Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Mordechai Peller
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: The reason I cannot simply put both icons into a tags is that they have to be separated by more than just space for accessibility reasons. So this: a href=/edit title=Editimg src=edit.png alt=Edit //a a href=/delete title=Deleteimg src=delete.png

RE: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Josh Rose
. -Original Message- From: Terrence Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 20 June 2005 7:14 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Cc: Terrence Wood Subject: Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists I would argue that putting edit delete in front of every list item is more of a barrier

Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Ben Curtis
Here the problem though: I want to display a couple of icons infront of each of the folders (Edit, Delete, ...). So my list actually looks like this: - Edit Delete Folder One - Edit Delete Subfolder One - Edit Delete Subfolder Two - Edit Delete Folder Two - Edit Delete Folder Three

Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Terrence Wood
There are benefits for all users stemming from Fitt's law (increased acquirable targets) and Hick's law (reduced complexity) using a form for file/folder lists. I have a file browser type example at http://dev.funkive.com/tests/jstest.php which works in FF and Safari (yet to be stressed

RE: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
-Original Message- From: Ben Curtis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 21 June 2005 2:47 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists Here the problem though: I want to display a couple of icons infront of each of the folders (Edit

RE: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
-Original Message- From: Josh Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 20 June 2005 9:48 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Clash of nested lists I'm not sure what the page is for, but if you had a list of say 25 items, and I only wanted 10 of them, I'd need

Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-20 Thread Terrence Wood
: RE: [WSG] Clash of nested lists I'm not sure what the page is for, but if you had a list of say 25 items, and I only wanted 10 of them, I'd need to follow 15 links, each time waiting for the new page to load, and personally I wouldn't bother. I think making it a form would actually make it more

Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-19 Thread Terrence Wood
I would argue that putting edit delete in front of every list item is more of a barrier to accessibility than the white space issue. The complexity of your interface increases by an order of magnitude: In a list of 25 items where I want the last item means I have to listen (and choose

RE: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-19 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
-Original Message- From: Terrence Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 20 June 2005 7:14 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Cc: Terrence Wood Subject: Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists I would argue that putting edit delete in front of every list item is more of a barrier

Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-18 Thread Joshua Street
This strikes me as a tad list-obsessive - what would be wrong with simply inserting a href=/edit title=Editimg src=edit.png alt=Edit //a and similarly for Delete? AFAIK that shouldn't pose any significant barriers to accessibility...? On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 10:08 +1000, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive

RE: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-18 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
One - Edit Delete Subfolder Two - Edit Delete Folder Two - Edit Delete Folder Three -Original Message- From: Joshua Street [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 19 June 2005 11:41 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists This strikes me

RE: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-18 Thread Joshua Street
On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 12:01 +1000, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: Yeah, I have got the feeling it is list-obsessive and I really hope there is a better way out of it. The reason I cannot simply put both icons into a tags is that they have to be separated by more than just space for

Re: [WSG] Clash of nested lists

2005-06-18 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: The reason I cannot simply put both icons into a tags is that they have to be separated by more than just space for accessibility reasons. I would argue, though, that this checkpoint has purely technical reasons, and that the situation in which