John, Yes, there are slight differences in browsers, but these are easy to overcome. There are a lot of un-needed classes in your code. The aim is to use as few as possible, and use descendant selectors to do their work. Theoretically, for this layout you should only need a few id's on the containers and the rest should fall into place.
I am happy to talk offlist about this if you want... Now, some overall points about table use (more for the overall list): 1. although tables and spacer gifs are hacks (when ued for layout, rather than tabular data), there are worse things you can do when developing sites. While important, building to standards are only part of the overall picture that includes good design, useable navigation systems, interesting and accessible content etc. 2. there are some layouts that are easier to achieve using tables. That is a fact. However, you CAN build layouts without hacks (or with minimal hacks), that are stable across all major browsers. Hang in there. Eventually it all clicks into place and it becomes much easier. 3. We have talked before on the list about the two extremes - on one end you have traditional layouts (tables, font tags, image spaces etc) and the other end are standards based layouts (css, accessible, valid, semantically correct code). The aim is to move towards standards based layouts, but at your own pace and comfort level. If you feel that you want to stay with tables for layout and use CSS for all other aspects, this is still a major improvement over traditional layouts. 4. the aim of this list is to encourage developers to move towards web standard not to flame people who are having trouble. Hopefully we can keep this attitude as it is one of the things that sets this list apart from many others. Russ > Forgive my frustration, but after a couple of months with this Discussion List > I've formed the opinion no browser will display web standards - every one of > them requires hacks of some kind. > > I test on Win XP Pro with IE6 and Firefox - as well as on a new eMac with > Safari and IE5(Mac). > > All my earlier web sites with tables rather than CSS 2 display quite well on > all four browsers. > > When I try to code for Web Standards, I get a medley of results. Hence my > opinion that no browser complies completely. > > Now the crunch: I'm building a site for a photographer who wants > pixel-precision layout on all browsers. At least we achieved it on IE6 with no > tables, just CSS styling. > I'm aware that I shouldn't have done that, but please read on. > > After two weeks of frustration trying to get it to work precisely on the other > browsers, I've finally resorted to tables and yes, wicked me, even a spacer > gif. > ***************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *****************************************************
