[WSG] Somewhat frustrated

2004-03-29 Thread John Penlington
Forgive my frustration, but after a couple of months with this Discussion List I've formed the opinion no browser will display web standards - every one of them requires hacks of some kind. I test on Win XP Pro with IE6 and Firefox - as well as on a new eMac with Safari and IE5(Mac). All

RE: [WSG] Somewhat frustrated

2004-03-29 Thread theGrafixGuy
I am far from an expert yet, but your display issues are very similar to what I got the first time around using CSS I discovered IDs rather than classes fro layers provides more precision. Also, you might want to try dropping the p/p and running block level text. Brian

Re: [WSG] Somewhat frustrated

2004-03-29 Thread Jeremy Flint
sure. why not. - Jeremy Flint www.jeremyflint.com Luc wrote: Good evening Jeremy, It was foretold that on 29-3-2004 @ 12:29:47 GMT-0600 (which was 20:29:47 where I live) Jeremy Flint would mumble: snipped a bit JF BTW, even with tables, sites will look differently on different JF

Re: [WSG] Somewhat frustrated

2004-03-29 Thread russ weakley
John, Yes, there are slight differences in browsers, but these are easy to overcome. There are a lot of un-needed classes in your code. The aim is to use as few as possible, and use descendant selectors to do their work. Theoretically, for this layout you should only need a few id's on the

[WSG] What tha!?

2004-03-29 Thread Universal Head
I just checked my site www.cinema4duser.com in Mozilla and it wasn't applying CSS. what the A#%^$* have I done?? Thanks Peter x-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerUniversal Head  Design That Works. 7/43 Bridge Rd Stanmore NSW 2048 Australia T (+612) 9517 1466 F (+612) 9565 4747 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] W

RE: [WSG] What tha!?

2004-03-29 Thread P.H.Lauke
Your server is erroneously sending the CSS as text/html, which is the wrong MIME type as it should be text/css. Check your server config. p.s.: apologies if this formats wrong...outlook web client is buggy Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster External

RE: [WSG] What tha!? (CSS not rendering in Mozilla)

2004-03-29 Thread David McDonald
Peter, I have had a similar problem with the BHP Billiton site recently. It looks like the server does not have the mime type for CSS set correctly. In Mozilla, if you select Tools, Web Development, then Javascript Console, you should see an error message reading: Error: The stylesheet

RE: [WSG] What tha!?

2004-03-29 Thread Chris Keane
I just checked my site www.cinema4duser.com in Mozilla and it wasn't applying CSS. have you validated your CSS? http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ I find that if part of the CSS is invalid, Mozilla ignores the wholething. Sometimes even a single line will crash it. Try commenting out

Re: [WSG] Somewhat frustrated

2004-03-29 Thread Chuck
On Monday, March 29, 2004, at 11:07 AM, John Penlington wrote: Forgive my frustration, but after a couple of months with this Discussion List I've formed the opinion no browser will display web standards - every one of them requires hacks of some kind.   I test on Win XP Pro with IE6 and

[WSG] CSS the Linux documentation project

2004-03-29 Thread Mark Stanton
http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/03/30/0041253.shtml?tid=106tid=126t id=185tid=95 Very interesting - even if just to demonstrate how little most people understand about CSS. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458

[WSG] New site - looking for feedback

2004-03-29 Thread James Silva
Hi guys, Just looking for some feedback on our latest job*... Feel free to tear it a new one :P Sample homepage: http://www.gruden.com/dev_sites/blacktown/templates/homepage.htm Sample content page: http://www.gruden.com/dev_sites/blacktown/templates/content.htm CSS is at:

Re: [WSG] Some suggestions needed

2004-03-29 Thread Gary Greer
Hi Leo. What was the URL for the tutorial? gary Leo J. O'Campo wrote: So Gary... What is complicating it? Just remember to put a clear: both; in the footer rule Just check out this excellent tutorial on how to create footer for a 2 column layout. It step by step by the numbers, easy. Leo

Re: [WSG] New site - looking for feedback

2004-03-29 Thread Ben Smith
pretty slick, I like it.. - with a few little coding tweaks you could probably eliminate most of your CSS IE width hacks. - Rollover colours on top nav could have more contrast - difficult to read dark on dark.. - It seems weird to me that the underline disappears on mouseover of regular

[WSG] [OT] Outlook error: Can't open this item. Your Digital ID name ... etc

2004-03-29 Thread Miles Tillinger
Firstly, apologies for the OT repost and I'm not even sure if anyone else worries about this, but... First list member I started having the problem with was Mark Stanton back in January, now James Silva and Gary Greer as well (and another one-off from Dominique something or other). I'm using

[WSG] WSG member gets a good wrap

2004-03-29 Thread russ weakley
Always exciting to see a WSG member getting a good wrap! The Weekly Standard has given this weeks award to Jeff Lowder from Accessibility 1st for his site - Young Achievement Australia. There is a review of the site and also an interview with Jeff:

RE: [WSG] [OT] Outlook error: Can't open this item. Your Digital ID name ... etc

2004-03-29 Thread James Silva
'Can't open this item. Your Digital ID name can not be found by the underlying security system' My apologies Miles and WSG members. This has been raised as an issue in the past and the general consensus (at least at Gruden) was to remove sigs before posting to the list. Unfortunately, I

[WSG] best method for columns inside a column

2004-03-29 Thread Miles Tillinger
Finally a chance for my first attempt at a 100% CSS positioning site and besides using the deprecated align parameter for an input:image, the site validates ok! http://streetdaddy.gotdns.com/astute/index.html http://streetdaddy.gotdns.com/astute/main.css

RE: [WSG] WSG member gets a good wrap

2004-03-29 Thread David McDonald
Good one Jeff! Great work and a very interesting interview. Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] WSG member gets a good wrap Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 15:32:40 +1000 Always exciting to see a WSG member getting a good wrap! The Weekly Standard

RE: [WSG] New site - looking for feedback

2004-03-29 Thread James Silva
- with a few little coding tweaks you could probably eliminate most of your CSS IE width hacks. Hi Ben, I'm assuming you're refering to the use of padding divs (which is the method I normally use). If not, then please let me know. I chose to use the IE5 box model hack this time around as I

RE: [WSG] New site - looking for feedback

2004-03-29 Thread Michael Kear
I can't contribute anything on the mac side, but I have to say I like it. I like the graphic device of using the fine white lines across the page and down. Nice effect. And the transparent effect in the heading looks great too. Very smooth. I think it's a clever way to use boxes as wide as

RE: [WSG] New site - looking for feedback

2004-03-29 Thread Miles Tillinger
Very nice indeed James, thanks for passing me the links otherwise I would've missed out on seeing it... The first word bold, second word normal thing seems to be gaining momentum amongst the various CSS sites I've seen lately, understandably as it is a nice effect for titles. The first thing I

Re: [WSG] New site - looking for feedback

2004-03-29 Thread russ weakley
There is: http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/resourcecat12.cfm Feel free to add your own work to this section, as that is what it is for! Russ That's that only thing I could find in what is an aesthetically pleasing design that is a credit to the WSG. Maybe it's time for a WSG Member's

RE: [WSG] New site - looking for feedback

2004-03-29 Thread James Silva
Hi Mike, I can't contribute anything on the mac side, but I have to say I like it. I like the graphic device of using the fine white lines across the page and down. Nice effect. And the transparent effect in the heading looks great too. Very smooth. Well, I'm just a lowly coder,

RE: [WSG] New site - looking for feedback

2004-03-29 Thread James Silva
Hi Miles, The first thing I though was 'oooh, how did he get the Go buttons to align so nicely with the form fields?', coz I had been trying to do it without resorting to a table or the deprecated align=absmiddle parameter. Then I realised you're using images which gets around the

RE: [WSG] New site - looking for feedback

2004-03-29 Thread James Silva
Oh ffs... Sorry people (about the sig... again). Heres the original... Hi Miles, The first thing I though was 'oooh, how did he get the Go buttons to align so nicely with the form fields?', coz I had been trying to do it without resorting to a table or the deprecated align=absmiddle

Re: [WSG] CSS the Linux documentation project

2004-03-29 Thread Cameron Adams
Geeze, if Slashdot is meant to be the domain of supposedly tech-savvy readers, it's scary how many of them know jack-all about Web development. And statements like I'd support standards if any modern browser was compliant ... Sure, they're not compliant, but for styling most of the pages

RE: [WSG] CSS the Linux documentation project

2004-03-29 Thread Hill, Tim
They look at it from a purely visual point, the advantages of css for accessibility will outweigh getting the layout right for 0.01% of the viewing population. One of the comments had me in shock, The important thing to remember here is that the new CCS'ed documents should render well on older