IE has nothing to do with whether or not they have
javascript enabled or not.
Available, yes...but not necessarily enabled.
Patrick
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster
Your server is erroneously sending the CSS as text/html, which is the wrong MIME type
as it should be text/css.
Check your server config.
p.s.: apologies if this formats wrong...outlook web client is buggy
Patrick
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster
External
The classics:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slidingdoors/
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slidingdoors/
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slidingdoors2/
Hope this helps,
Patrick
-Original Message-
From: Barbara Dozetos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd second that...I'll get my Door to my garden prepped for conversion :)
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=041%2F041%2Ecss
Patrick
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster / University of Salford
http://www.salford.ac.uk
-Original Message-
From: Andy Budd
From: Jeremy Flint [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I do believe that he said officially, not really speaking
for himself,
but for the CSS community that supported that method as a
whole.
rant
Well...I'm part of the CSS community, and I was not consulted
on this...so how presumptuous of him to
Change
onclick=window.open('index.cfm?id=23',
to
onclick=window.open(this.href,
This way, if you change your link's href,
you don't have to remember to change it in the
javascript as well.
Also...while we're on sitepoint, you could
just look at Ian Lloyd's perfect pop-up
article
From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
Did I cover myself :)
Yup, your behind is safe for now ;)
P
*
The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/
See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
for some hints on
The purist's answer would of course be to use MathML
(and to heck with missing native support in IE) to mark it
up properly from a semantic point of view... ;-)
Patrick
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster / University of Salford
http://www.salford.ac.uk
rejections or reservations ? If it's the latter, then any of the various
Making a business case for accessibility type articles, extolling the benefits
of CSS, plus a reminder that the majority of today's browsers can cope with CSS
layouts just fine (except, of course, the boss' wife's Netscape
PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WSG] Definition list wish
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:20:35 -, P.H.Lauke wrote:
What's wrong with
ul
li
dl
dtAlbatross/dt
ddA sea bird/dd
ddA tasty snack at the movies/dd
*visually* you'd have a table...but what about the structure
underneath the shiny facade ?
Patrick
-Original Message-
From: James Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 10/03/2004 23:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: Re: [WSG]
Stab
in the dark time: could it be that for some reason today the content of that
site was not valid xhtml, and some browsers started behaving funny because of
that and not applying styles the way they should ? Or are you calling multiple
stylesheets, and the sheet with all the positioning
Frank,
your main problem from what I can see is that, as you're floating everything,
you need to use a lot of clear, but as you're still removing things from the
normal flow, you're getting issues with having the container elements, which have
the background colours applied, to show through
Then again, as Microsoft will be shoving Longhorn down everybody's throat
through OEM sales, having it pre-installed on all new PCs, and probably
bombard the general populace with a full-spectrum advertising/conversion
campaign (not to mention the myriad of applications that, all of a sudden,
Alternatively...is IE set to such a high security level that it's not
accepting cookies at all, or not accepting cookies of sites without a
P3P certificate ? Worth checking as well, while you're at it...
http://www.google.com/search?q=IE+P3P+cookies
Patrick
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