Hello,
Do spiders crawl links in external javascript files, like the ones found in
some dhtml menus?
-kvnmcwebn
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On Mon, 16 May 2005 01:58:23 +0100, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Do spiders crawl links in external javascript files, like the ones found
in some dhtml menus?
No.
You have to use good, accessible menu that uses links in HTML.
See son of suckerfish dropdowns.
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would those suckerfish dropdowns interfere with divs below them, ie push
them down or anything.
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On Mon, 16 May 2005 02:59:32 +0100, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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would those suckerfish dropdowns interfere with divs below them, ie push
them down or anything.
No.
Typical DHTML menus are HTML+CSS created and controlled by JS.
Suckerfish dropdowns is HTML+CSS created by HTML and
Kornel Lesinski wrote:
You have to use good, accessible menu that uses links in HTML.
See son of suckerfish dropdowns.
I'm not sure if CSS menus are really accessible. IMHO, they lack a
timer, browser support is weak and most of them do not allow keyboard
navigation. On top of that, if not well
I guess theres pros and cons to both methods, Im leaning towards a dhtml
menu that supports ns and ie 4+. but the links are in an external file,
ugghh, I dont think it would degrade well but i suppose it woulnd have to
with its browser support.
I know what kornel is emphasizing is important as
Kvnmcwebn wrote:
heres the menu
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/hvmenu/horizon.htm
Nice, but totally inaccessible without JS support.
Check www.projectseven.com I believe most of their menus are fully
accessible. It is important that without client script, the navigation fully
Kvnmcwebn wrote:
heres the menu
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/hvmenu/horizon.htm
This link is to show you that I'm not biased when I say you should favor a
DHTML solution:
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/dropdown/demo.asp
;-)
Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com
On Mon, 16 May 2005 16:11:26 +0100, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You have to use good, accessible menu that uses links in HTML.
See son of suckerfish dropdowns.
I'm not sure if CSS menus are really accessible. IMHO, they lack a
timer, browser support is weak and most of them do not
On Mon, 16 May 2005 04:01:09 +0100, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I guess theres pros and cons to both methods, Im leaning towards a dhtml
menu that supports ns and ie 4+.
I'd avoid any non-trivial script that supports 4.x browsers.
Scripts designed for those browsers often rely on browser
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On Mon, 16 May 2005 16:11:26 +0100, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You have to use good, accessible menu that uses links
Look im not 100% comfortable with the
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex1/hvmenu/horizon.htm
Unfortunately i've nearly run out of time on this project and must stick
with what ive allready done.
Unless you think im making a HUGE mistake by using this dhtml menu from, im
going to leave it.
Kornel Lesinski wrote:
I'm not sure if CSS menus are really accessible. IMHO, they lack a
timer, browser support is weak and most of them do not allow
keyboard navigation.
That's the same problem most JS menus have as well.
That may be true for the bad ones, but not for quality JS menus.
And
Kvnmcwebn wrote:
Unless you think im making a HUGE mistake by using this dhtml menu
from, im going to leave it.
IMHO, it is a HUGE mistake
I mean what are the percentages of users with scripting disabled-is it
really going to come back and haunt me?
Did you check the source code?
It is not
On Mon, 16 May 2005 05:06:43 +0100, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Unless you think im making a HUGE mistake by using this dhtml menu from,
im going to leave it.
How huge mistake is having website seen by Google as Your browser does
not support script message?
I mean what are the
Ongoing dialogue ...
On Mon, 16 May 2005 05:06:43 +0100, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Unless you think im making a HUGE mistake by using this dhtml
menu from,
im going to leave it.
How huge mistake is having website seen by Google as Your browser does
not support script message?
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
Kornel Lesinski wrote:
That's the same problem most JS menus have as well.
That may be true for the bad ones, but not for quality JS menus.
And I believe CSS offers no possibility re: a timer. There are
workarounds, but they bring other issues.
This is besides the point of
OK after all these comments im sold.
But suckerfish dropdowns is DHTML solution that degrades nicely.
You can get best of both worlds - extend CSS menu to have features
of best JS menu.
I'd avoid any non-trivial script that supports 4.x browsers.
Kvnmcwebn wrote:
The only drawback(for me) is that the text size cant be fixed as in
the js method i was using earlier.
Actually, that should be one more reason to stay away from that menu ;-)
But check that menu in a different browser than IE, you'll see that
text-size can always be
Robin Berjon wrote:
SMIL has simple ways of handling this sort of thing
including with timers for menu deactivation that degrade very easily to
browser that don't support it (and could probably have a script fallback
for applicable cases).
To be honest, I think it's going a bit too far dragging
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Robin Berjon wrote:
SMIL has simple ways of handling this sort of thing
including with timers for menu deactivation that degrade very easily
to browser that don't support it (and could probably have a script
fallback for applicable cases).
To be honest, I think it's
Designing Optimizing Web Sites with Accessibility, Search Engines
Usability in Mind
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