The problem with testing has been argued about. The fact that Nielsen
only surveyed his subscribers, most of whom are quite different from Joe
User, probably provided different result than if more 'average' testing
was done. However, I don't really think that's a bad thing. I think it's
actually
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The fact that Nielsen only surveyed his subscribers, most of whom are
quite different
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The greatest issue that I have with usability testing and such is that
they rely
Alan Trick wrote:
The problem with testing has been argued about. The fact that Nielsen
only surveyed his subscribers, most of whom are quite different from Joe
User, probably provided different result than if more 'average' testing
was done.
Except, as has been pointed out, these results echoed
Thank you Andreas, I had forgotten to read my newsletter from Jacob.
As usual he hits the nails on the head. Another good article.
And I thought I was normal...oh well.
But that's only me 2 cents of course.
Bruce Prochnau
BKDesign Solutions
Andreas Boehmer said
Somebody pointed out this
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If I went and asked my mom what is the biggest usability
issue would she
respond
It's not very usefull to troll on anything, and definitely not on
something useful as useit.com. Please enlighten us on how you managed
to say things like:
I am not saying these problems don't exist - of course they do. But I can
guarantee you the public (our real users) would vote completely
On 10/4/05, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
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How useless is that?! People who subscribe to Jakob Nielsen's newsletter are
*not* normal. They are people who show interest in Usability, people who
have got an above average understanding of Website Structure and Web
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I am not saying these problems don't exist - of course they
do. But I can
On 10/4/05, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
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Perhaps it'd make sense to mention what website usability issues that
bug these users, rather than going by your gut feeling - atleast Jakob
asked his subscribers. It'd be interesting to note how many people you
asked
On 4 Oct 2005, at 9:05 PM, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
How useless is that?! People who subscribe to Jakob Nielsen's
newsletter are
*not* normal. They are people who show interest in Usability, people
who
have got an above average understanding of Website Structure and Web
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
People who subscribe to Jakob Nielsen's newsletter are *not* normal.
We're not?
Gosh, I didn't know that... :-)
They are people who show interest in Usability, people who have got
an above average understanding of Website Structure and Web
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On 10/4/05, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
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Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
I am not saying these problems don't
On 4 Oct 2005, at 10:32 PM, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
Major Usability Issues users cannot adjust to are:
- Missing Information
- Incorrect Information
- Catastrophic Navigation
- Websites that don't work
- ...
Ask a general person what they didn't like about a particular
I agree with Andreas to the degree that he is really saying this is not
THE Top Ten Web Design Mistakes of 2005 but rather Top Ten Web
Design Mistakes of 2005 according to subscribers of a newsletter
directed at people interested in Jakob Nielsen's views on usability.
In that respect it's a
On 4 Oct 2005, at 11:30 PM, Nick Lo wrote:
I always find it amazing that useit.com has such standing when it is
itself such an awkward and unattractive site to use.
unattractive, maybe... but awkward to use?
kind regards
Terrence Wood.
**
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
Major Usability Issues users cannot adjust to are:
- Missing Information - Incorrect Information - Catastrophic
Navigation - Websites that don't work - ...
Ask a general person what they didn't like about a particular website
and in the majority of
Much as I hate to... and I'm trying hard not to but ...yes awkward to
use. Let me pick an example:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/
That enormous list of previous columns is visually very difficult to
scan. It is chronological so if you are browsing for a particular date
your eye must go in
On 10/4/05, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Somebody pointed out this article by our friend Jakob Nielsen to me:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/designmistakes.html
I'm not one of Jakob's fans... but in my limited experience, text size
is one of the few things that
G'day
Much as I hate to... and I'm trying hard not to but ...yes awkward to
use. Let me pick an example:
All I see is an overwhelming mass of links, even on the home page.
But then, I'm just a casual observer who stumbled on the site as it was
mentioned on the mailing list. It may be
I had never been there until this thread popped and up and yes, you are
correct, it's ugly. But I guess it's the content that makes it succeed?
Buddy
Nick Lo wrote:
I agree with Andreas to the degree that he is really saying this is
not THE Top Ten Web Design Mistakes of 2005 but rather Top
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
Exactly. So for something to go onto the Top Ten List of Usability Mistakes
for the general public it must be something that bugs them so much that they
don't want to adjust to it. Is small font size one of them? I think most
people adjust to it, even
Nick Lo wrote:
I agree with Andreas to the degree that he is really saying this is not
THE Top Ten Web Design Mistakes of 2005 but rather Top Ten Web
Design Mistakes of 2005 according to subscribers of a newsletter
directed at people interested in Jakob Nielsen's views on usability.
In that
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
Oh, I do agree that he has got some good points in his article: all 10
points are valid issues, but nothing we haven't really heard before. The
We'll only hear it less when heed is paid it, or when the gummint steps
in to force it. Which would you
Terrence Wood wrote:
On 4 Oct 2005, at 11:30 PM, Nick Lo wrote:
I always find it amazing that useit.com has such standing when it is
itself such an awkward and unattractive site to use.
unattractive, maybe...
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Black on white without need to
zoom
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
Somebody pointed out this article by our friend Jakob Nielsen to me:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/designmistakes.html
Let's start with this little comment at the beginning:
For this year's list of worst design mistakes, I decided to try
* Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-10-04 11:25]:
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
Somebody pointed out this article by our friend Jakob Nielsen to me:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/designmistakes.html
Let's start with this little comment at the beginning:
For this
Nick Lo said:
That enormous list of previous columns is visually very difficult to
scan. It is chronological so if you are browsing for a particular date
your eye must go in and out of the jagged right edge.
The alertbox a title based listing not a date based one, hence why the
title appears
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