Re: defn of Named Graph

2013-09-24 Thread Sandro Hawke
On 09/20/2013 04:44 AM, Pat Hayes wrote: On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Sandro Hawke wrote: So, I hereby propose we give up on all this until after we solve the change-over-time problem for RDF. Well, I do have other things to do in my life Sorry Hopefully you at least

Re: defn of Named Graph

2013-09-24 Thread Dan Brickley
On 24 September 2013 14:31, Sandro Hawke san...@w3.org wrote: On 09/20/2013 04:44 AM, Pat Hayes wrote: On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Sandro Hawke wrote: So, I hereby propose we give up on all this until after we solve the change-over-time problem for RDF. Well, I do have other

Re: defn of Named Graph

2013-09-24 Thread Sandro Hawke
On 09/24/2013 09:38 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: Do you have a use case (involving RDF on computers) for having different properties on different graphs (which happen to have the same triples), and which does not involve graphs changing over time? (jumping in here...) Related to change over time,

Re: defn of Named Graph

2013-09-24 Thread Dan Brickley
On 24 September 2013 14:51, Sandro Hawke san...@w3.org wrote: On 09/24/2013 09:38 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: Do you have a use case (involving RDF on computers) for having different properties on different graphs (which happen to have the same triples), and which does not involve graphs

tentative actions, endorsement

2013-09-24 Thread Sandro Hawke
On 09/24/2013 09:53 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: On 24 September 2013 14:51, Sandro Hawke san...@w3.org wrote: On 09/24/2013 09:38 AM, Dan Brickley wrote: Do you have a use case (involving RDF on computers) for having different properties on different graphs (which happen to have the same triples),

The Movie of the Book: Re: defn of Named Graph

2013-09-24 Thread Jeremy J Carroll
On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Sandro Hawke san...@w3.org wrote: I'm now confident that you and I (and Jeremy) agree the problem we're trying to solve in this thread is this: people seem to want to have different properties on one graph than on another, even when the graphs happen to have

Re: The Movie of the Book: Re: defn of Named Graph

2013-09-24 Thread Sandro Hawke
On 09/24/2013 01:07 PM, Jeremy J Carroll wrote: On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Sandro Hawke san...@w3.org mailto:san...@w3.org wrote: I'm now confident that you and I (and Jeremy) agree the problem we're trying to solve in this thread is this: people seem to want to have different properties

Re: The Movie of the Book: Re: defn of Named Graph

2013-09-24 Thread Dan Brickley
On 24 September 2013 19:15, Sandro Hawke san...@w3.org wrote: So let's go back to that.Give me an example that shows three things: the triples happen to be the same, the metadata must remain distinct, and there is no change over time.As I think about it now, I'm beginning to think

Re: Rethinking WG Charters and rechartering

2013-09-24 Thread Jeff Jaffe
Daniel, Thanks. You have started a great thread. Nearly 50 thoughtful posts looking to address your issue and looking at the problem from all angles. I don't want to stop the discussion, so I hope people continue to post. But I did want to share that the AB took up this topic at its

Re: The Movie of the Book: Re: defn of Named Graph

2013-09-24 Thread Sandro Hawke
On 09/24/2013 05:32 PM, Dan Brickley wrote: On 24 September 2013 19:15, Sandro Hawke san...@w3.org wrote: So let's go back to that.Give me an example that shows three things: the triples happen to be the same, the metadata must remain distinct, and there is no change over time.As I