Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling of another block element

2007-07-26 Thread Micky Hulse
Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Why not to check it? From HTML 4.01 Strict DTD: ...snip... Woohoo, A is here. Case closed. Well, that went over my head... Mind explaining? -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My:

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling of another block element

2007-07-26 Thread David Dorward
On 26 Jul 2007, at 11:14, Micky Hulse wrote: Rimantas Liubertas wrote: Why not to check it? From HTML 4.01 Strict DTD: ...snip... Woohoo, A is here. Case closed. Well, that went over my head... Mind explaining? http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.3 -- David Dorward

Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS

2007-07-26 Thread Olajide Olaolorun
Thanks Michael, but it does not fix it... and yes i was working on fixing it... I add the clear left as it i floating left originally... but it is still like that On 7/26/07, E Michael Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears you are working on this page, as it seems to be changing as we

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Jermayn Parker
OK thanks. I assumed it was a no no as it does not make sense but I have learnt that making sense is not always a W3C thing :) In the templates that I recieved, the code looked like: div jhd jhd hwd wqdkh br /br / pkhdj jwhd jhwqdj hwd/p /div This actually does not view the same in every

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
Go ahead and try it, as I did. Create a page with that markup and run it thru a validator. It passes just fine. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum --

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Raena Jackson Armitage
On 7/27/07, Jermayn Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just how can this be valid?? the way i see it that ifyou have a paragraph or text it needs to be contained by a p tag or other similar tags Valid or not, it's not very semantic. -- Raena Jackson Armitage www.raena.net

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Jermayn Parker
Just how can this be valid?? the way i see it that ifyou have a paragraph or text it needs to be contained by a p tag or other similar tags [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2007 9:43:17 am uhoh, I think perhaps my wording might have confused you. It apparently will NOT allowed in the future, but for

RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors

2007-07-26 Thread SosCpdGMail
That was a big mistake... sorry. -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de SosCpdGMail Enviada em: quinta-feira, 26 de julho de 2007 20:22 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors Sorry, im

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
uhoh, I think perhaps my wording might have confused you. It apparently will NOT allowed in the future, but for now, such markup Validates in Strict XHTML and HTML4. Hope that clarifies. btw, that different browsers render it differently is of course no surprise. This is, at least in part,

Re: [WSG] Site test Google analytics

2007-07-26 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Jul 26, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Jason Robb wrote: Hello everyone, I launched a site today. http://www.barbarawellsstudio.com - I'm looking for some criticism, any suggestions are appreciated. On a side note, I posted a thread back in late May on Photo Gallery markup. My solution is located

[WSG] Maya Wiseman/e/POSTOFFICE is out of the office.

2007-07-26 Thread maya . wiseman
I will be out of the office starting 27/07/2007 and will not return until 14/08/2007. I'm on leave from 27 July until 14 August. Please send code and design documents to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] for review. To book a review, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To release CSS files,

Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors

2007-07-26 Thread Seona Bellamy
On 27/07/07, Daniel Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. I'm assuming you're talking about

Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors

2007-07-26 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Daniel Kendrick wrote: I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. You'll need cookies. (well you could sort of determine new vistors by IP address but only in a way that wouldn't be as reliable -- there are many cases of NAT users sharing a single IP, or with AOL

Re: [WSG] Site test Google analytics

2007-07-26 Thread James Ellis
HI Jason You can stick it in the head of the document although that will load it prior to the rest of the document being loaded which may cause the page to display a bit later than usual. The way around that issue is to use an event listener on load, it could even be delayed by a few seconds

Re: [WSG] Target 1st item in list

2007-07-26 Thread Jason Robb
Perhaps use an adjacent sibling selector: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/selector.html#adjacent-selectors Although I am not sure how stable it is, these might help: Meyer: http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/tests/css2/sec05-07.htm Weakley: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/selectutorial/selectors_adjacent.htm

RE: [WSG] Site test Google analytics

2007-07-26 Thread Joyce Evans
I like the photo gallery. Did you get the code from another source, or did you write it? If from another source, do you mine sharing? I wasn't a member back in May. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Robb Sent: Thursday,

Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
ahhah, okay, glad you worked it out. btw, I noticed that you are using blockquote the way older versions of DW suggested, as an indent. That is not really the proper use of that tag. It would really be better to use css to shift some other block-level element that wraps your text. A

[WSG] Site test Google analytics

2007-07-26 Thread Jason Robb
Hello everyone, I launched a site today. http://www.barbarawellsstudio.com - I'm looking for some criticism, any suggestions are appreciated. On a side note, I posted a thread back in late May on Photo Gallery markup. My solution is located here: http://www.barbarawellsstudio.com/collections/

Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
It appears you are working on this page, as it seems to be changing as we speak. However, it you put it back the way it was, with img's set to float right, then you can fix your text problem, I think, by adding this to both your blockquote selector and your footer selecotr: clear:right; --

Re: [WSG] HELP with CSS

2007-07-26 Thread Olajide Olaolorun
Thanks everyone but i fixed it with the clear: left;.. lol... On 7/26/07, WebMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Olajide, Actually yuors is a pretty simple fix. Lose the blockquotes and p tags and include your text and graphix inside your div with your thumbnail. Create a class called

Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS

2007-07-26 Thread Olajide Olaolorun
Thanks Michael... i added it ot the h1 and everything is perfect now On 7/26/07, Olajide Olaolorun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Michael, but it does not fix it... and yes i was working on fixing it... I add the clear left as it i floating left originally... but it is still like that On

Re: Spam: [WSG] HELP with CSS

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
I just checked your page again and it looks just right - unless I am not understanding what you are after. Now both the blockquote and the footer are below each set of thumbs. Is that not what you were looking for? -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu

[WSG] Google XML/HTML sitemap generator

2007-07-26 Thread Trevor Boult
Hi All, Just wanted to make those who are not aware of this great online tool: http://www.auditmypc.com/xml-sitemap.asp I've been on it all day correcting missing stuff etc from a very large site, really, really useful, and no, I'm not affiliated. Hope it helps with your workflow. Trevor

Re: [WSG] IE7 and iframes

2007-07-26 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On Thu, July 26, 2007 1:49 am, Michael MD wrote: I'm trying to fix some pages that use iframes that are broken in IE7 are there any good tips for fixing broken iframes-related javascript in IE7? This is NOT a cross-domain problem. One good tip: when you ask for help, you should tell people

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
we agree. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Raena Jackson Armitage wrote: On 7/27/07, *Jermayn Parker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Jermayn Parker
Could someone please give me the answer to this in plain english.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/07/2007 4:04:18 pm div A line of plain text. pA paragraph./p Another line of text. /div Now a question, Is this actually valid?? I recently recieved some templates of another designer

Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors

2007-07-26 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Daniel Kendrick wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. Sure. :-) I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. The only alternative to cookies is to force the user to

Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors

2007-07-26 Thread Daniel Kendrick
Yeah I didnt think so. I knew Id be baking cookies I just was wondering about a cookieless way or not. sigh Alright continuing as planned. --D On 7/26/07, Matthew Cruickshank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Kendrick wrote: I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must.

[WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors

2007-07-26 Thread Daniel Kendrick
I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. Thanks for any help, --D ***

RE: [WSG] HELP with CSS

2007-07-26 Thread WebMaster
Hello Olajide, Actually yuors is a pretty simple fix. Lose the blockquotes and p tags and include your text and graphix inside your div with your thumbnail. Create a class called .leftimg { float:left; } In your style and then call it from yourimage tag class=leftimg A working example

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling of another block element

2007-07-26 Thread Micky Hulse
David Dorward wrote: On 26 Jul 2007, at 11:14, Micky Hulse wrote: Well, that went over my head... Mind explaining? http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgmltut.html#h-3.3 Looks interesting. :) Thanks! Cheers, Micky -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/

Re: [WSG] Target 1st item in list

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
Given the poor current browser css support for this, perhaps the best thing would be to write a small bit of DOM script that would add a class to that first li for you, on the fly, on page load. It would go something like this: function styleFirstLI(){ // by divaHTML.com var

RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors

2007-07-26 Thread SosCpdGMail
http://jeremiahgrossman.blogspot.com/2006/08/i-know-where-youve-been.html#wh ereyoubeen This sound's to be a way. _ De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Daniel Kendrick Enviada em: quinta-feira, 26 de julho de 2007 20:40 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

RE: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Joyce Evans
I just came across some code on a website that I'm maintaining and realized this is what this thread is about. The code I see is: div class=nav_sub_left a href=../news.htmlNews lt;/a pTestimonials lt;/p pa href=links.htmlPartner Links lt;/a/p /div Are you all saying it's not good that the

Re: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors

2007-07-26 Thread Hassan Schroeder
SosCpdGMail wrote: Sorry, im quite new to all that, but cant you look for cached content? Ip addresses cannot be used I think, because routers and all that, but cached files will be sure on client machine if he don't clear cache since last visit. And you'll look for cached content how? --

Re: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors

2007-07-26 Thread Michael Shaw
Hassan Schroeder wrote: SosCpdGMail wrote: Sorry, im quite new to all that, but cant you look for cached content? Ip addresses cannot be used I think, because routers and all that, but cached files will be sure on client machine if he don't clear cache since last visit. And you'll look for

RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors

2007-07-26 Thread SosCpdGMail
Sorry, im quite new to all that, but cant you look for cached content? Ip addresses cannot be used I think, because routers and all that, but cached files will be sure on client machine if he don't clear cache since last visit. -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
Interesting. Yes i guess an a tag does not cut the mustard, as it is not a block level element. Good observation. But nonetheless, the w3c html validator says it is valid XHTML 1.0 Strict. So not currently a problem, so it would appear. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS :

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
It appears that it is a no-no, or at least will become so. Does that mean you should go back and redo all your sites? Nope. AFAIK, every browser will handle this just fine, at least for the foreseeable future. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting

[WSG] Target 1st item in list

2007-07-26 Thread Nick Roper
I need to target the 1st item in a list. However, to make things complicated I can't assign a class or id to it. This is because of the way that the code is generated. So, given the following example code: h3 class=someClassHeading Text/h3 ul class=someOtherClass liItem 1/li liItem 2/li

Re: [WSG] Site test Google analytics

2007-07-26 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Jason Robb wrote: My question is this: If I insert the script anywhere but the head, does this break any rules or standards? Shouldn't all scripts be located in the head ONLY? Perhaps I am way off on this. HTML 4.01 states, The SCRIPT element places a script within a document. This element

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Ryan Lin
Best way is , put your link within headers, h2 and if you want to get rid of margin in that, do it through CSS. Even if you want to put in the paragraph tag, you can put a custom attribute - p class=sectionheadera href=../news.htmlNews lt;/a/p It's more semantic. Joyce Evans wrote: I just

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
I am going to disagree with my own last statement - it may be valid in the sense that it passes Validation testing online, but surely it is not semantically reasonable to have bare text. I am less sure myself about the semantics of bare a tags, but for the sake of symmetry.. -- E.

RES: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors

2007-07-26 Thread SosCpdGMail
Your post really help to fix the problem. I'm very glad. In a very hard way, applets can do the job. If you need a how-to, I can loose some time in. Just ask. Any way, a better choice is already provided with use of the history contents. A tip for you: Dream. Code. Be more intuitive.

RE: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Jermayn Parker
I am not an expert but from what I understand text, links etc need to be held in block elements ie: p etc for it to semanticly correct. Guessing this is were POSH comes into play. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2007 11:18:45 am I just came across some code on a website that I'm maintaining and