Re: [WSG] legal list numbering

2009-08-26 Thread Paul Novitski
At 8/25/2009 10:11 PM, Andrew Harris wrote: How do people get around the problem of marking up ordered lists in legal documents, such as policies or terms and conditions? A typical structure might look like: 1 blah blah blah 1.1 blah blah blah 1.2 blah blah blah 1.2.1 blah blah

Re: [WSG] Multiple IE's for browser testing

2009-08-26 Thread Matijs
If you use the freely availabel Microsoft Virtual PC you can run the also freely available IE Compat images Microsoft provides. These are timebombed which means you'll have to re-download them about every 3 to 4 months, but it also saves you having to buy 3 separate Windows XP licenses to run the

Re: [WSG] legal list numbering

2009-08-26 Thread kwillems
For an example how to solve this take a look at http://www.regels-stadskanaal.nl It's an online archieve of the legislation of the city of Stadskanaal in the Netherlands. As you can see i've moved the nummers of the listitems to the content of the documents. Koen Willems Citeren Andrew

Re: [WSG] legal list numbering

2009-08-26 Thread Jason Grant
This isn't a problem at all. It's a simple thing to do in HTML. Example: ol liBlah Blah/li liBlah Blah/li liBlah Blah ol liBlah Blah/li liBlah Blah/li liBlah Blah ol liBlah

Re: [WSG] legal list numbering

2009-08-26 Thread James O'Neill
This straight OL does not work from a pure XHTML 1.0 Strict perspective unless your legal documents conform to the browsers' default list numbering scheme. The *'type'* attribute is not valid in XHTML 1.0 which really annoys me to no end, since I work for a county government. The numbering in a

Re: [WSG] legal list numbering

2009-08-26 Thread Antony Gr.
This isn't work correctly: 'counter-reset' and other CSS styles for this nested lists not supported by IE. 2009/8/26 Jason Grant ja...@flexewebs.com: This isn't a problem at all. It's a simple thing to do in HTML. Example: ol      liBlah Blah/li      liBlah Blah/li      liBlah Blah         

Re: [WSG] legal list numbering

2009-08-26 Thread Jason Grant
Anthony - what's there to 'understand'? This is the semantically correct way to mark up this particular set of data. Simple as. By all means you should be able to style up looking pixel perfect the same across any browser under the Sun. Cheers, Jason On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Antony Gr.

Re: [WSG] legal list numbering

2009-08-26 Thread Jason Grant
Inspect the TOC of this page and see that the markup I used is essentially correct. The difference is that they wrote the numbers down into the page (i.e. 1.1, 4.11, 5., etc.) http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ If unsure, use a W3C page as a reference point :-) Cheers, Jason On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at

Re: [WSG] legal list numbering

2009-08-26 Thread Antony Gr.
IE not understand this. You don't agree? 2009/8/26 Jason Grant ja...@flexewebs.com: Inspect the TOC of this page and see that the markup I used is essentially correct. The difference is that they wrote the numbers down into the page (i.e. 1.1, 4.11, 5., etc.) http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ If

RE: [WSG] legal list numbering

2009-08-26 Thread Koen Willems
Jason, the markup you presented is semanticly ok, but doesn't solve the issue topic starter mentioned. See the example site i've given before for a solution, http://www.regels-stadskanaal.nl Koen Willems -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: li...@webstandardsgroup.org

[WSG] accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread Luc
Good afternoon list, Does anybody know if their exists a list of what is required in terms of accessibility features for each country (governments)? -- Regards, Luc _ http://www.dzinelabs.com Using the best e-mail client: The Bat! version 4.2.6 with Windows

RE: [WSG] accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread Koen Willems
Here in the Netherlands we have http://www.webrichtlijnen.nl/english/ Koen Willems -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] Namens Luc Verzonden: woensdag 26 augustus 2009 20:41 Aan: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Onderwerp: [WSG]

Re: [WSG] accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread kris wright
In Canada, public facing federal government websites must adhere to the Common Look and Feel for the Internet, which includes an accessibility component heavily based on WCAG 1.0. http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/clf2-nsi2/index-eng.asp http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/clf2-nsi2/clfs-nnsi/clfs-nnsi-2-eng.asp

Re: [WSG] legal list numbering (webstandardsgroup: to exclusive)

2009-08-26 Thread Jason T. Featheringham
HTML5 should *never *include specifications for what you're asking. From an pure HTML standpoint, you should never be specifying what type of numbering scheme to use, just how to structure list items. The context of *type* you speak of is presentational. Maybe a *class=legal* attribute might

Re: [WSG] accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread Andrew Boyd
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Lucl...@dzinelabs.com wrote: Good afternoon list, Does anybody know if their exists a list of what is required in terms of accessibility features for each country (governments)? -- Regards,  Luc Hi Luc, here in Australia we have a couple of pieces of

Re: [WSG] accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
In the USA, federal government web sites, and those web sites were federal tax dollars are involved, are subject to accessibility requirements of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, as amended. This is more commonly known as Section 508 --- http://www.section508.gov/ Many state governments and

RE: [WSG] accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread Webb, KerryA
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Lucl...@dzinelabs.com wrote: Good afternoon list, Does anybody know if their exists a list of what is required in terms of accessibility features for each country (governments)? -- Regards, Luc Hi Luc, here in Australia we have a

Re: [WSG] accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread Rae Buerckner
As a general rule of thumb best practice would be to follow W3C guidelines. Cheers, Rae 2009/8/27 Webb, KerryA kerrya.w...@act.gov.au On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Lucl...@dzinelabs.com wrote: Good afternoon list, Does anybody know if their exists a list of what is required in

RE: [WSG] accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread Steve Green
It's not that simple. We are working with some UK Government departments that still use WCAG 1.0 and will continue to do so until well into 2010. Other departments have already adopted WCAG 2.0. To answer the question, I do not believe such a list exists, and it would require continuous

Re: [WSG] accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread Sue Choong
Very useful links thanks Andrew On 27/08/2009, at 7:27 AM, Andrew Boyd faci...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Lucl...@dzinelabs.com wrote: Good afternoon list, Does anybody know if their exists a list of what is required in terms of accessibility features for each

[WSG] Was: accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread Luc
Good evening list, Many thanks for the replies. Indeed, i was looking for a general list but as Steve pointed out, this would be difficult to maintain due to governments switching. -- Regards, Luc _ http://www.dzinelabs.com Using the best e-mail client: The

Re: [WSG] Was: accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread Shawn Henry
Luc wrote: Good evening list, Many thanks for the replies. Indeed, i was looking for a general list but as Steve pointed out, this would be difficult to maintain due to governments switching. W3C WAI has a list of Policies Relating to Web Accessibility for several countries at

RE: [WSG] accessibility: government [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2009-08-26 Thread Chris Vickery
There's also a guide for Australian Government agencies here: http://webpublishing.agimo.gov.au/ As a couple of people have said... at the end of the day it's just different flavours of W3C -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On

Re: [WSG] accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread Diganta Kumar
http://www.gcio.nsw.gov.au/products-and-services/policies-guidelines/UsabilityAssessmentChecklist.pdf/view?searchterm=style%20guide -- Regards, Diganta Kumar m: 0408267082 e: mailtodiga...@gmail.com w: adsinfotech.com.au linkedIn: linkedin.com/in/digantakumar blog: digantakumar.com twitter:

Re: [WSG] Was: accessibility: government

2009-08-26 Thread Luc
Hello Shawn, It was foretold that on 26/08/2009 @ 19:45:38 GMT-0500 (which was 21:45:38 where I live) Shawn Henry would write: Tnx Shawn :-) SH W3C WAI has a list of Policies Relating to Web Accessibility SH for several countries at http://www.w3.org/WAI/Policy/ Indeed, SH it is