RE: my htc to remove uneeded alt text after an image loads.
On Dec 15, 2005, at 12:44 PM, Derek Featherstone wrote:
On 12/15/05, Ben Curtis wrote:
The alt text is removed from the element if the image is loaded.
...
You attach it to the img selector in your css, or a more specific
On Dec 14, 2005, at 3:10 PM, Rebecca Cox wrote:
Will this also prevent the alt text from being available in say the
JAWS screen reader, (which uses Internet Explorer), when the user
has javascript enabled?
Or is it just the tooltip behaviour not the alt content which is
removed by the
On 12/15/05, Ben Curtis wrote:
The alt text is removed from the element if the image is loaded. It's
a very simple htc that runs this code for each image after the page
loads:
if (element.complete) element.alt = '';
You attach it to the img selector in your css, or a more specific
This is interesting, but a rather pragamitc approach? Are we changing
our coding practice to suit the technological limitations of current
user agents. Is some of the power of a standards based approach the idea
that we do what is considered best practise given the current standards?
I use
On Dec 13, 2005, at 1:37 PM, Ric Jude Raftis wrote:
Alt attribute content only provides tool tips in IE because it is a
non-compliant browser. They do not display in other browsers. The
title attribute however, does display in Firefox, but not sure
about Opera et al.
On my tests,
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so I wrote
an htc called Alt Destroyer
rant comment=please correct me if I'm wrong about anything
Why should Text mode browsers benefit from the ALT property when
Graphical agents can't?
I understand that this is planned to change in future specifications but
Why does the IMG element have an alt property? why not define a
What about the title attribute?
img src=mygif.gif title=label alt=label /
a href=whatever.htm title=some label hereimg src=mygif.gif
alt=label //a
BTW. does anyone know a good way of stylistically adding labels to
images? At the moment i'm using:
p class=image title=!label!
img
On 12/13/05, Kim Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about the title attribute?
img src=mygif.gif title=label alt=label /
a href=whatever.htm title=some label hereimg src=mygif.gif
alt=label //a
Titles aren't used by anything... so they are useless.
BTW. does anyone know a good way
Stephen Stagg wrote:
snip
BTW. does anyone know a good way of stylistically adding labels to
images? At the moment i'm using:
p class=image title=!label!
img src=!URI! alt=!label!/span class=label!label!/span
/p
is this right? what do you suggest?
/snip
I'd code it this way:
div id=!id!
Hi Christian,
Titles aren't used by anything... so they are useless.
Would you care to explain???
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Randall Potter wrote:
I'd code it this way: div id=!id! class=!class! img
src=!URI! alt= / span class=caption!caption!/span /div
I know that some would consider this solution to suffer from
divitis but, an image and a caption do not fit my description of a
paragraph.
The following W3C
On 12/13/05, Kim Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Christian,
Titles aren't used by anything... so they are useless.
Would you care to explain???
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* Users that rely upon the keyboard to access web content cannot
access the TITLE text.
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Subject: [WSG] positive-discrimination === not positive and IMG properties
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Why should Text mode browsers benefit from the ALT property when Graphical
Hi Christian,
From: http://www.sf.id.au/WE05/indexa.html
* Users that rely upon the keyboard to access web content cannot
access the TITLE text.
* Some users of screen magnifiers will not be able to read the TITLE text.
* Most users of screen reader software will not be aware of the
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Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] positive-discrimination === not positive and IMG
properties
Hi Christian,
From: http://www.sf.id.au/WE05/indexa.html
* Users that rely upon the keyboard to access
On Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:31 PM Nathan wrote:
I'd just like to point out that the alt text does benefit
everyone in situations like providing tooltip content
You mean everyone who uses Internet Explorer. That's the only browser
that treats alt attributes as a tool tip. Modern browsers,
On Dec 13, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Jonathan Bloy wrote:
You mean everyone who uses Internet Explorer. That's the only browser
that treats alt attributes as a tool tip. Modern browsers, Firefox,
Opera, Safari, etc. correctly only display the alt attribute if the
image is not available.
If I am
I'm so happy this web stuff is so straight forward and make perfect
sense :)
To add -
If you add a title to a link, some versions of JAWS will read only the
title and not the actual link text. It's a maze :-)
Al Sparber
PVII
http://www.projectseven.com
Designing with CSS is sometimes like
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