RE: Autoresponders on the list Was: Re: [WSG] equal height columns

2007-04-18 Thread Quintin Stoltz
Benedict Wyss wrote: People need to have auto responders for business reasons, does this mean we say people on the list have to send and receive from a web mail address not a work address? I don't think View - Options - Uncheck 'request read receipt' box is too much to ask before

LIST ADMIN: Autoresponders on the list Was: Re: [WSG] equal height columns

2007-04-18 Thread lisa herrod
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Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

2007-04-18 Thread Nick Gleitzman
John Horner wrote: I'm looking at a design involving image thumbnails and the instruction to click images for larger version -- I have the idea that saying click is wrong, or rather the assumption that everyone is using a mouse is wrong. So, how would you word this instruction, or otherwise

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

2007-04-18 Thread Brian Cummiskey
I've been using View Larger Image. Perhaps even view is the wrong term now that I think about it. But wouldn't those with sight disabilities pick up on the alt and title tags of the img and href and ignore clicking on it in the first place? something like this: a href=large.jpg

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

2007-04-18 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, Images link to larger version. is less passive-voiced. Stuart On Wed, April 18, 2007 12:52 am, John Horner wrote: I'm looking at a design involving image thumbnails and the instruction to click images for larger version -- I have the idea that saying click is wrong, or rather the

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

2007-04-18 Thread Raena Jackson Armitage
On 4/18/07, Webb, KerryA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it's true that not everybody will use a mouse (and some of these mouses will not have any auditory feedback), click is a well-understood term that shouldn't alienate any users. In my opinion. Yeah, but outside of the 'oo are we gonna

[WSG] List with image and paragraph - help

2007-04-18 Thread Jim Callender
Hi all, I want to create an inline styled list, with two elements inside this list which are block level 1st level: An image which will be img src= / coded, and 2nd Level: a line of text underneath the image. ie: A list with two elements, one sitting under the other in the same list item. Is

Re: [WSG] List with image and paragraph - help

2007-04-18 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, The best way to do it would depend entirely on what you want to do, i.e. code your list according to its semantics and stucture. Inside each inline list item you have an image and text - in your example these are each contained within their own link tag. Are the href destinatiobns the same?

Re: [WSG] List with image and paragraph - help

2007-04-18 Thread Paul Novitski
At 4/18/2007 07:14 AM, Jim Callender wrote: I want to create an inline styled list, with two elements inside this list which are block level 1st level: An image which will be img src= / coded, and 2nd Level: a line of text underneath the image. ie: A list with two elements, one sitting under

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

2007-04-18 Thread Lea de Groot
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:54:22 +1000, Raena Jackson Armitage wrote: Using something more direct, like View larger image or Send us a message just flows better as written text. Exactly how to approach this depends on your audience. If your market is largely internet newbs, who aren't yet cofident

RE: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

2007-04-18 Thread John Foliot
Brian Cummiskey wrote: I've been using View Larger Image. something like this: a href=large.jpg title=larger detail image of img src=small.jpg alt= /br /View Larger Image/a Good discussion. :) Let's introduce a new slant to this: what happens if there are 16 thumbnail images

RE: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

2007-04-18 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, Yes, having mnore than one link with the same link-text but different href URL breaks fundamental accessibility guidelines. However, in this case, where there is also an image (with alt text) inside the link, would not the link text for a screenreader become: XXX View Larger image where XXX

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

2007-04-18 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, Know Thy Market is fine for usability (as far it goes). But, for accessibility, this is not sufficient. It's not just internet newbs who aren't able to use this mousey thing. Stuart On Wed, April 18, 2007 10:15 pm, Lea de Groot wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:54:22 +1000, Raena Jackson

RE: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

2007-04-18 Thread John Horner
It's a nice idea, this know your market thing, and I'm sure it's appropriate in a commercial context, but our market is *everyone*. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lea de Groot Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2007 7:16 AM To:

RE: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

2007-04-18 Thread Lea de Groot
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:45:45 +1000, John Horner wrote: It's a nice idea, this know your market thing, and I'm sure it's appropriate in a commercial context, but our market is *everyone*. (The ABC, for the non-.au based, is the major government broadcasting arm) Yes, it is, so you would be

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

2007-04-18 Thread Kevin Futter
On 19/4/07 8:29 AM, John Foliot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] One way around this would be to announce prior to the image array to Click on any image to view a larger version (or similar). This is the solution that I've (eventually) arrived at for most image galleries - just a simple line

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

2007-04-18 Thread Raena Jackson Armitage
On 4/19/07, Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly how to approach this depends on your audience. If your market is largely internet newbs, who aren't yet cofident with this mousey-thing they push around with their hand - gently walk them through it with 'click here to view a larger

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

2007-04-18 Thread zen
This is getting a bit off track, isn't it? The original post was concerned about the assumption that a user is using a mouse at all. For accessibility, it's a good idea to include a description within the link of exactly what it's linking to. Larger Image is not very descriptive. Larger