Re: [WSG] question about screen reader behavior when pulling in content via Ajax fetch

2011-03-27 Thread Steve Faulkner
hi tee which the page has no dtd, body and html tags? if it renders in the browser the lack of thes above should not effect screen readers. note if you have a html file consisting solely of: Ppoot/P the DOM constructed by the browser looks like this: HTML HEAD/HEAD BODY Ppoot/P /BODY /HTML

Re: [WSG] question about screen reader behavior when pulling in content via Ajax fetch

2011-03-27 Thread tee
Thank you all for the feedback! Steve's one is most assuring. One page uses quirks mode should be OK if it doesn't cause issue to Screen Reader. tee On Mar 27, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Steve Faulkner wrote: hi tee which the page has no dtd, body and html tags? if it renders in the browser

Re: [WSG] question about screen reader behavior when pulling in content via Ajax fetch

2011-03-26 Thread Oliver Boermans
Hi tee On 26/03/2011, at 4:50 PM, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote: I have a small login popup box, and is using Ajax fetch to pull in the login page. Due to the way the system works, the login page default is to use a page template instead of just the chunk of login code placed in a header

Re: [WSG] question about screen reader behavior when pulling in content via Ajax fetch

2011-03-26 Thread Kristaps Ancāns
Screen readers doesn't process javascript, so no AJAX requests will be made. But if you call your JS function by adding event to the link, you can also add proper page link to proper HTML page with LOGON form. As simple as that. Ar cieņu, Kristaps Ancāns Mob.: +371 29831831 E-pasts:

RE: [WSG] question about screen reader behavior when pulling in content via Ajax fetch

2011-03-26 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Screen readers doesn't process javascript, so no AJAX requests will be made. I don't think so. There are a couple of good article from Gez Lemon and Steve Faulkner about Ajax and SRs: http://juicystudio.com/article/making-ajax-work-with-screen-readers.php

Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-12 Thread Brett Patterson
I agree with everyone!!! NEVER EVER give out your information like that. Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_engineering_(computer_security)because it sounds like a Social-Engineering attack!! You are right. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Andrew Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I

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2008-11-12 Thread James Ellis
Hi Sherri and others.. This topic is outside the guidelines for the WSG list. Please feel free to continue it off list. Guidelines are available in the footer of each list message. Thanks James On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Graphics Web Designing, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again,

RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread Graphics Web Designing, LLC
I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my

Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread Luke Hoggett
Hmm, strange that they could not write software that either: a) could be installed with out requiring root access, say a restricted user account specifically for this software or b) they can't provide you with instructions how to do it yourself. Luke Graphics Web Designing, LLC wrote: I

Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread Andrew Brown
Don't share your root access with anyone. On 11-Nov-08, at 7:41 PM, Graphics Web Designing, LLC wrote: I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was

RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread Thiru Yoganathan
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graphics Web Designing, LLC Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:42 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious

Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread Anthony Ziebell
Sounds like a death-trap. Graphics Web Designing, LLC wrote: I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was called and asked for my server's root

Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread Dave Hall
On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 11:53 +1100, Luke Hoggett wrote: Hmm, strange that they could not write software that either: a) could be installed with out requiring root access, say a restricted user account specifically for this software or b) they can't provide you with instructions how to do

RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread David Fuller :: magickweb
Of Thiru Yoganathan Sent: Wednesday, 12 November 2008 11:01 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign Hi Sherri I think you have done the right thing, giving away root access means you possibly could become quite vulnerable.I think. But I am

Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread Andrew Maben
On Nov 11, 2008, at 7:41 PM, Graphics Web Designing, LLC wrote: I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access. And so you should!! Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right? You are right - if you have a business with a client, does that give him the

Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Giving anyone outside your business root access to your sever is NOT wise at all. I was previously sharing a dedicaed server with a friend that turned out to be one of the largest bot farmers in Australia, and subsequently led the server being dDOS'd. Giving these people root access leaves

RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread chris . block
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RE: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread Levell Rampono
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Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread Joe Ortenzi
As a professional I would advise your client to run a mil from this supplier. There are plenty of ways to send email marketing safely, securely, intelligently and usefully, like Campaign Monitor, mailbuild, and other conscientious, responsible mailers. There is nothing more sinister than

Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign

2008-11-11 Thread Andrew Harris
I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my server for my clients email campaign. that would be their software that sets up a mail relay for the purposes of illegal spamming? ...no, that would just be me being paranoid. You

[WSG] Question about change color of numbers in OL list

2008-11-06 Thread Антон Грахов
Hi to all, how to change color of numbers in items OL list, but do not change color of text in items? My idea with inner span: CSS code: li { color: red; } li span { color: blue; } HTML code: ol lispanItem1/span/li lispanItem2/span/li /ol Any idea, but without span?

Re: [WSG] Question about change color of numbers in OL list

2008-11-06 Thread James Farrell
Use a list-style with an image? James 2008/11/6 Антон Грахов [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi to all, how to change color of numbers in items OL list, but do not change color of text in items? My idea with inner span: CSS code: li { color: red; } li span { color: blue; } HTML code: ol

Re: [WSG] Question about change color of numbers in OL list

2008-11-06 Thread Brett Patterson
Change the OL tag color:red, and then use the span color:blue for your span. On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Антон Грахов [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi to all, how to change color of numbers in items OL list, but do not change color of text in items? My idea with inner span: CSS code: li

RE: [WSG] Question about change color of numbers in OL list

2008-11-06 Thread Christie Mason
I came across the below, sorry I don't have any notes on where, and it's worked for me. Put the color you want on the li and then use to change the number color and weight. ol { counter-reset: item } ol li { display: block } ol li:before { content: counter(item) . ; counter-increment: item;

Re: [WSG] Question about change color of numbers in OL list

2008-11-06 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Anton, My idea with inner span: CSS code: li { color: red; } li span { color: blue; } As far as I know that about as good a solution as it gets. I'm not aware of another way to get the job done. Mike *** List

Re: [WSG] Question about change color of numbers in OL list

2008-11-06 Thread Антон Грахов
Thank you, men, it's good idea! But IE don't understand there. I think what better use extra tags as span. 2008/11/6 Christie Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I came across the below, sorry I don't have any notes on where, and it's worked for me. Put the color you want on the li and then use to change

[WSG] Question about presenting numeric percentages and accessibility.

2008-10-15 Thread John Unsworth
Hi all, Just a quick question. I'm writing up a website for a simple brochure site, and the copy I'm provided with refers to something 1/3 of total or colour 2/3 of natural and so on. And it just occured to me, would Number Slash Number (ie; 1/2) cause any issue in regards accessibility, be it

Re: [WSG] Question about presenting numeric percentages and accessibility.

2008-10-15 Thread Todd Budnikas
i would use the unicode entity for fractions: http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/bylanguage/mathchart.html#fractions so, 2/3 would be pcolour #8532; of natural.../p Hi all, Just a quick question. I'm writing up a website for a simple brochure site, and the copy I'm provided

Re: [WSG] Question about presenting numeric percentages and accessibility.

2008-10-15 Thread Henrik Madsen
What about writing it out: one-third, two-thirds, half? Henrik Madsen Generator +61 8 9387 1250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.igenerator.com.au On 16/10/2008, at 10:01 AM, John Unsworth wrote: Hi all, Just a quick question. I'm writing up a website for a simple brochure site, and the copy

Re: [WSG] Question about presenting numeric percentages and accessibility.

2008-10-15 Thread Nikita The Spider The Spider
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:01 PM, John Unsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Just a quick question. I'm writing up a website for a simple brochure site, and the copy I'm provided with refers to something 1/3 of total or colour 2/3 of natural and so on. And it just occured to me, would

Re: [WSG] Question about presenting numeric percentages and accessibility.

2008-10-15 Thread Jon Warner
Could you use spans or divs (inline) to add title/other descriptive tags? I'm planning a voluntary site for a day nursery and am looking to make it perfect, as a portfolio piece but as a learning platform also. In other words I'd appreciate others more experienced opinions. Regards Jon

RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-28 Thread michael.brockington
Besides, images maps are a royal pain to maintain. -Tim Not as much of a pain as some of the faux-image-maps that I have seen done with 'pure css' or even css + JavaScript. There are tools out there that make true image-maps point-and-click simple, whereas a small change to some of the

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-28 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
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[WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Jason Pruim
Good Morning everyone! I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links. I am wondering, how would I go about convincing my client that this isn't the best way to do it? I personally think that some nice text

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Rob Enslin
Hi Jason, Why don't you turn the convincing angle up-side-down? Instead of pulling the 'accessibility' pitch focus on the performance and customizability of having a CSS-driven navigation (accessibility will follow naturally). Perhaps you could prepare two versions of a similar looking

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Schalk Neethling
Very good advice Rob. Rob Enslin wrote: Hi Jason, Why don't you turn the convincing angle up-side-down? Instead of pulling the 'accessibility' pitch focus on the performance and customizability of having a CSS-driven navigation (accessibility will follow naturally). Perhaps you could

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread info
Hi Jason, I would most certainly not allow the use of an image map. They are only useful for defining polygon or circular areas on maps (or similar) as links. They are not good for a sites primary navigation. For navigation that is consisting of an image I would create an unordered list:

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Ian Chamberlain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:37 AM Subject: [WSG] Question about accessibility Good Morning everyone! I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links. I am wondering

RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:39 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility Hi Jason, I would most certainly not allow the use

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Jason, I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links. That's not necessarily an inaccessible method, not completely anyway. Take my MapPop [1] for example. It's a list and CSS driven. works with keyboard.

RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread info
] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:39 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility Hi Jason, I would most certainly not allow the use of an image map. They are only useful for defining polygon or circular areas on maps

RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
results. Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:45 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility Hi Rick, If any client were to tell me how

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Jason Pruim
:45 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility Hi Rick, If any client were to tell me how to code their website I would probably tell them to go elsewhere. The client is more than likely going to be a pain throughout the project and then also when making payment

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Joseph Taylor
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:45 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility Hi Rick, If any client were to tell me how to code their website I would probably tell them to go elsewhere. The client is more than likely going to be a pain

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Tim Offenstein
At 6:37 AM -0400 8/27/08, Jason Pruim wrote: Good Morning everyone! I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links. I am wondering, how would I go about convincing my client that this isn't the best way to do it?

RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Ted Drake
and the image map in the header with careful use of positioning. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Taylor Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:37 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility People have

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Nancy Johnson
I dislike image maps as there are so many better ways to do navigtation. However, client side image maps are 508 compliant and accessible if coded correctly. Server side image maps are not. see this article in http://www.webaim.org/techniques/images/alt_text.php#maps Nancy On Wed, Aug 27,

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:37:06 -0400, Jason Pruim wrote: Good Morning everyone! I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links. I am wondering, how would I go about convincing my client that this isn't the best

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:37:06 -0400, Jason Pruim wrote: Good Morning everyone! I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links. I am wondering, how would I go about convincing my client that this isn't the best

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread fernando
; wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:37:06 -0400, Jason Pruim wrote: Good Morning everyone! I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Jens Nedal
Even if the text replacement should not look as satisfying as using a whole big image with image maps on it, you can still split up that image into the navigation part and use image replacement techniques where the Text is still preserved. Since most of those techniques hide the Text and put the

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[WSG] Question on YUI

2008-04-28 Thread James Jeffery
Morning all, I have never used YUI but i thought i might aswell give it a shot on my latest project, afterall the tools are there to save time. The problem is though their layouts, some of the ones i was looking at are heavy on Javascript. Call me wrong but from my knowledge relying soley on

Re: [WSG] Question on YUI

2008-04-28 Thread Joseph Taylor
YUI / Blueprint / jQuery / MooTools / Scriptaculous / Code Igniter / Cake PHP etc. The thing you need to remember with any framework - use only what you need. Does using a framework mean you need to construct a menu with javascript? Heck no. Do you need to use any of the supplied tools?

[WSG] question about max-width's behaviour

2007-11-21 Thread Tee G. Peng
I thought max-width tells the browser: This is the limit of the width you can expand, regardless how big the screen is. But my testing shows that, with a max-width of 60em, a 1680px wide monitor, when a browser is opened in full screen, with fontsize increases, the page just continued

Re: [WSG] question about max-width's behaviour

2007-11-21 Thread Adam Martin
What are you putting the max-width declaration on? a div for example? adam On Nov 22, 2007 9:17 AM, Tee G. Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought max-width tells the browser: This is the limit of the width you can expand, regardless how big the screen is. But my testing shows that, with a

Re: [WSG] question about max-width's behaviour

2007-11-21 Thread Casey Farrell
But my testing shows that, with a max-width of 60em, a 1680px wide monitor, when a browser is opened in full screen, with fontsize increases, the page just continued expanding until it reaches 1680px full screen. This is because em is a measuring unit relative to the font size of the

Re: [WSG] question about max-width's behaviour

2007-11-21 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Nov 21, 2007, at 3:30 PM, Adam Martin wrote: What are you putting the max-width declaration on? a div for example? adam I have something like this right now: #wrapper {max-width: 60em; min-width: 600px;margin:0 auto; } #container, #btm_wrap { margin:0 auto;position:relative;text-

Re: [WSG] question about max-width's behaviour

2007-11-21 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Nov 21, 2007, at 5:02 PM, Jermayn Parker wrote: good example of this is: http://www.456bereastreet.com/ It behaves the same as mine as well as the think vitamine. This is because em is a measuring unit relative to the font size of the page, so as you increase the font size, the

Re: [WSG] question about max-width's behaviour

2007-11-21 Thread Jermayn Parker
good example of this is: http://www.456bereastreet.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22/11/2007 9:53:08 am But my testing shows that, with a max-width of 60em, a 1680px wide monitor, when a browser is opened in full screen, with fontsize increases, the page just continued expanding until it

Re: [WSG] question about max-width's behaviour

2007-11-21 Thread David Laakso
I have something like this right now: #wrapper {max-width: 60em; min-width: 600px;margin:0 auto; } #container, #btm_wrap { margin:0 auto;position:relative;text-align:left;} It was this: #wrapper {width: 100%} #container, #btm_wrap { margin:0

Re: [WSG] question about max-width's behaviour

2007-11-21 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Nov 21, 2007, at 5:05 PM, David Laakso wrote: This site uses min/max width and the behaviour I see is the same as mine. Oops, forgot to post the url in my previous post. http://www.thinkvitamin.com/ (one of the best layout I even seen!) tee

Re: [WSG] question about max-width's behaviour

2007-11-21 Thread John Faulds
The purpose of max-width loses if it can't overruled the ems behavior. It's not a case of max-width overruling ems. Ems is related to font-size which is why it's used for fluid/elastic layouts - it's *supposed* to increase as you increase the text size. If you don't want your layout to

Re: [WSG] question about max-width's behaviour

2007-11-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tee G. Peng wrote: I thought max-width tells the browser: This is the limit of the width you can expand, regardless how big the screen is. But my testing shows that, with a max-width of 60em, a 1680px wide monitor, when a browser is opened in full screen, with fontsize increases, the page

Re: [WSG] question on 'logical tab order'

2007-09-23 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, See also http://www.webaim.org/techniques/keyboard/tabindex.php On Sun, September 23, 2007 4:34 am, Christian Montoya wrote: On 9/22/07, Tee G. Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still don't think my question get answered. I want to know, without using the tabindex, can one still claim to

[WSG] question on 'logical tab order'

2007-09-22 Thread Tee G. Peng
Trying to polish up my accessibility statement. First, I don't have tabindex implemented in the web form and links as I concluded it's like access keys, prune to cause confusion than helpfulness. I have 'skip to content' and 'go to top' links, with :active and :focus, and I thought linking

Re: [WSG] question on 'logical tab order'

2007-09-22 Thread Simon Moss
You shall able to navigate this site using tab features with your keyboards comfortably. Logical tab orders are taken into account to prevent confusion; :active and :focus pseudo classes are used so that links and form items are highlighted when they are 'tabbed to'. [1] Hi Tee, I would

Re: [WSG] question on 'logical tab order'

2007-09-22 Thread Tee G. Peng
Simon, thank you so much for the English lesson. Thousand times better than my high shool English teacher who declared I absolutely cannot write a sentence in English, and that I should married myself out the moment I finished my high school, because, according to her, that was the only

Re: [WSG] question on 'logical tab order'

2007-09-22 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, I'd put something like: If you have difficulty using a mouse, you can easily move among the links and form items in a logical order using the tab key. As you tab from one to the next, the current item is highlighted to help show which has focus. I think mention of logical tab order or

Re: [WSG] question on 'logical tab order'

2007-09-22 Thread Tee G. Peng
Hi Stuart, thank you so much for the suggestion. I like what you have here: As you tab from one to the next, the current item is highlighted to help show which has focus. I think mention of logical tab order or pseudo classes (even though that's what you've done) will only serve to

Re: [WSG] question on 'logical tab order'

2007-09-22 Thread Christian Montoya
On 9/22/07, Tee G. Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still don't think my question get answered. I want to know, without using the tabindex, can one still claim to have the tab order in place? Or rather, how you guys define/understand 'logical tab order'? A google search on 'logical tab

Re: [WSG] Question of CSS specificity

2006-03-06 Thread Paul Novitski
Barrie North wrote: I need some help, what is the difference between: table.module At 07:45 PM 3/5/2006, Lachlan Hunt wrote: Specificity: 0,0,1,1 To see where Lachlan is getting these numbers, read: 6.4.3 Calculating a selector's specificity

Re: [WSG] Question of CSS specificity

2006-03-05 Thread Ben Buchanan
.module will apply to any element with class=module, table.module will only apply to table elements. That's about it :) No doubt there's some deeper meaning that I've not yet heard, of course... ;) -- --- http://www.200ok.com.au/ --- The future has arrived; it's just not --- evenly distributed.

Re: [WSG] Question of CSS specificity

2006-03-05 Thread Samuel Richardson
table.module will only apply the style to a table with class=module on it. .module will apply the style regardless of what element the class is on. a.contentpagetitle:link will apply the style to any a tags with a .contentpagetitle class on them that is a link. .contentpagetitle a:link will

Re: [WSG] Question of CSS specificity

2006-03-05 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Barrie North wrote: I need some help, what is the difference between: table.module Specificity: 0,0,1,1 and .module Specificity: 0,0,1,0 Is table.module just more specific or is there more going on? The former will only select tables with the class name module. The latter will

[WSG] Question - th appearing in scope of another th

2006-02-17 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: Question - th appearing in scope of another th Hi all, I'm not sure how to word this so might make no sense at all... :) ...I've never been sure what the context of a table cell is which is following more than one th in the same scope. When a new th appears, does it append to the

RE: [WSG] Question - th appearing in scope of another th

2006-02-17 Thread Patrick Lauke
Jamie Mason When a new th appears, does it append to the previous header? Or replace/start again the context of it's scope? Is it something that is/can be affected by use of tbody's possibly? Or should this never occur and the structure of the data be rethought? I may be wrong, but I'd

RE: [SPAM] - RE: [WSG] Question - th appearing in scope of anot her th - Email found in subject

2006-02-17 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: RE: [SPAM] - RE: [WSG] Question - th appearing in scope of another th - Email found in subject Thanks Pat, What I'm asking is not how to do something, but what the header of the D1 td is represented as being in that situation - given it's in the path of 2 ths. Is A1 disregarded

Re: [WSG] Question - th appearing in scope of another th

2006-02-17 Thread Gez Lemon
On 17/02/06, Jamie Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I've never been sure what the context of a table cell is which is following more than one th in the same scope. The section on table rendering by non-visual user agents in the HTML specification [1] will shed some light. When a table cell

[WSG] Question about Standards and current browser support

2005-12-31 Thread TomG
Title: Message I understand the move and use of Web Standards, but I guess I'm not fully aware of currentbrowser support. Someonepostedareference to http://tantek.com/log/2005/12.htmland I'm aware of Tantek Celik's awesome work on CSS. I've not always had to deal with cross browser issues

Re: [WSG] Question about Standards and current browser support

2005-12-31 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
TomG wrote: I understand the move and use of Web Standards, but I guess I'm not fully aware of current browser support. Someone posted a reference to http://tantek.com/log/2005/12.html ... Here's my question. What kind of support do we get with current browsers, looking at a page like in

[WSG] Question about standard character set for Chinese sites

2005-08-03 Thread Patricia Jack
I am working on a Translation of a English webpage to Chinese I tell my client its best to go with unicode(utf-8), and he tell me this: "Yes, we are aware of using Unicode, but the problem is that a lot of Chinese web browsers do not accept unicode. The standard is GB for Simplified

[WSG] question about scope vs headers

2005-06-20 Thread Drake, Ted C.
I've got a question about using th scope=col vs. using id/headers= as mentioned in the book: Web Standards Solutions: The Markup and Style Handbook by Dan Cederholm. Does a screen reader interpret the table with scope the same way as a table with headers=? Can you combine the two or will they

Re: [WSG] question about scope vs headers

2005-06-20 Thread russ - maxdesign
Does a screen reader interpret the table with scope the same way as a table with headers=? Hi Ted, What a timely question! The short answer is that it depends on the device. In JAWS 5 and 6, for example, scope is not treated in the same way. It does not tie the header to the data cell in

Re: [WSG] Question about multiple style sheets

2005-05-18 Thread Andrew Krespanis
I was wondering whether it is better to use the import command in the main style sheet and import the other style sheets that way or to have multiple link hrefs to stylesheets or whether it makes no difference how you do it. @import will stop working at 2 levels deep (an @imported stylesheet

[WSG] Question about forms

2005-05-08 Thread LPA
Hi, To generate my forms, I use the http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/usableforms.htmlmethod. This works perfectly but the pages are not standard. I'd like to know if there is a solution to produce this kind of form but standard. Thanx Laurent

[WSG] question about CSS menu (javascript)

2005-03-16 Thread john
Hello. I'm doing a drop-down menu (a bit differently than usual), and there is only one thing I can't seem to accomplish. The menu is at http://www.drzeus.net/lab/verticalmenu.html The user should be able to click on a tab to expand it, which it currently does, but clicking it again should

RE: [WSG] question about CSS menu (javascript)

2005-03-16 Thread Mike Foskett
-Original Message- From: john [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 March 2005 10:09 To: web standards group Subject: [WSG] question about CSS menu (javascript) Hello. I'm doing a drop-down menu (a bit differently than usual), and there is only one thing

Re: [WSG] question about CSS menu (javascript)

2005-03-16 Thread Stuart Homfray
Hi John, I use a similar drop-down menu on my El Bombín site http://elbombin.stuarthomfray.co.uk/ (javascript: http://elbombin.stuarthomfray.co.uk/menutoggle.js) - as far as I can tell it works on pretty much every browser (although Opera 7 seems to require an inline style for the

[WSG] Question about vertical CSS navigation

2005-02-03 Thread Veine K Vikberg
Hello; Is there an alternative to the one I use now at http://www.iamu-edu.org , that is(/was?, can't find it anymore) listed on Russ http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/listamatic/ page? An alternative that is doing the same thing, and will function as that one, but with no extras that

Re: [WSG] Question about vertical CSS navigation

2005-02-03 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day Is there an alternative to the one I use now at http://www.iamu-edu.org , that is(/was?, can't find it anymore) listed on Russ http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/listamatic/ page? Son of Suckerfish: http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/50.php Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web

Re: [WSG] Question about use of flash in a pure css page

2005-01-27 Thread Chris Kennon
case an alternate means should be there as well or even a simple page of links. image.tiff From: Chris Kennon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:26 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Question about use of flash in a pure css page Hi, I'm exciting a burning time

[WSG] Question about use of flash in a pure css page

2005-01-24 Thread Sven-Eric Buschgens
Hello, I am currently busy/trying to make a pure css website.. Not using tables or frames. The problem that has occured for the menu we are using a flashbased menu. But because the index.php file is only one file which reloads when clicking on something the flash menu also reloads all the time.

Re: [WSG] Question about use of flash in a pure css page

2005-01-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:03:29 +0100, Sven-Eric Buschgens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem that has occured for the menu we are using a flashbased menu. Is removing flash menu altogether an option? It seems that you can do it with simple :hover and animgif or it might be possible to get

Re: [WSG] Question about use of flash in a pure css page

2005-01-24 Thread Carmelyne Thompson
One thing you may want to provide is an alternative text based menu with /or without flash plug ins enabled. I've never encountered a .swf file not refreshing along with the refresh button. :( - Carmelyne Thompson Sven-Eric Buschgens wrote: Hello, I am currently busy/trying to make a pure css

Re: [WSG] Question about use of flash in a pure css page

2005-01-24 Thread Tom Livingston
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:03:29 +0100, Sven-Eric Buschgens wrote: Hello, The thing that I want is that either flash isn't reload on a refresh or loading a new content.. of a way to use flash in this situation where it wont be reloaded all the time. Hope that anyone can help me with this..

Re: [WSG] Question about use of flash in a pure css page

2005-01-24 Thread Anthony Timberlake
Flash takes a while to load on slow connections. I wouldn't use it due to that fact. On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:45:26 -0500, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:03:29 +0100, Sven-Eric Buschgens wrote: Hello, The thing that I want is that either flash isn't reload

Re: [WSG] Question about use of flash in a pure css page

2005-01-24 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, I'm exciting a burning time, but I adore FLASH, when used correctly. In this instance spare yourself the headache and use an animated GIF solution. This will increase accessibility options and spare you time and energy. On Monday, January 24, 2005, at 07:03 AM, Sven-Eric Buschgens wrote:

Re: [WSG] Question about use of flash in a pure css page

2005-01-24 Thread csslist
his case i dont know why you would want it unless to follow links in which case an alternate means should be there as well or even a simple page of links. From: Chris Kennon [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 12:26 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] Question about us

[WSG] question - follow, index meta tag

2004-12-13 Thread Barry Cranmer
Reading the archived discussions on meta tags, I couldn't find the answer to this question, but I did see people saying the tags should appear on every page that differs in any way from other pages at a site. If I have the following on my index page, do I need to repeat it on every page at my

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