[WSG] Sydney WSG meeting

2004-08-06 Thread russ - maxdesign
Thanks to all those who attended last nights Sydney WSG. We had 38 people, so it was another big night. There were three topics covered. 1. WE04 update John Allsopp talked about the upcoming Sydney Web Essentials conference (http://we04.com). One exciting addition to the program will be the Web

[WSG] Adopting Web Standards - Free briefing for Education and Government

2004-08-06 Thread russ - maxdesign
Adopting Web Standards Free briefing for Education and Government Government and education are at the forefront of the adoption of web standards. To aid in this process, Web Essentials is hosting this free briefing, featuring the W3Cs Dean Jackson, and highly respected web accessibility expert

RE: [WSG] Horizontal List in Mac IE

2004-08-06 Thread JW
Thanks James. I guess you are having the problem where IE Mac doesn't float your list elements properly and they all go to 100% width down the page? That was the bug I was having and now it is fix thanks to you :) With Regards - Jaime -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] Are wireframes necessary when using web standards?

2004-08-06 Thread Andy Budd
Ian Fenn wrote: My client wanted something to show internal stakeholders so I started doing a few wireframes but suddenly wondered, Why am I doing this? Why don't I just build the website using web standards? A day later I finished a working prototype of the website in question. The client is

[WSG] Thanks Ben

2004-08-06 Thread Giles Clark
Ben, Sorry no direct email, but reply much appreciated. Will bugger off and look at floating. Giles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ben Bishop Sent: 06 August 2004 03:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Problem with IE 5 Hi Giles,

Re: [WSG] can you see why my suckerfish menu is off line in ie/firefox

2004-08-06 Thread Ben Bishop
Adam, i have 2 css problems with my suckerfish implementation; 2. however in both firefox and IE the sub menu sits at the top of the main UL instead of the bottom. I can fix this with a top: 191px; property on To fix the vertical position issue, loose the #nav a float. (the #nav li float is

Re: [WSG] The F-word (frames that is)

2004-08-06 Thread Brian Foy
Ted Drake wrote: I'm putting together our new web site css-layout. There are a few web sites that put our site into their frameset. If they take my lovely css-formatted page and stick it in their ugly, poorly styled web page built with nasty frames... Could their stylesheet over-ride my style

Re: [WSG] Adopting Web Standards - Free briefing for Education and Government

2004-08-06 Thread Brian Foy
Sounds great I can see this being very beneficial, especially if done on a wide scale. In the spirit of spreading the knowledge and advocating standards in Gov't, it would be excellent if once you are done, you could post all of your slides/notes on the net. If you can go the extra mile and get us

RE: [WSG] Are wireframes necessary when using web standards?

2004-08-06 Thread Nancy Johnson
Showing my ignorance: Don't wireframes show flow only? Like the map view in Dreamweaver? Or is it an actual possible design one creates often in Photoshop, though this article indicated Freehand. Nancy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

[WSG] HTML CSS references

2004-08-06 Thread Justin French
Hi all, For a few years now, I've been using a combination of Mozilla and a couple of Sidebar tabs (HTML 4.01 and CSS2) for referencing the standards, which has been a great combo, but I think it's time to move on. 1. It's the only reason I have Mozilla open all day 2. It's the only reason I

[WSG] layout problem

2004-08-06 Thread Barry Cranmer
http://orderlyspaces.com/fri86.html orderlyspaces.com/fri86.css The page displays as I would like it to in IE 5.2 on my Mac (G4 running OS X 10.2.8), but does not work properly in Safari, Firefox, Opera or AOL's. browser on Mac. The problem is that the content, beginning with the

RE: [WSG] HTML CSS references

2004-08-06 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day What I need to use Firefox or Safari exclusively is a replacement for the Mozilla sidebar references for (X)HTML and CSS, I guess in the form of a website, or downloadable reference to be used in a browser. Have a look at www.zvon.org - they have downloadable references for CSS1/2,

RE: [WSG] HTML CSS references

2004-08-06 Thread Chatham, Will
What I need to use Firefox or Safari exclusively is a replacement for the Mozilla sidebar references for (X)HTML and CSS, I guess in the form of a website, or downloadable reference to be used in a browser. You could copy paste the info from your Mozilla sidebar into a web page you

Re: [WSG] HTML CSS references

2004-08-06 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
If you're using FF with the webdev extension, you can quickly (ok, relatively quickly) go to Miscellaneous W3C Documents for reference. At least that's what I end up doing most of the time... Patrick -- _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned.

RE: [WSG] Are wireframes necessary when using web standards?

2004-08-06 Thread Beau Lebens
Nancy, Wireframe more often is used to refer to outlined page designs. I.e. a very rough idea of what a page design will look like, normally just black outline boxes, no colour, no real text, no nothing :) They are a way to start visualising the design of a page and how all the elements will fit

Re: [WSG] Are wireframes necessary when using web standards?

2004-08-06 Thread Wasabi
Hi, Perhaps wireframes make more sense if you think of them as blueprints, or perhaps a sketch in the design process. I often use pencil sketches complete with color void of content when laying out a new site. I also use this approach with colored div's with just a text description of intended

Re: [WSG] HTML CSS references

2004-08-06 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
http://www.forumimages.com/ref/html/index.php heres one :D ___ Cameron W (aka t94xr) http://www.t94xr.net.nz/ XHTML CSS Compliant. Taupo, NZ. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web

Re: [WSG] HTML CSS references

2004-08-06 Thread Neerav
Westciv's Complete CSS Guide on CD is pretty useful, I believe its inexpensive (I got if for free as a door prize from a web essentials promo night) -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings

Re: [WSG] HTML CSS references

2004-08-06 Thread John Allsopp
Hi, Westciv's Complete CSS Guide on CD is pretty useful, I believe its inexpensive (I got if for free as a door prize from a web essentials promo night) it's also free online here http://www.westciv.com/style_master/house/index.html along with many tutorials, articles, compatibility guides, and

Re: [WSG] layout problem

2004-08-06 Thread Nick Gleitzman
Using IE5 as your default browser for development is going to give you these headaches every time. Build to a Standards-compliant browser - Firefox is probably best if you're on a Mac - and *then* use the hacks you need for IE5, but only if you *really* need to. Good css shouldn't require