RE: [WSG] Which editors do you guys recommend?

2004-06-06 Thread Michael Kear
Title: [WSG] Which editors do you guys recommend? For those that use notepad and type everything in by hand, theres a far better answer for you Ultraedit (ultraedit.com). It is a simple text editor, but it has syntax highlighting, can handle files as big as your whole hard drive, can

Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-06 Thread Tony Crockford
At 05:07 on Sunday, 06 Jun 2004, helmut wrote: What CSS/XHTML/HTML editors do you guys use for hand coding and testing? Topstyle Pro 3.1 is my choice. Simply the best windows application for handcoding html / CSS includes most language syntax coloring and mapping for local live previews via

RE: [WSG] Which editors do you guys recommend?

2004-06-06 Thread Kym Kovan
Hi Mike, You just saved me a heap of typing :-) Its Ditto to for me, plus a bit: ULtraEdit has to be one of the best text editors about DreamWeaver when doing designy type stuff HomeSite+ for pounding out code (my main task in life g) TopStyle for the CSS And responding to Dante's comment,

Re: [WSG] Vertical Son of Suckerfish - Practical implementation

2004-06-06 Thread Hugh Todd
Neerav, Doesn't look good in Safari 1.0, Neerav. (Submenus appear at the top of the viewport.) Fine in Safari 1.2. No submenus in IE 5.2.3 Mac. Is this acceptable to your client? -Hugh Todd Vertical Son of Suckerfish - Practical implementation at http://www.rci.com.au What a difference it

RE: [WSG] Which editors do you guys recommend?

2004-06-06 Thread Michael Kear
G'day Kym, Anything to help a fellow traveller. Now if only I could find some contract work to employ my skills gainfully. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [WSG] Centering a liquid grid of image thumbs and captions

2004-06-06 Thread Hugh Todd
Bert, Don't know what constitutes 'wasting money' for you, but to me it makes sense to buy a system with a commitment to open standards (and quite a lot of open source as well) rather than one which seems to have as its goal the sabotaging of open standards for the purpose of ensuring that the

Re: [WSG] Which *free* editors do you guys recommend?

2004-06-06 Thread Tony Crockford
At 08:35 on Sunday, 06 Jun 2004, Sean M. Hall AKA Dante wrote: Self explanatory, see subject. As I said before: syntax highlighting and no automatic insertion. http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html small footprint. code folding loads of syntax highlighting hth

Re: [WSG] Which *free* editors do you guys recommend?

2004-06-06 Thread Cristhian Palma
Sean M. Hall AKA Dante wrote: Self explanatory, see subject. As I said before: syntax highlighting and no automatic insertion. HTML-Kit. -- Cristhian Palma [EMAIL PROTECTED] +593.9.976 1992 * The discussion list for

RE: [Spam] Re: [WSG] Centering a liquid grid of image thumbs and captions

2004-06-06 Thread Mike Pepper
7 sinz, If you noticed, I wasn't using tables http://www.english-sofas.co.uk/els_new/value_leather_sofas_0.htm. The challenge was to incorporate fluid and centred linear lists. The presented solution doesn't actually satisfy the requirement but does so for the client (who loved the site then

RE: [WSG] Centering a liquid grid of image thumbs and captions

2004-06-06 Thread Mike Pepper
Been there, Nick -- I am looking for a standard structure, a list (ul, li ...) which holds images and associated captions centred in a fluid container. e.g. - -- [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] ... - -- [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] ... - -- [img] [img] [img] - That's what we

RE: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-06 Thread Mike Pepper
John, Without a doubt, TopStyle Pro 3.1 is the best around http://www.bradsoft.com/topstyle/index.asp. A bold statement but I've used a few and have settled on Nick's Delphi-written combined editor for about 15 months. It's a delight to use and extremely flexible, configuration-wise. Mike Pepper

Re: [WSG] Which editors do you guys recommend?

2004-06-06 Thread afdesign
Recently Paul Scrivens (Whitespace) conducted a Non-scientific poll on HTML/CSS Editors which attracted over 120 responses and so probably constitutes one of the more compresnhensive discussions on this topic: http://www.9rules.com/whitespace/our_thoughts/nonscientific_poll_htmlcss_editors.php

Re: [WSG] Vertical Son of Suckerfish - Practical implementation

2004-06-06 Thread Neerav
Hugh Any choice has its +'s and -'s, as they say What you lose on the swings, you gain on the roundabouts. In this case: Swings * I lose the wide cross browser functionality of AJMenu http://navsurf.com/menus/browsers.asp * In a few older browser versions, or browsers that arent very popular

Re: [WSG] Centering a liquid grid of image thumbs and captions

2004-06-06 Thread Nick Gleitzman
Wow. I (and no doubt every other Mac user in the world) will be shocked and deeply perturbed to discover that we've wasted our money. I wonder if Apple give refunds? Let me suggest that the direction this thread is taking should stop right here - it's gonna get off-topic (ie Mac v PC) really

Re: [WSG] Centering a liquid grid of image thumbs and captions

2004-06-06 Thread Michal Willemot
I'm looking for something similar, wondering what a good html syntax could be for this. i need a title, image and a description: -- Title Title2 Title3-- -- [img] descrip [img] descr [img] another -- -- tion of thislong -- -- image

Re: [WSG] Centering a liquid grid of image thumbs and captions

2004-06-06 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 6/6/04 2:42 AM Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Damn. No self contol. Sorry. I'm off for a Bex and a good lie down. When in doubt, delete them. I do. Rick Faaberg * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Centering a liquid grid of image thumbs and captions

2004-06-06 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
- Original Message - From: Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Centering a liquid grid of image thumbs and captions I have a 400MHz iMac you can have for $300 - that's less than a software upgrade. I'll even

Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-06 Thread Mordechai Peller
Without question, the best editor out there (at least until the next version come out--which should be soon) is TopStyle 3.10. Full support for XHTML 1.1 (a default template is missing, but can be added in under a minute), CSS-2, and Ruby. It has code highlighting for several scripting

Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-06 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 6/6/04 3:39 AM Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Ruby What is Ruby? TIA Rick Faaberg * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

Re: [WSG] Vertical Son of Suckerfish - Practical implementation

2004-06-06 Thread Neerav
Nick thats a top idea, have done as you suggest, adding links to the top level parts of the menu eg: Products. Im sure you know that the probability of IE X (the next version) being released as part of the next Windows Operating System is 100%, whereas the chance of M'soft releasing a new IE

Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-06 Thread Charles \grey wolf\ Banas
helmut wrote: What CSS/XHTML/HTML editors do you guys use for hand coding and testing? vim. (and occasionally dreamweaver.) no. really. http://www.vim.org * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

RE: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use? [Please reply to the poster that asked now]

2004-06-06 Thread Peter Firminger
Is Google that hard to use? http://www.google.com.au/search?q=ruby+editor Can we send these directly to the person that requested it please and that person can post the suggestions. Also, just give positives. If you don't like 'product-x', then don't suggest it. Trashing products on-list is not

Re: [WSG] Vertical Son of Suckerfish - Practical implementation

2004-06-06 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On Sunday, June 6, 2004, at 08:59 PM, Neerav wrote: Nick thats a top idea, have done as you suggest, adding links to the top level parts of the menu eg: Products. You're welcome. Im sure you know that the probability of IE X (the next version) being released as part of the next Windows

Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use? -OT

2004-06-06 Thread Charles \grey wolf\ Banas
Rick Faaberg wrote: On 6/6/04 3:39 AM Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Ruby What is Ruby? http://www.ruby-lang.org it's an object-oriented scripting language. very powerful language, and pushed object-oriented programming to its limit. but this is now off-topic... TIA Rick

Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-06 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
Subject: Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use? hmm Topstyle Pro 3.10 - CSS Dreamweaver MX 2004 7.01 - XHTML/PHP Browsers Mozilla 1.7 RC1 IE 6 SP1 Opera 7.50 http://www.danvine.com/icapture/ Safari testing... http://www.danvine.com/iecapture/ IE 6/5.5/5/4, Firefox Opera

Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-06 Thread Razvan Pop
I use jEdit. Has FTP and SFTP support. Lots and lots of plugins to install. helmut wrote: What CSS/XHTML/HTML editors do you guys use for hand coding and testing? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-06 Thread Mordechai Peller
Rick Faaberg wrote: What is Ruby? Contrary to what others seem to have thought, I meant the Ruby Annotation specification from the W3C: http://www.w3.org/TR/ruby/ I mentioned Ruby support not because I think it's that useful in most instances, but rather what having the support says

Re: [WSG] Which *free* editors do you guys recommend?

2004-06-06 Thread noa
Sean M. Hall AKA Dante wrote: Self explanatory, see subject. As I said before: syntax highlighting and no automatic insertion. EditPlus http://editplus.com/ isn't free, as such, but it has an unlimited unrestricted trial mode, and better syntax highlighting. Also, it has a built in FTP

Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-06 Thread Simon Jessey
Original Message - From: "helmut" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use? What CSS/XHTML/HTML editors do you guys use for hand coding and testing? I now use UltraEdit-32. Simon Jessey--mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]web :

[WSG] Ruby - where to learn more and see examples of its uses

2004-06-06 Thread theGrafixGuy
Been seeing a lot mentioned about RUBY. Can anyone point out some resources for information on this besides W3C? W3C is great for a detailed technical overview but seeing realistic real world examples and how it is used is more informative from a designers standpoint. Thanks.

RE: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-06 Thread Amit Karmakar
Clean code = HomeSite 5.5! Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benjamin Sent: Monday, 7 June 2004 1:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use? Homesite 5.5

Re: [WSG] Centering a liquid grid of image thumbs and captions

2004-06-06 Thread Kristof Neirynck
Nick Gleitzman wrote: Thanks again, Kristof. I appreciate the time you've put into this; I have to get back to work too. I'm not sure that even nesting tables would give the liquid layout; I meant to reply on this: -- [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] ... - -- [img] [img] [img] [img] [img] ... - --

[WSG] Hi All

2004-06-06 Thread Nicola Rubeo
This is my first post here... so I want to say hi all and to quickly present myself: I'm Nicola... from Italy. I'm a web designer with a great passion for this job and now devoted to web standards too. I'm redesigning our company's web site, here is a link to check the new layout (if you

Re: [WSG] Which *free* editors do you guys recommend?

2004-06-06 Thread Kristof Neirynck
noa wrote: Sean M. Hall AKA Dante wrote: As I said before: syntax highlighting and no automatic insertion. EditPlus http://editplus.com/ isn't free, as such, but it has an unlimited unrestricted trial mode, and better syntax highlighting. Also, it has a built in FTP browser. +1 Worth 36* its

RE: [WSG] Hi All

2004-06-06 Thread Iain Gardiner
Title: Message Ciao belo, And that's all your getting because I don't know any Italian. :) That's a nice layout. Clean and uses colours that lead the eye but don't drag it. Only thing I can see that I might change is purely subjective and it has to do with the black border at the very

Re: [WSG] Which editors do you guys recommend?

2004-06-06 Thread RC Pierce
Missing from the list is Context Programmers Editor. http://www.fixedsys.com/context/ With my as yet limited skill set, I still treat it pretty much like Notepad, but it has much, much more to it than just text editing. Context provides syntax highlighting for a great many programming and

Re: [WSG] Linearizing Tables - Is there a standard?

2004-06-06 Thread RC Pierce
Thanks for that, Vlad. I'm still a long way off being able to make heads or tails of the xsl. I can follow what is going on, though. Perhaps a little explanation would help me better understand what to expect from screenreader.xsl (private mail is okay, since this may be not be considered a

Re: [WSG] Hi All

2004-06-06 Thread Cristhian Palma
Iain Gardiner wrote: Oh, and replacing the code-heavy javascript rollover effects with a more lightweight option like Pixy's (http://wellstyled.com/css-nopreload-rollovers.html) might be an option you wish to consider. As Iain suggested, it would be good to change the heavy navigation menu

Re: [WSG] Ruby - where to learn more and see examples of its uses

2004-06-06 Thread afdesign
From my bookmarks, these may help... http://www.loudthinking.com/arc/000199.html http://pine.fm/LearnToProgram/ http://poignantguide.net/ruby/ http://www.rubyonrails.org/show/HomePage Cheers dez theGrafixGuy wrote: Been seeing a lot mentioned about RUBY. Can anyone point out some resources for

RE: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-06 Thread Hill, Tim
http://tsware.net/ TSW Web Coder, pretty cool app. Has great CSS support and can make it do automatic xhtml syntax etc. and its free, (need valid email though, but I haven't received any spam from it) Tim Hill Computer Associates Graphic Artist tel: +612 9937 0792 fax: +612 9937 0546 [EMAIL

RE: [WSG] What to do?

2004-06-06 Thread Mike Pepper
Title: [WSG] What to do? Dante, Best by example: rebuild without tables and say, Hey, this is how easy it is, would you like me to do the rest for you? As it's a non-profit org, they will likely be concerned about bandwidth and if, as you say, the site proves popular, the bandwidth will go

RE: [WSG] What to do?

2004-06-06 Thread Sean M. Hall AKA Dante
Title: RE: [WSG] What to do? Best by Example... That's what I was going to do (in fact, I came really close, but a certain browser interfered and I gave up). Perhaps I'll try when I come back from Ireland. He'll have to pay me in Sunflower Seeds (my latest addiction) since I'm under

Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-06 Thread James Ellis
Hello all I have started a new category on the WSG site call Development and design tools. I think at this point it would be a good idea for everyone to login and start listing all these programs on the WSG website so that we can refer to these in the future, without having to navigate thru a

Re: [WSG] Site breaking in Mozilla

2004-06-06 Thread Ward and Andrea Scott
Thanks to Jeff and Kay, I have been able to clean up the site and code quite a bit. Unfortunately, there are a couple of things that I cannot seem to get a grasp on conceptually: 1. I don't understand why Mozilla is dropping the header down about 20px. I don't have either padding or margins in

Re: [WSG] Site breaking in Mozilla

2004-06-06 Thread dean burge
Hi Ward. Ward and Andrea Scott wrote: 1. I don't understand why Mozilla is dropping the header down about 20px. I don't have either padding or margins in either the container or the #top header. For this one, try setting padding /or margins of the h1 element to zero. I just experienced the same

RE: [WSG] Site breaking in Mozilla

2004-06-06 Thread Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st
Id recommend against using Image replacement in this instance as the only time itll be semantically correct to have the header as the H1 element would be the homepage of the site. e.g. on the news page - h2News Page - Style 2/h2 really should be:h1News Page - Style 2/h1 So Id just

[WSG] Help with IE 6

2004-06-06 Thread Amit Karmakar
People, I did this site over the last weekend.Still needs more work though. The siteseems to be working fine in most browsers except IE6. Bloody IE Any help to get it working in IE v6/Win would be appreciated. People on macs would you mind giving me your feedback too. Thanks. The

[WSG] Styling list markers?

2004-06-06 Thread Sam Walker
How would you go about selecting the markers on an ordered list to style them? I want to style the 1,2,3,4 markers (or in this case, I. II. III. IV. , as i have the style set to upper-roman) with things such as size and color, but I can't figure out how to select just the markers the closest

RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6

2004-06-06 Thread Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st
This is your problem:#navcontainer li a{display: block;padding: 5px 5px 5px 0.5em;border-left: 10px solid #326263;border-right: 10px solid #92C6C7;background-color: #498485;color: #EDF7F8;text-decoration: none;width: 100%; - you dont need this} Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st