Re: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org

2005-10-12 Thread Nick Lo
Hi Graham, Producing a .doc may seem incongruous, but it is just one of around 150 documents covering all Telstra's online standards including wap, platform, styleguides information architecture etc. Yes, apologies for even alluding to that kind of hackneyed response. You now have me

RE: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org

2005-10-11 Thread Graham Cook
UA Oz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Featherstone Sent: Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:56 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org On 10/11/05, Terrence Wood wrote: Agreed, you are absolutely correct. Doh

Re: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org

2005-10-11 Thread Nick Lo
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Featherstone Sent: Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:56 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org On 10/11/05, Terrence Wood wrote: Agreed, you are absolutely correct. Doh! I didn't acutally check

RE: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org

2005-10-11 Thread Graham Cook
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Lo Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2005 2:59 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org I first wanted to say thanks to Derek and Graham for providing all this really great info. Not that I'm fussed

Re: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org

2005-10-11 Thread Derek Featherstone
On 10/12/05, Nick Lo wrote: I did want to comment that the form error in the label suggestions Derek gave have really got me thinking about how my CMS returns users to forms and alerts them. Hi Nick, That's good - that was my intent! Actually, that was my intent with most of what is already

[WSG] simplyaccessible.org

2005-10-10 Thread Vicki Berry
Russ wrote: Derek Featherstone has posted his accessibility presentation from WE05 at a new site - Simply Accessible http://simplyaccessible.org/ I've just gotta say... this is fantastic. As someone to whom the podcasts are pretty much inaccessible (because I am stuck with dial-up and also I

Re: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org

2005-10-10 Thread Terrence Wood
Vicki Berry said: I've just gotta say... this is fantastic. Derek, can you update your examoples to use fieldsets instead of divs to group the form controls together? kind regards Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org

2005-10-10 Thread Derek Featherstone
On 10/11/05, Terrence Wood wrote: Derek, can you update your examoples to use fieldsets instead of divs to group the form controls together? I do use fieldsets to group form controls together but in most cases, there is one fieldset around all the items in one form - the divs are there to

Re: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org

2005-10-10 Thread Terrence Wood
Derek Featherstone said: the divs are there to provide additional style hooks[...] to create rows without using tables. You have not misinterpeted what I was saying, sorry my email is a little terse today.I would've have emailed you off-list but couldn't find your email anywhere (within my 3

RE: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org

2005-10-10 Thread Drake, Ted C.
to a fieldset and float the fieldsets to create a columnar form. Ted www.tdrake.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terrence Wood Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:46 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org

RE: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org

2005-10-10 Thread Terrence Wood
Drake, Ted C. said: A fieldset should contain a set of similar inputs[...] It would defeat the coordinating purpose to use a fieldset randomly to create rows or columns. Agreed, you are absolutely correct. Doh! I didn't acutally check the source code, no wonder my earlier post was confusing.

Re: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org

2005-10-10 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Terrence Wood wrote: If anyone *is* interested in replicating Dereks layout without the extra div's try this: label for=unameUsername emmust not contain spaces/em input id=uname type=text name=uname value= / /label I'd prefer to go with explicit labeling rather than implicit labeling, but

RE: [WSG] simplyaccessible.org

2005-10-10 Thread Derek Featherstone
On 10/11/05, Terrence Wood wrote: Agreed, you are absolutely correct. Doh! I didn't acutally check the source code, no wonder my earlier post was confusing. Sorry Derek. No worries... If anyone *is* interested in replicating Dereks layout without the extra div's try this: snip / for what