Re: [WSG] you've been framed!

2005-03-25 Thread designer
Thanks Thierry, Your article on frames is the best I've read! An excellent resource, now bookmarked! To the other guys who responded: I've had a quick play with overflow : auto, but couldn't seem to avoid two RH scrollbars! I'm going to look (properly) over Easter . . . Thanks, Bob

Re: [WSG] Firefox bug on mouse scrolling

2005-03-25 Thread designer
Thanks Peter, A jpg of what I'm seeing can be found at: http://www.marscovista.fsnet.co.uk/firefox.jpg (Win XP pro (not SP2) - Matrox card and up to date driver :- ) Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: Peter J. Farrell [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] Floated right div gets pushed below the left

2005-03-25 Thread Vaska . WSG
Nice. We're currently in a prototype stage so I won't really think about the final solution until next week (but I'm downloading your markups right now). Thanks very much, vaska On Mar 25, 2005, at 12:28 AM, Andrew Hawthorne wrote: Hi Vaska, I think I may have a solution for you -- negative

[WSG] you've been framed! - Pt2 : overflow

2005-03-25 Thread designer
Happy Easter to all! So I've done some fiddling with overflow : auto, and failed. My problem is (as far as I can see) that one has to specify a height for the div which has overflow:auto, and I don't know how to set the height to fill the viewport space under the menu. Normally I'd set it to

RE: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 Presentation Module

2005-03-25 Thread Trusz, Andrew
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick H. Lauke Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 2:57 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 Presentation Module Trusz, Andrew wrote: Here's how xhtml2.0 defines the text module

Re: [WSG] you've been framed! - Pt2 : overflow

2005-03-25 Thread Vaska . WSG
Javascript...calculate the height of the window or even a particular div (like the one that the overflow is inside of)...and then apply height to the div in question (based upon the calculated heights of things minus some amount perhaps)...not the most elegant way to things however...

Re: [WSG] you've been framed! - Pt2 : overflow

2005-03-25 Thread Vaska . WSG
Check this out...not sure if it's what you want, but I found an article about it for you... http://www.stunicholls.myby.co.uk/layouts/frame.html Doesn't work in IE5 but I think if you dig around enough you could find somebody who has solved this problem... good luck...v On Mar 25, 2005, at

RE: [WSG] XML Declaration

2005-03-25 Thread Martin J. Lambert
Sigurd Magnusson wrote: Is there any situation where IE6 renders in standard compliance mode with the ?xml ... preamble? Juergen Auer responded: If IE6 finds an Xml-Declaration, he switchs in BackCompat. If my understanding is correct, then this should be phrased somewhat

CLOSED Re: [WSG] 3.2

2005-03-25 Thread James Ellis
Hi Thread closed, no more please. Keep your gripes off the list. Thanks WSG admin On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:56:16 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. Your Highness. http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribing The list administrators reserve the right to

Re: [WSG] XML Declaration

2005-03-25 Thread Carol Doersom
Collin, Then why would W3C use it on their own site? This is the first 4 lines of their source code for their home page: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; html

Re: [WSG] you've been framed! - Pt2 : overflow

2005-03-25 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day Vaska.WSG wrote: What about...I can't find it right now...there's a tutorial out there about creating frameless frames using css...it might be a better solution then you can have your nav on the left and when you scroll it won't move...just your right side content will scroll...v I

RE: [WSG] you've been framed! - Pt2 : overflow

2005-03-25 Thread Martin J. Lambert
designer wrote: So I've done some fiddling with overflow : auto, and failed. OK, maybe I'm missing a trick here (do please tell me!) but if not, it looks as though this solution isn't one, after all. I've never had a lot of success with that overflow idea either. The other way to go at it,

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 Presentation Module

2005-03-25 Thread Douglas Clifton
Patrick, Perhaps you spend a little more time with syntax and a little less time spouting about perfect semantic markup. Personally, I could care less about sending XHTML 1.0 to IE as text/html. Or sending self-closing element tags either. It's a borked browser on so many fronts to begin with

RE: [WSG] XML Declaration

2005-03-25 Thread Collin Davis
Carol, For one thing, as Patrick put it so well: [quote] I was suggesting that simply saying the W3C use it on their site is not an argument that holds too much weight. [/quote] Also, per the terminology defined by RFC 2119, none of the terms used for specifying MIME types are anything more than

Re: [WSG] you've been framed! - Pt2 : overflow

2005-03-25 Thread designer
Thanks Martin - that looks intriguing! Leave it with me and I'll attach the 'proper' menu and see how it all looks. Thanks too for all the other advice/help from you folks. Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk - Original Message - From: Martin J. Lambert

Re: [WSG] XML Declaration

2005-03-25 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, I currently use php content negotiation and found the following article very informative and the script digestable: (http://loadaveragezero.com/vnav/labs/PHP/DOCTYPE.php) C PS Collin, Happy Birthday On Friday, March 25, 2005, at 11:07 AM, Collin Davis wrote: Carol, For one thing, as Patrick

Re: [WSG] Firefox bug on mouse scrolling

2005-03-25 Thread Carl Reynolds
designer wrote: Hi all, I notice a bug in Firefox (I think it is, anyway) which shows itself as a 2-3 pixel gap appearing in the bottom border of an image when the viewport is altered by scrolling with the mouse wheel. It doesn't affect all the images (strange) only some, and the image must be

Re: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 Presentation Module

2005-03-25 Thread Rob Mientjes
Pardon me for continuing this off-topicness, but this just caught my attention BIG TIME. On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:12:54 +, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, thank you for the usual Chewbacca defense...when a discussion on standards doesn't go the way you like, just point the

Re: [WSG] A web page crashing FireFox 1.01

2005-03-25 Thread Carol Doersom
Angus, I didn't have any trouble with that page using FF1.0.1. There are several malformed or missing as and /as in your html but I wouldn't expect that to cause your PC to crash. Maybe something else is going on. You might check the Firefox general forum at

Re: [WSG] A web page crashing FireFox 1.01

2005-03-25 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day I have been working on upgradeing http://choroideremia.org to web standards. When I use FireFox 1.01 to go to http://choroideremia.org , my PC crashes and all I can do is a cold boot. Anyone know why? I won't visit the site with Firefox as I'm not interested in crashing my PC. However, I