How are people handling putting quotes on q tags?
I used a quote yesterday and while moz (I think) and Safari both had
quotes built in, IE did not.
Is there a definitive approach?
I though I might do it manually (and thus reliably), but setting
q {
quotes: none;
}
didnt seem to affect the
On 5/30/04 11:34 PM Lea de Groot
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~ and if anyone can tell me what to call the little blocks of text that
are pulled out
pull-quote
HTH
Rick Faaberg
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How are people handling putting quotes on q tags?
I used a quote yesterday and while moz (I think) and Safari both had
quotes built in, IE did not. Is there a definitive approach?
I though I might do it manually (and thus reliably), but setting
q {
quotes: none;
pull-quote
Thanks guys!
warmly,
Lea
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Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/
Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine
Optimisation
Brisbane, Australia
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On 31 maj 2004, at 06.17, Justin French wrote:
Then we @import an advanced style sheet over the top for modern
browsers. IE4 and NN4 won't see this style sheet, because they don't
support the @import function.
style type='text/css' @import url(css/modern.css); /style
IE4 actually does support
Trevor
For starters see this post and resulting discussion from Andy Clarke
http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/whats_in_a_name.html
dez
Trevor Finch wrote:
Is there a naming convention for CSS Selectors ? (as in other languages)
I mean something like...
#position-menu, #position-moreinfo,
On Mon, 31 May 2004 13:01:49 +1000, Trevor Finch wrote:
Is there a naming convention for CSS Selectors ? (as in other languages)
Well, I was going to answer no, and expand that with there isn't g
But I immediately found this article:
On 31 maj 2004, at 08.34, Lea de Groot wrote:
How are people handling putting quotes on q tags?
I used a quote yesterday and while moz (I think) and Safari both had
quotes built in, IE did not.
Is there a definitive approach?
I though I might do it manually (and thus reliably), but setting
q {
On Sun, 2004-05-30 at 23:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is that in IE 6, some form elements appear to be inheriting the
content div's left margin value. The problem ceases if I don't organise the
form in fieldsets - but I want fieldsets!
I fought something similar for an hour
but other images which are basically decoration, I have placed
within the CSS div tags as background images. Is this o.k
to do as long as the images don't have any specific meaning to
the content?
I say yes! I do the same thing to prevent older browsers from showing
images that are purely
Hi guys,
New layout for http://www.english-sofas.co.uk/els_new/index.htm. however, I
am facing a challenge: max-width.
I've built the site to sit in 640 and 800 elastic windows and have
constrained the width -- fine in Gecko but Bodge City in IE. I've used
conditional expressions in CSS to
I have a style sheet I am using for the web media=screen and I also have
one for print purposes media=print. I also want to hide the CSS from
older browsers such as NS 4.0 etc. using the @import feature if possible.
When I do the @import feature the page defaults to my print style sheet for
On 31 maj 2004, at 20.39, Mike Pepper wrote:
One other issue: I'd like to maintain these product icons and
associated
text
http://www.english-sofas.co.uk/els_new/
contemporary_leather_sofas_1.htm
as auto-centre but I'm holding each model as a constrained image and
text
within a single href.
That's the one good thing about beginning anything from scratch: no conventions.
You're left to your own devices until something that makes sense begins to take root.
Well... This is all fine and good until someone on the other side of the planet reads
your code and
finds a plethora of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a style sheet I am using for the web media=screen and I also have
one for print purposes media=print. I also want to hide the CSS from
older browsers such as NS 4.0 etc. using the @import feature if possible.
snip/
It would help if you supplied either a URL or a
This is off topic so please respond off-list, but I need
some help from Mac users I have a client who sees an error that I cant
produce.
When I go to http://nqpropertyreview.com
and click enter, I am presented with a login screen, which is whats
required. So are all of the 50 people
Forgive me if this is a little off scope for this list, but having read
the recent publication from Didier Hilhorst and Daniel Rubin of
Sinelogic, Budget Design: Increase Profit by Improving Process
(http://sinelogic.com/), I was wondering what other freelancers and
small web development teams
On 01/06/2004, at 8:55 AM, Luke Moulton wrote:
At this present time, for our team a small budget website consists of a
5 to 10 page (for want of a better word) XHTML/CSS site with CMS and
can cost the client anywhere from AU$3.5K to AU$5.5K depending on
customisation.
I'm also in AU, and this
That's about right for me too.
Peter
On 01/06/2004, at 9:13 AM, Justin French wrote:
On 01/06/2004, at 8:55 AM, Luke Moulton wrote:
At this present time, for our team a small budget website consists of a
5 to 10 page (for want of a better word) XHTML/CSS site with CMS and
can cost the client
At this present time, for our team a small budget website consists of a
5 to 10 page (for want of a better word) XHTML/CSS site with CMS and
can cost the client anywhere from AU$3.5K to AU$5.5K depending on
customisation.
Justin I'm also in AU, and this appears to be a fair *market* price for
and this is why discussions about prices are usually taboo.
Not so much the giving away of trade secrets, but that
they're of *very* limited value to most everyone on a mailing
list such as this.
Thanks Mike. Agreed. Very difficult to compare Apples with apples
between different design
This is true Mic
When I started my business, I would quote for as little as AU$ 500 for a
5 page website and still the customers would crib and they would want it
to be done for $300.
Warm Regards,
Sameer S. Kekade.
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That's known as price-fixing here in the US and that is illegal.
That's not true. Discussing going rates in various countries is not
price-fixing. A group of people agreeing to only charge a certain rate is
price-fixing. This is having less and less to do with web standards.
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Kay Smoljak
Mike
No email address in your post and neither of my browsers (IE 5.23 on Mac or Firefox
0.8 on Win2k) render the AFP Webworks page fully (might be our firewall and the java
applet). So having to reply here.
With OsX 10.2.8 and IE 5.23 I do not have any problem accessing
Hi guys,
I was wondering whether you could give me some feedback on a website we have
created: http://www.jet.org.au.
We have tried to make it as accessible as possible, but better than any
Bobby or W3C validation is probably going through your critique. We are
still working on improving it, but
On 5/31/04 6:19 PM Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:
That's known as price-fixing here in the US and that is illegal.
That's not true. Discussing going rates in various countries is not
price-fixing. A group of people agreeing to only charge a certain rate is
price-fixing. This
I've let this ramble on a bit as a) it seemed interesting to a number of you
and b) it is a slow day on the list however now it is going right off target
and I think we should finish the discussion.
Thanks,
ListDad
This is having less and less to do with web standards.
Hi
The slightly OT thread [WSG] Budget Design, made me think of an idea
which is very relevent to all members of WSG ..
My premise is that any sensible business person should try to
differentiate from competitors by showing they have skills that no one
else has, vast experience etc and justify
On 01/06/2004, at 11:26 AM, Andreas Boehmer wrote:
I was wondering whether you could give me some feedback on a website
we have
created: http://www.jet.org.au.
We have tried to make it as accessible as possible, but better than any
Bobby or W3C validation is probably going through your critique.
quite good in terms of speedy loading
http://www.websiteoptimization.com/cgi-bin/wso/wso.pl?url=http%3A//www.jet.org.au/phpFiles/index.php
However the CSS http://www.jet.org.au/css/JET.css could be optimised a lot
eg:
background-color:#fff;
background-image:url(../images/orange_left.gif);
Hello,
Well I have. I'm still a high school student and therefore have no real
qualifications other than experience. However people have seen my work
and still come to me for design jobs. I charge less (again due to
qualifications) but one of the main reasons people still contact me for
design
It seems every thread I contribute to gets closed!! ;)
Seriously, I suppose I find myself more interested in design threads rather than coding ones, and that's not quite in accord with the purposes of this list, so I think I'll unsubscribe for a while. I'd like to take up this bit of bandwidth
Our web agency has been promoting the versatility of sites built to web
standards instead of the our sites validate or the you could be
threatened with legal action one day argument. Telling clients that
their site will reach a larger audience, be forward compatible, or can
be viewed better on
www.MACCAWS.org
Thats a good reason to produce standards compliant websites.
I recently had one job which the coding was easy, the actual complexity of
the detail which was so high it was just a to big a job for me to do :(
But the person who offered me the job, saw my site and emailed me.
What
www.MACCAWS.org
Thats a good reason to produce standards compliant websites.
I recently had one job which the coding was easy, the actual complexity of
the detail which was so high it was just a to big a job for me to do :(
But the person who offered me the job, saw my site and emailed me.
What
On 01/06/2004, at 11:46 AM, Neerav wrote:
So has any member of the WSG done that, justifying charging $X more
than eg: the design agency down the road which makes webpages by
putting sliced photoshop images into tables by saying something along
the lines of
I design to Web Standards and can
hiya, this is
hopefully a simple little problem - but my brain is refusing to work today
:)
on this test
page...
http://c41.com.au/test/position_test.html(yep,
validated)
...is the example of
the problem (i've stripped out all the extra html/css to make it easier for you
to peruse)
I
Hey Guys
This is a service industry, provide cost based on how much the will
cost you to do (i.e. long the work takes you to do). Implementing
standards may save you time or add extra development time.
For example I feel that CSS based design takes less time and as such
should cost less that a
Peter,
After a quick look at the css of your problem, I came up with the
following that works how you want it to in both IE and Mozilla.
I applied a float to the .main container, and also width:auto. You
don't actually need the width:auto there, but it is good practice to
have a width for every
Simon Willison is a seasoned Web developer from the UK, currently working in
Lawrence, Kansas. By day, he develops web applications, specialising in both
client- and server-side development, for the Lawrence Journal-World . By
night, he writes about web standards and technologies on his web
A problem that has popped up for me a number of times now is what to do when a
client wants to be able to manage the content on the web site themselves. For
years I resisted using a system that required javascript or any particular
software, and it has worked well, where the content to be
Ned,
Have you tried Macromedia's Contribute? Good for static pages, with a
web browser metaphor.
-Hugh Todd
Has anyone come up with some solutions for helping the client maintain
their
own content while still retaining standards compliance?
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I'm in the same situation only one step further forward. I'm considering
either using the XHTML compliant Editor that is available although it looks
a little unpredictable or changing my Content management system to allow
the user to build up pages from components.
Ie: they will select a
Ned,
I'm about to sign a contract on Wednesday and the client wants a CMS. I've
been looking into Contribute by Macromedia, and it maintains that
designers can Lock down site design, code, and permissions to protect
your website.
Although my review has just begun, my initial findings is
On 01/06/2004, at 2:22 PM, Ned Lukies wrote:
Has anyone come up with some solutions for helping the client maintain
their
own content while still retaining standards compliance?
a) Macromedia Contribute could work out fine for small stuff, and is
really the only GUI option I'd consider --
mark said: For example I feel that CSS based design takes less time and as
such
should cost less that a design that has font tags hidden graphics
everywhere.(etc etc)
Mark... my accountant would have you marched straight to the nearest wall
and shot for saying that.
Why on earth should we
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