Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-15 Thread Jayachandran Kandasamy
Hi All, I am encountering a strange problem in image mapping technique, I have mapped a certain area of an image using polygon tool and picked the coordinates, I applied mouseover event to swap the image but I am able to see the white dashed border along with the image during the output this

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-15 Thread Tom Livingston
I was able to recreate my situation with text and bg images. I am fascinated how this thread grew. All great things to keep in mind. TY all. Sent from my iPod On Oct 15, 2010, at 3:35 AM, Jayachandran Kandasamy jayachandran.kandas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am encountering a strange

[WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Tom Livingston
Are image maps still ok? -- Tom Livingston | Senior Interactive Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread David Dorward
On 14 Oct 2010, at 17:27, Tom Livingston wrote: Are image maps still ok? Still? Server side image maps are as inaccessible as ever. Client side image maps had issues last time I looked at them, but things might have improved since then. http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/mapalt.html is

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Tom Livingston
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:52 PM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote: On 14 Oct 2010, at 17:27, Tom Livingston wrote: Are image maps still ok? Still? Server side image maps are as inaccessible as ever. Client side image maps had issues last time I looked at them, but things might

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Christian Montoya
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:52 PM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote: On 14 Oct 2010, at 17:27, Tom Livingston wrote: Are image maps still ok? Still? Server side image maps are as inaccessible as ever. Client

RE: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Steve Green
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Christian Montoya Sent: 14 October 2010 18:56 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Image Maps On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Christian Snodgrass
...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Christian Montoya Sent: 14 October 2010 18:56 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Image Maps On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:52 PM, David Dorward

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread cat soul
On Oct 14, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Christian Snodgrass wrote: Basically image maps can be used, but they aren't usually a good idea. A better method would be to split it up into separate images and smash them together to look like one map. This lets you add alt tags and what-not to make it

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Christian Snodgrass
You can use transparent images and negative margins. The simplest way to set this up would be to use a program like Fireworks (which lets you move stuff around freely and gives you an x and y). Cut up all of your states into separate images with transparent backgrounds. Then you can bring them

RE: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Dan Freeman
: [WSG] Image Maps You can use transparent images and negative margins. The simplest way to set this up would be to use a program like Fireworks (which lets you move stuff around freely and gives you an x and y). Cut up all of your states into separate images with transparent backgrounds

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On 10/14/10 1:23 PM, Christian Snodgrass wrote: If you needed to get more exact, you could use any number of Javascript script to get more exact results. And all this thrashing about is going to provide a more accessible solution than an image map? The exact solution depends on the exact

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Christian Snodgrass
In the US map problem, an image map may make sense. However, there are many more in which an image map doesn't make sense. For example, having a graphical menu with an image map, having a header image map for links, etc. These would be better done using separate images. Also, sometimes a

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Henrik Madsen
US map example: http://davidlynch.org/js/maphilight/docs/demo_usa.html Henrik Madsen +61 08 9387 1250 hen...@igenerator.com.au www.igenerator.com.au On 15/10/2010, at 7:19 AM, Christian Snodgrass wrote: In the US map problem, an image map may make sense. However, there are many more in

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread cat soul
On Oct 14, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Christian Snodgrass wrote: I'm not saying image maps should never be used... I'm saying that you should keep in mind alternatives because image maps are frequently abuse That is completely clear and understandable. And, I would as (as I don't know) are image

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Mathew Robertson
US map example: http://davidlynch.org/js/maphilight/docs/demo_usa.html That isn't really a good example of accessibility + images-maps, as it doesn't have any... maybe it could be updated to use the tabindex attribute. cheers, Mathew Robertson

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Christian Snodgrass
That map also illustrates the problem with image maps. Disable images and refresh the page. It becomes completely unusable (granted there are ways to make the image map work better with no images, but this is the more common situation). If they were all separate images with their own alt tags,

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Christian Snodgrass
As far as I know, image maps are not deprecated... just often abused so you should really consider your options. I agree with your little analogy as well. I'd evaluate exactly what the problem is and then pick a solution. For example, if all the shapes in the potential map are square, it'd be

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Mathew Robertson
That is unnecessary - area's support alt. With both CSS and images disabled, a useragent should be able to draw the USA-map graphically using a fallback css; if using a text-browser, it could render it as a list - whether they actually do, is an entirely different problem, ie: if an image has

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

2010-10-14 Thread Christian Snodgrass
Agreed. However, with the separate images you can put them in an unordered list yourself to control the display a bit more closely. I'm not saying any of these are 100% good all the time. I like to soak up as many different techniques as possible and choose the one that is the most appropriate