Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-21 Thread Matthias
Hi Justin! Where can I get the Opera 7.5 Beta? Couldn't see an obvious link on the site... This site (not my own) has published links to all preview versions: http://opera-fansite.de/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=134 Although it's german, I'm quite sure you can find the link you need. As a

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-20 Thread James Ellis
Hi Firefox is still in beta as well (I believe it is branched off the Mozilla 1.6 alpha build). The current Mozilla is 1.6 and Firefox 1.0 will most likely branch off 1.7 [1]. Developing to a beta's idiosyncrasies is fraught with danger, the best place to get them ironed out for Firefox is

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-20 Thread Matthias
Hi Hugh! Now that it seems Opera is back in town for the Mac, with its 7.5 beta, has anyone come across any more current info on stats for this browser? I looked at several stats and Opera has something between 1% and 8% marketshare. The 8%-Value is from a german newsite where IE has only 55% and

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-20 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Matthias... lol I lvoe it! On Saturday, March 20, 2004, at 07:01 AM, Matthias wrote: Besides, as IE keeps me away from the more sophisticated things, Opera is no problem at all. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-20 Thread russ weakley
Try here: http://snapshot.opera.com/mac/m750p3.html Russ Where can I get the Opera 7.5 Beta? Couldn't see an obvious link on the site... --- Justin French http://indent.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-20 Thread Hugh Todd
Justin, Russ posted a link to a page a while back with links to all the preview versions: http://web-graphics.com/mtarchive/001178.php -Hugh Where can I get the Opera 7.5 Beta? Couldn't see an obvious link on the site... * The discussion

[WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-19 Thread Hugh Todd
Now that it seems Opera is back in town for the Mac, with its 7.5 beta, has anyone come across any more current info on stats for this browser? Perhaps this is a topic that has been done to death. I've just looked back on the list and found that Peter Firminger noted a while back what I have

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-19 Thread russ weakley
Hugh, I don't mean to jump on this comment, so apologies if take out of context, but the aim is to code for standards first, then deal with individual browser issues as they come up. We should not need to code for Opera. While they all have slight idiosyncrasies, recent versions of browsers

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-19 Thread Hugh Todd
Russ, Quite right. I'm afraid I didn't put the question very well. All I was trying to get at was an idea of whether it was worth putting in the work to fix any Opera idiosyncracies, if there still are any. That said, my guess would be that while the aim is to code in a standards-compliant

Re: [WSG] Opera market share

2004-03-19 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Hugh Russ is right. Standards based design done visually or not will save you time and headaches. Besides, Opera 7.5 is still beta so why should you even care about it yet. The current Opera doesn't rendered well on the Mac and I suspect the new Opera won't be any better. IMHO you should