On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:48:40 +1100, russ - maxdesign
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://news.com.com/Mozillaaimsformobilebrowsermarket/2100-1032_3-5483683.html
I'd like to note that this news is disinformative. You could think that
there isn't
any browser that reformats pages, zooms images and
Does that really matter?
In Firefox and IE there is a focus border anyway.
IE doesn't support :focus or outlines, so there isn't much you can help.
In Firefox Cursor-Mode (F7) uses small text-cursor that isn't good for bad
sighted people anyway.
Opera with spatial navigation always adds
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:09:23 -, Kornel Lesinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does that really matter?
In Firefox and IE there is a focus border anyway.
IE doesn't support :focus or outlines, so there isn't much you can help.
In Firefox Cursor-Mode (F7) uses small text-cursor that
Hi,
Where can I read up on these accessibility issues you've outlined?
C
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, at 06:09 AM, Kornel Lesinski wrote:
Does that really matter?
In Firefox and IE there is a focus border anyway.
IE doesn't support :focus or outlines, so there isn't much you can
help.
In
From: Kornel Lesinski
Does that really matter?
In Firefox and IE there is a focus border anyway.
Which is not always visible, depending on specific background colour and or
background pattern/image
IE doesn't support :focus or outlines, so there isn't much
you can help.
Well,
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:09 AM, Kornel Lesinski wrote:
Does that really matter?
Yes, focus highlighting does matter. I come across this daily -- and I'm a
keyboard user by choice...
In Firefox and IE there is a focus border anyway.
Which isn't exactly prominent - it provides a
Sorry about that -- it appears that pressing enter while holding down the
control key sends the message ( a new keystroke I didn't know about...)
Here's the complete message I was trying to send:
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:09 AM, Kornel Lesinski wrote:
Does that really matter?
Yes,
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:19 AM, Patrick Lauke wrote:
And you can group the above and save yourself repetition. In one
of my stylesheets, for instance, I have
#navbar li a:focus,
#navbar li a:hover,
#navbar a:active {
background: #fbfbfb;
}
I seem to recall Tommy talking
Hi,
Would you explain the abbreviation IR and what is the name, and where
can I read about this rule:
a[href]:focus {-moz-outline: 2px solid -moz-mac-focusring;}
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, at 05:38 AM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
IR techniques.
a[href]:focus {-moz-outline: 2px solid
I'm not sure what IR refers to. Here's the the CSS rule explained:
a[href]:focus { /* select any anchor with an attribute href that has
focus */
-moz-outline: /* mozilla implementation of a non standard, or non
ratified CSS property. see below for explantion. Outline creates a
border around the
The only problem I'm aware of is that you lose the ability to provide
feedback the a link has been activated.
If this is important then send IE it's own active rule:
* html a:active{}
cheers
Terrence Wood.
On 2004-12-01 4:50 AM, Derek Featherstone wrote:
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:19 AM,
I interpreted 'IR' to stand for 'image replacement', such as FIR and sFIR et
al.
Cheers,
Kevin Futter
On 1/12/04 7:50 AM, Terrence Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure what IR refers to. Here's the the CSS rule explained:
snip
--
Kevin Futter
Webmaster, St. Bernard's College
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 10:19 AM, Patrick Lauke wrote:
And you can group the above and save yourself repetition. In one
of my stylesheets, for instance, I have
#navbar li a:focus,
#navbar li a:hover,
#navbar a:active {
background: #fbfbfb;
}
I seem to recall Tommy
Andrew Krespanis wrote:
The problem with declaring all three in one is that IE 5 (possibly 5.5
also, can't remember which right now) for PC chokes on any declaration
that contains :focus. Combining your :active and :focus rules will
effectively cancel that entire declaration in dodgy old IE
Same results here for IE (similar set up) on my own test page, and I
don't see any bugs in Opera 7PC, 7.5MAC normal and SSR mode.
Opera's SSR is pretty aggressive and not many styles (if any) stick, so
the lack of :focus support in this mode is to be expected as a feature,
not a bug.
Terrence
Hmm...it doesn't seem to affect IE 5 or 5.5 (admittedly using skyx' multiple
IE installations on a Win2k machine natively running 6) on
www.salford.ac.uk
though. Maybe just depends on a variety of factors, not sure...
Hmmm indeed ;)
When I get home from work I'll find the exact bug and link
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Andrew Krespanis wrote:
The problem with declaring
The problem with declaring all three in one is that IE 5 (possibly 5.5
also, can't remember which right now) for PC chokes on any declaration
that contains :focus. Combining your :active and :focus rules will
effectively cancel that entire declaration in dodgy old IE.
oh, dodgy old IE :/
remember
On 1 Dec 2004, at 4:13 am, Chris Kennon wrote:
Would you explain the abbreviation IR and what is the name, and where
can I read about this rule:
a[href]:focus {-moz-outline: 2px solid -moz-mac-focusring;}
IR stands for Image Replacement - like the FIR or sFir methods, where
CSS (and/or Js) is
Looks good in netscape 7.1
On 11/17/2004 7:30:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
EDS has certainly gone with CSS, and the site is clean, simple, and
engaging, but someone forgot to test the site in Netscape 7.02 because
the
navbar is producing a nasty effect.
Mario
EDS goes full CSS:
I just tested the site in Mozilla and it looks fine, but in Netscape 7.02
all the elements are pushed down when you mouseover the top level navbar.
Maybe it's just me :)
Looks good in netscape 7.1
On 11/17/2004 7:30:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
EDS has certainly gone with CSS, and the
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I just tested the site in Mozilla and it looks fine, but in Netscape 7.02
all the elements are pushed down when you mouseover the top level
Looks great in a Panther version of Safari, but in Safari 1 it falls
apart. The navigation in particular. I guess partly because it relies
entirely on CSS for the dropdown menus, providing a separate stylesheet
link and Javascript for IE PC.
-Hugh Todd
EDS goes full CSS:
http://www.eds.com/
I found Mike's article on browser/standards evolution to be really
though-provoking.
I love his point about having the rendering engine of a browser (not the
interface) easily upgraded
like what occurs with each new version of Flash.
What does everyone else think? Does browser development need
Yep. Just a little nit-picking. Hence I just said it was ironic, and that
it was close.
Does anyone actually use Opera? I've tried it in the past, but found that
it had too many problems with too many sits (not only ones I built).
I'm open to suggestions about how I can fix the problem you
Does anyone actually use Opera? I've tried it in the past, but found that
it had too many problems with too many sits (not only ones I built).
Compared to IE -- no. Compared to anything else -- yes.
I'm open to suggestions about how I can fix the problem you saw in Opera,
without breaking
Very interesting
I do find it ironic that a page talking about Microsoft's lack of standards
support does not validate. Close, but no cigar.
Regards
--
Bert Doorn, Better Web Design
www.betterwebdesign.com.au
Fast-loading, user-friendly websites
One of the comments left on the site for that article made me spill Diet
Coke everywhere. Too funny:
CSS is an arcane, poorly implemented technology that reacts very
differently not only on different platforms and different browsers, but also
on different versions of the same browser on the same
Nice Templates, but my German is a little shaky at best
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Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 4:30 PM
To: Web Standards Group
Subject: [WSG] Some links...
New css layout resources:
Russ
Wow what a great set of links... Thanks for supplying me with tonight
reading. Douglas Bowman can really cook... I hope some of his stuff
will rub off on me.
Leo
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When you say that www.fhm.lv is a nice css site,
what exactly do you mean Russ? :oP
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Just gave the write up a quick once over it looks cool, but as of about
Oct/Nov last year - I know nothing about
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