Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Aki Ketolainen]

On 2020-02-20 01:59, Norm Green wrote:


What command line options do you use when starting Mobaxterm for x2go ?

On 2/13/2020 1:17 AM, Aki Ketolainen wrote: 

On 2020-02-13 11:09, Leho Kraav wrote: 
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 09:53:29AM +0100, Ulrich Sibiller wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 1:10 AM Norm Green
 wrote: 
and of course as soon as I sent this email the copy and paste

problem occurs on 3.5.99.23!

Summary: copy text from a windows app and paste to the x2go Linux
desktop stops working.  I verified the data is in the window clipboard
by pasting it into a different windows app.

copy and paste starts working again once I restart the windows x2go
session and copy the data to the windows clipboard again. 
Sorry about that. One workaround might be to copy something to

clipboard on the linux side and then on Windows again. Does that help?


Yep this workaround has always succeeded for me.o

But Norm is right, copy-paste subsystem does get intermittently
derailed. 


I've switched from VcxSrv to Mobaxterm because of this clipboard problem
with the Windows client. 

Best regards, 

Aki 


I use these settings in x2goclient.exe (Mobaxterm installs into your
Documents directory in your home directory by default): 


use custom X-Server:
C:/Users/aki/Documents/MobaXterm/slash/bin/XWin_MobaX.exe 

command line options: -clipboard -multiwindow -nowgl 

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Norm Green]

What command line options do you use when starting Mobaxterm for x2go ?

On 2/13/2020 1:17 AM, Aki Ketolainen wrote:


On 2020-02-13 11:09, Leho Kraav wrote:


On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 09:53:29AM +0100, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 1:10 AM Norm Green
> wrote:


and of course as soon as I sent this email the copy and paste
problem occurs on 3.5.99.23!

Summary: copy text from a windows app and paste to the x2go Linux
desktop stops working.  I verified the data is in the window clipboard
by pasting it into a different windows app.

copy and paste starts working again once I restart the windows x2go
session and copy the data to the windows clipboard again.


Sorry about that. One workaround might be to copy something to
clipboard on the linux side and then on Windows again. Does that help?


Yep this workaround has always succeeded for me.o

But Norm is right, copy-paste subsystem does get intermittently derailed.


I've switched from VcxSrv to Mobaxterm because of this clipboard 
problem with the Windows client.


Best regards,

Aki


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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Norm Green]

Reversing the process (copying from Linux and pasting on Windows) did 
not help.  The only thing that helped was restarting the windows x2go 
session.  Seems like x2go randomly stops accepting data from the windows 
clipboard until it is restarted.


On 2/13/2020 7:17 AM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 4:12 PM Norm Green
 wrote:

I will try your suggestion the next time the problem occurs.

Please report if it helped!


FWIW, my perception is 3.5.99.23 has fewer clipboard problems than the
previous releases.  Perhaps some but not all clipboard bugs were fixed?

Yeah, I have fixed some. And I have added many FIXMEs that point to
possible improvements. But that's a whole lot of work and testing

Uli


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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Ulrich Sibiller]

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:18 PM Aki Ketolainen  wrote:
> Sorry about that. One workaround might be to copy something to
> clipboard on the linux side and then on Windows again. Does that help?
>
>
> Yep this workaround has always succeeded for me.o
>
> But Norm is right, copy-paste subsystem does get intermittently derailed.
>
> I've switched from VcxSrv to Mobaxterm because of this clipboard problem with 
> the Windows client.

Which indicates that VcXsrv is the culprit, not NX.

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Aki Ketolainen]

On 2020-02-13 11:09, Leho Kraav wrote:


On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 09:53:29AM +0100, Ulrich Sibiller wrote: On Thu, Feb 
13, 2020 at 1:10 AM Norm Green
 wrote: 
and of course as soon as I sent this email the copy and paste

problem occurs on 3.5.99.23!

Summary: copy text from a windows app and paste to the x2go Linux
desktop stops working.  I verified the data is in the window clipboard
by pasting it into a different windows app.

copy and paste starts working again once I restart the windows x2go
session and copy the data to the windows clipboard again. 
Sorry about that. One workaround might be to copy something to

clipboard on the linux side and then on Windows again. Does that help?


Yep this workaround has always succeeded for me.o

But Norm is right, copy-paste subsystem does get intermittently
derailed. 


I've switched from VcxSrv to Mobaxterm because of this clipboard problem
with the Windows client. 

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Ulrich Sibiller]

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 4:17 PM Ulrich Sibiller  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 4:12 PM Norm Green
>  wrote:
> > I will try your suggestion the next time the problem occurs.
>
> Please report if it helped!
>
> > FWIW, my perception is 3.5.99.23 has fewer clipboard problems than the
> > previous releases.  Perhaps some but not all clipboard bugs were fixed?
>
> Yeah, I have fixed some. And I have added many FIXMEs that point to
> possible improvements. But that's a whole lot of work and testing

FWIW: I have added a keystroke that dumps the clipboard state to the
logfile. Here's the corresponding tree:
https://github.com/uli42/nx-libs/commit/89cac32d923c

This will (hopefully) hit the upstream eventually. For now you need to
compile this yourself on Linux.

I have also started the "zap" feature but it turns out that some
careful thinking is required here. I did not have the clearness
yesterday to implement that ;-)

Uli


>
> Uli
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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Ulrich Sibiller]

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 4:12 PM Norm Green
 wrote:
> I will try your suggestion the next time the problem occurs.

Please report if it helped!

> FWIW, my perception is 3.5.99.23 has fewer clipboard problems than the
> previous releases.  Perhaps some but not all clipboard bugs were fixed?

Yeah, I have fixed some. And I have added many FIXMEs that point to
possible improvements. But that's a whole lot of work and testing

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Ulrich Sibiller]

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:55 AM Stefan Baur  wrote:
> > I deeply doubt that the clipboard CONTENT is responsible for the
> > problems. That's merely a problem in the workflow.
>
> Are you sure? Some reports I received (though I'm still waiting for the
> final test results) hinted that special characters might be triggering
> it. Things outside the 7-Bit or 7-Bit+usual-Windows-codepage range.
> Things like accented characters or "unusual" whitespace (not a mere
> blank, \t, \r, or \n, of course).

Well, I argue from the code side. And there the content cannot
influence the workflow. But I am only talking about the clipboard code
in nxagent. Maybe we face a bug in the nxcomp lib here. Or in the
vcxsrv clipboard code.

> > My approach is rather adding a debug facility that can be enabled at
> > runtime instead of compile time so that a user can enable it as
> > needed.
> >
> > A zapping keystroke could be implemented but I really consider as a
> > temporary. I'd love to see the problems vanish altogether...
>
> The thing is, if you log the content of the clipboard(s) on both ends
> *before* you zap, that info might help you with debugging this.
> Think of it as a "clipboard coredump".

Of course it does not hurt. The corresponding dumping code is already
there. I think I will implement the "zap" the next days.

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Stefan Baur]

Am 13.02.20 um 10:16 schrieb Ulrich Sibiller:
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:07 AM Stefan Baur  wrote:
>> Am 13.02.20 um 09:53 schrieb Ulrich Sibiller:
>>> Sorry about that. One workaround might be to copy something to
>>> clipboard on the linux side and then on Windows again. Does that help?
>> Do you think we could add some kind of workaround that "zaps" the
>> clipboard(s) on both ends?
>> Kind of like how you "zap" a heart with a defibrillator when it goes
>> into ventricular fibrillation.
>> While that wouldn't fix the issue, it would allow the user to continue
>> without having to suspend and resume the session - plus we might be able
>> to gather clipboard content info for a bugreport that way.
>> I'm thinking of a "hexdump -C"-like output that gets stored to a file on
>> each end and that the user could submit if there's nothing confidential
>> in it.
> I deeply doubt that the clipboard CONTENT is responsible for the
> problems. That's merely a problem in the workflow.

Are you sure? Some reports I received (though I'm still waiting for the
final test results) hinted that special characters might be triggering
it. Things outside the 7-Bit or 7-Bit+usual-Windows-codepage range.
Things like accented characters or "unusual" whitespace (not a mere
blank, \t, \r, or \n, of course).


> My approach is rather adding a debug facility that can be enabled at
> runtime instead of compile time so that a user can enable it as
> needed.
> 
> A zapping keystroke could be implemented but I really consider as a
> temporary. I'd love to see the problems vanish altogether...

The thing is, if you log the content of the clipboard(s) on both ends
*before* you zap, that info might help you with debugging this.
Think of it as a "clipboard coredump".

-Stefan

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Ulrich Sibiller]

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:07 AM Stefan Baur  wrote:
>
> Am 13.02.20 um 09:53 schrieb Ulrich Sibiller:
> > Sorry about that. One workaround might be to copy something to
> > clipboard on the linux side and then on Windows again. Does that help?
>
> Do you think we could add some kind of workaround that "zaps" the
> clipboard(s) on both ends?
> Kind of like how you "zap" a heart with a defibrillator when it goes
> into ventricular fibrillation.
> While that wouldn't fix the issue, it would allow the user to continue
> without having to suspend and resume the session - plus we might be able
> to gather clipboard content info for a bugreport that way.
> I'm thinking of a "hexdump -C"-like output that gets stored to a file on
> each end and that the user could submit if there's nothing confidential
> in it.

I deeply doubt that the clipboard CONTENT is responsible for the
problems. That's merely a problem in the workflow.

My approach is rather adding a debug facility that can be enabled at
runtime instead of compile time so that a user can enable it as
needed.

A zapping keystroke could be implemented but I really consider as a
temporary. I'd love to see the problems vanish altogether...

Uli
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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Leho Kraav]

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 09:53:29AM +0100, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 1:10 AM Norm Green
>  wrote:
> >
> > and of course as soon as I sent this email the copy and paste
> > problem occurs on 3.5.99.23!
> >
> > Summary: copy text from a windows app and paste to the x2go Linux
> > desktop stops working.  I verified the data is in the window clipboard
> > by pasting it into a different windows app.
> >
> > copy and paste starts working again once I restart the windows x2go
> > session and copy the data to the windows clipboard again.
> 
> Sorry about that. One workaround might be to copy something to
> clipboard on the linux side and then on Windows again. Does that help?

Yep this workaround has always succeeded for me.o

But Norm is right, copy-paste subsystem does get intermittently derailed.

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Stefan Baur]

Am 13.02.20 um 09:53 schrieb Ulrich Sibiller:
> Sorry about that. One workaround might be to copy something to
> clipboard on the linux side and then on Windows again. Does that help?

Do you think we could add some kind of workaround that "zaps" the
clipboard(s) on both ends?
Kind of like how you "zap" a heart with a defibrillator when it goes
into ventricular fibrillation.
While that wouldn't fix the issue, it would allow the user to continue
without having to suspend and resume the session - plus we might be able
to gather clipboard content info for a bugreport that way.
I'm thinking of a "hexdump -C"-like output that gets stored to a file on
each end and that the user could submit if there's nothing confidential
in it.

-Stefan

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Ulrich Sibiller]

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 1:10 AM Norm Green
 wrote:
>
> and of course as soon as I sent this email the copy and paste
> problem occurs on 3.5.99.23!
>
> Summary: copy text from a windows app and paste to the x2go Linux
> desktop stops working.  I verified the data is in the window clipboard
> by pasting it into a different windows app.
>
> copy and paste starts working again once I restart the windows x2go
> session and copy the data to the windows clipboard again.

Sorry about that. One workaround might be to copy something to
clipboard on the linux side and then on Windows again. Does that help?

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Norm Green]

and of course as soon as I sent this email the copy and paste 
problem occurs on 3.5.99.23!


Summary: copy text from a windows app and paste to the x2go Linux 
desktop stops working.  I verified the data is in the window clipboard 
by pasting it into a different windows app.


copy and paste starts working again once I restart the windows x2go 
session and copy the data to the windows clipboard again.


Norm


On 2/12/2020 4:01 PM, Norm Green wrote:

Uli,

Copy and paste seems better since moving to nx 3.5.99.23.  I've been 
using it for about a week and haven't (yet) seen any of the previous 
problems, but it's a bit soon to declare complete victory.


Norm



On 2/1/2020 4:25 AM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:

Well, I don't know when new packages are built and if that happens
automatically. Mike, who did the release, did that during a train
ride. Maybe he did not have enough time or not the infrastructure it
needs.

Nevertheless there are nighlies fo 3.5.99.23:
http://packages.arctica-project.org/debian-nightly/pool/main/n/nx-libs/
(see also https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/20)

Uli


On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 8:16 PM Norm Green
 wrote:

How can I do that?  I followed the below procedure and am still at
3.5.99.22.  I assume that since .23 is "released" that the Arctica repo
should be sufficient and I don't need the Arctica nightly repo.

https://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:howto:nx-libs-betatesting

Norm Green



On 1/31/2020 12:15 AM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:
Yesterday 3.5.99.23 was released. So can you please retry with that 
version?


Uli

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 1:00 AM Norm Green
 wrote:

I am running the new nx libs 3.5.99.22 on Unbutu 16.04 and access the
Linux machine from a windows 7 machine running x2go client 4.1.2.0 .
Just now I cannot copy from the Linux desktop and paste on the 
windows side.

Copy on goes fine but paste on the windows side shows an empty
clipboard.  I've tried the same 3 times with the same results.  I'm
guessing if I restart my x2go session that copy and paste it will 
work

once again.

In any case, the copy and paste problems are not all fixed by the 
new nx

libs.

Norm Green

On 1/22/2020 3:51 AM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:

As Stefan already wrote: there have been a lot of clipboard
improvements lately. They will be included in the next nx-libs 
release

(would probably be 3.5.99.23). Unfortunately the current development
version suffers from a serious crash so I cannot recommend you to 
try

that one. A fix is available but has not been included yet -
unfortunately.

Can you please try nx 3.5.99.22 from the location described here:
https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/57

Uli


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 6:45 PM Paul Borowicz  
wrote:
I'm on openSuse. I've always have trouble cutting and pasting 
between next to go and Windows using the mouse.


I usually have pretty good success if I copy from x to go using 
the control-shift-c method and then paste with control-v on 
Windows.


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 9:42 AM Stefan Baur 
 wrote:

Hi Léa!

Am 15.01.20 um 12:08 schrieb Lmhelp1:


Here is the problem:
as long as I copy and paste strings from the Windows system to 
a console

(xterm) in the Linux system, it works fine.
If I start, for example, "gvim foo.txt" which contains the 
string "foo",
select "foo" with the mouse and try to paste it in a Gvim or a 
Notepad
running on the Windows system, the string "foo" is not pasted 
in the

Windows Gvim or Notepad.
And starting from this point, I cannot copy and paste anything 
between

the two systems.
I have to close all the Windows in the Linux system, close the 
X2Go
session and restart a new one to have copy and paste work 
again between

the two systems.
And, as soon as I open a document with Gvim in the Linux 
system, and try

to copy and paste strings to and from it, it malfunctions again.
Practically, it becomes very unhandy because I regularly need 
to copy

and paste things that way between the two systems.

Can you help me solve that problem?
Thanks and best regards.

First, do you really have to close the X2Go session?  I would have
expected that suspending it, closing X2GoClient on Windows, and
restarting it would be enough to reset the clipboard.

Second, there have been some changes to vim regarding the 
handling of
mouse commands, I believe this started with the version shipped 
with

Debian Stretch and got even worse in Buster.  Maybe try:

:set mouse=

in gvim before trying to copy-paste things?

Third, we are currently beta-testing a new version of the NX 
libraries

with numerous clipboard fixes.  Please visit
 
and see
if you can help us test the new version, so it can become a 
part of X2Go

proper.

Kind Regards,
Stefan Baur

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Norm Green]

Uli,

Copy and paste seems better since moving to nx 3.5.99.23.  I've been 
using it for about a week and haven't (yet) seen any of the previous 
problems, but it's a bit soon to declare complete victory.


Norm



On 2/1/2020 4:25 AM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:

Well, I don't know when new packages are built and if that happens
automatically. Mike, who did the release, did that during a train
ride. Maybe he did not have enough time or not the infrastructure it
needs.

Nevertheless there are nighlies fo 3.5.99.23:
http://packages.arctica-project.org/debian-nightly/pool/main/n/nx-libs/
(see also https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/20)

Uli


On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 8:16 PM Norm Green
 wrote:

How can I do that?  I followed the below procedure and am still at
3.5.99.22.  I assume that since .23 is "released" that the Arctica repo
should be sufficient and I don't need the Arctica nightly repo.

https://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:howto:nx-libs-betatesting

Norm Green



On 1/31/2020 12:15 AM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:

Yesterday 3.5.99.23 was released. So can you please retry with that version?

Uli

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 1:00 AM Norm Green
 wrote:

I am running the new nx libs 3.5.99.22 on Unbutu 16.04 and access the
Linux machine from a windows 7 machine running x2go client 4.1.2.0 .
Just now I cannot copy from the Linux desktop and paste on the windows side.
Copy on goes fine but paste on the windows side shows an empty
clipboard.  I've tried the same 3 times with the same results.  I'm
guessing if I restart my x2go session that copy and paste it will work
once again.

In any case, the copy and paste problems are not all fixed by the new nx
libs.

Norm Green

On 1/22/2020 3:51 AM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:

As Stefan already wrote: there have been a lot of clipboard
improvements lately. They will be included in the next nx-libs release
(would probably be 3.5.99.23). Unfortunately the current development
version suffers from a serious crash so I cannot recommend you to try
that one. A fix is available but has not been included yet -
unfortunately.

Can you please try nx 3.5.99.22 from the location described here:
https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/57

Uli


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 6:45 PM Paul Borowicz  wrote:

I'm on openSuse. I've always have trouble cutting and pasting between next to 
go and Windows using the mouse.

I usually have pretty good success if I copy from x to go using the 
control-shift-c method and then paste with control-v on Windows.

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 9:42 AM Stefan Baur  wrote:

Hi Léa!

Am 15.01.20 um 12:08 schrieb Lmhelp1:


Here is the problem:
as long as I copy and paste strings from the Windows system to a console
(xterm) in the Linux system, it works fine.
If I start, for example, "gvim foo.txt" which contains the string "foo",
select "foo" with the mouse and try to paste it in a Gvim or a Notepad
running on the Windows system, the string "foo" is not pasted in the
Windows Gvim or Notepad.
And starting from this point, I cannot copy and paste anything between
the two systems.
I have to close all the Windows in the Linux system, close the X2Go
session and restart a new one to have copy and paste work again between
the two systems.
And, as soon as I open a document with Gvim in the Linux system, and try
to copy and paste strings to and from it, it malfunctions again.
Practically, it becomes very unhandy because I regularly need to copy
and paste things that way between the two systems.

Can you help me solve that problem?
Thanks and best regards.

First, do you really have to close the X2Go session?  I would have
expected that suspending it, closing X2GoClient on Windows, and
restarting it would be enough to reset the clipboard.

Second, there have been some changes to vim regarding the handling of
mouse commands, I believe this started with the version shipped with
Debian Stretch and got even worse in Buster.  Maybe try:

:set mouse=

in gvim before trying to copy-paste things?

Third, we are currently beta-testing a new version of the NX libraries
with numerous clipboard fixes.  Please visit
 and see
if you can help us test the new version, so it can become a part of X2Go
proper.

Kind Regards,
Stefan Baur

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Ulrich Sibiller]

Well, I don't know when new packages are built and if that happens
automatically. Mike, who did the release, did that during a train
ride. Maybe he did not have enough time or not the infrastructure it
needs.

Nevertheless there are nighlies fo 3.5.99.23:
http://packages.arctica-project.org/debian-nightly/pool/main/n/nx-libs/
(see also https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/20)

Uli


On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 8:16 PM Norm Green
 wrote:
>
> How can I do that?  I followed the below procedure and am still at
> 3.5.99.22.  I assume that since .23 is "released" that the Arctica repo
> should be sufficient and I don't need the Arctica nightly repo.
>
> https://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:howto:nx-libs-betatesting
>
> Norm Green
>
>
>
> On 1/31/2020 12:15 AM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:
> > Yesterday 3.5.99.23 was released. So can you please retry with that version?
> >
> > Uli
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 1:00 AM Norm Green
> >  wrote:
> >> I am running the new nx libs 3.5.99.22 on Unbutu 16.04 and access the
> >> Linux machine from a windows 7 machine running x2go client 4.1.2.0 .
> >> Just now I cannot copy from the Linux desktop and paste on the windows 
> >> side.
> >> Copy on goes fine but paste on the windows side shows an empty
> >> clipboard.  I've tried the same 3 times with the same results.  I'm
> >> guessing if I restart my x2go session that copy and paste it will work
> >> once again.
> >>
> >> In any case, the copy and paste problems are not all fixed by the new nx
> >> libs.
> >>
> >> Norm Green
> >>
> >> On 1/22/2020 3:51 AM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:
> >>> As Stefan already wrote: there have been a lot of clipboard
> >>> improvements lately. They will be included in the next nx-libs release
> >>> (would probably be 3.5.99.23). Unfortunately the current development
> >>> version suffers from a serious crash so I cannot recommend you to try
> >>> that one. A fix is available but has not been included yet -
> >>> unfortunately.
> >>>
> >>> Can you please try nx 3.5.99.22 from the location described here:
> >>> https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/57
> >>>
> >>> Uli
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 6:45 PM Paul Borowicz  wrote:
>  I'm on openSuse. I've always have trouble cutting and pasting between 
>  next to go and Windows using the mouse.
> 
>  I usually have pretty good success if I copy from x to go using the 
>  control-shift-c method and then paste with control-v on Windows.
> 
>  On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 9:42 AM Stefan Baur  wrote:
> > Hi Léa!
> >
> > Am 15.01.20 um 12:08 schrieb Lmhelp1:
> >
> >> Here is the problem:
> >> as long as I copy and paste strings from the Windows system to a 
> >> console
> >> (xterm) in the Linux system, it works fine.
> >> If I start, for example, "gvim foo.txt" which contains the string 
> >> "foo",
> >> select "foo" with the mouse and try to paste it in a Gvim or a Notepad
> >> running on the Windows system, the string "foo" is not pasted in the
> >> Windows Gvim or Notepad.
> >> And starting from this point, I cannot copy and paste anything between
> >> the two systems.
> >> I have to close all the Windows in the Linux system, close the X2Go
> >> session and restart a new one to have copy and paste work again between
> >> the two systems.
> >> And, as soon as I open a document with Gvim in the Linux system, and 
> >> try
> >> to copy and paste strings to and from it, it malfunctions again.
> >> Practically, it becomes very unhandy because I regularly need to copy
> >> and paste things that way between the two systems.
> >>
> >> Can you help me solve that problem?
> >> Thanks and best regards.
> > First, do you really have to close the X2Go session?  I would have
> > expected that suspending it, closing X2GoClient on Windows, and
> > restarting it would be enough to reset the clipboard.
> >
> > Second, there have been some changes to vim regarding the handling of
> > mouse commands, I believe this started with the version shipped with
> > Debian Stretch and got even worse in Buster.  Maybe try:
> >
> > :set mouse=
> >
> > in gvim before trying to copy-paste things?
> >
> > Third, we are currently beta-testing a new version of the NX libraries
> > with numerous clipboard fixes.  Please visit
> >  and see
> > if you can help us test the new version, so it can become a part of X2Go
> > proper.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Stefan Baur
> >
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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Norm Green]

How can I do that?  I followed the below procedure and am still at 
3.5.99.22.  I assume that since .23 is "released" that the Arctica repo 
should be sufficient and I don't need the Arctica nightly repo.


https://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:howto:nx-libs-betatesting

Norm Green



On 1/31/2020 12:15 AM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:

Yesterday 3.5.99.23 was released. So can you please retry with that version?

Uli

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 1:00 AM Norm Green
 wrote:

I am running the new nx libs 3.5.99.22 on Unbutu 16.04 and access the
Linux machine from a windows 7 machine running x2go client 4.1.2.0 .
Just now I cannot copy from the Linux desktop and paste on the windows side.
Copy on goes fine but paste on the windows side shows an empty
clipboard.  I've tried the same 3 times with the same results.  I'm
guessing if I restart my x2go session that copy and paste it will work
once again.

In any case, the copy and paste problems are not all fixed by the new nx
libs.

Norm Green

On 1/22/2020 3:51 AM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:

As Stefan already wrote: there have been a lot of clipboard
improvements lately. They will be included in the next nx-libs release
(would probably be 3.5.99.23). Unfortunately the current development
version suffers from a serious crash so I cannot recommend you to try
that one. A fix is available but has not been included yet -
unfortunately.

Can you please try nx 3.5.99.22 from the location described here:
https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/57

Uli


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 6:45 PM Paul Borowicz  wrote:

I'm on openSuse. I've always have trouble cutting and pasting between next to 
go and Windows using the mouse.

I usually have pretty good success if I copy from x to go using the 
control-shift-c method and then paste with control-v on Windows.

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 9:42 AM Stefan Baur  wrote:

Hi Léa!

Am 15.01.20 um 12:08 schrieb Lmhelp1:


Here is the problem:
as long as I copy and paste strings from the Windows system to a console
(xterm) in the Linux system, it works fine.
If I start, for example, "gvim foo.txt" which contains the string "foo",
select "foo" with the mouse and try to paste it in a Gvim or a Notepad
running on the Windows system, the string "foo" is not pasted in the
Windows Gvim or Notepad.
And starting from this point, I cannot copy and paste anything between
the two systems.
I have to close all the Windows in the Linux system, close the X2Go
session and restart a new one to have copy and paste work again between
the two systems.
And, as soon as I open a document with Gvim in the Linux system, and try
to copy and paste strings to and from it, it malfunctions again.
Practically, it becomes very unhandy because I regularly need to copy
and paste things that way between the two systems.

Can you help me solve that problem?
Thanks and best regards.

First, do you really have to close the X2Go session?  I would have
expected that suspending it, closing X2GoClient on Windows, and
restarting it would be enough to reset the clipboard.

Second, there have been some changes to vim regarding the handling of
mouse commands, I believe this started with the version shipped with
Debian Stretch and got even worse in Buster.  Maybe try:

:set mouse=

in gvim before trying to copy-paste things?

Third, we are currently beta-testing a new version of the NX libraries
with numerous clipboard fixes.  Please visit
 and see
if you can help us test the new version, so it can become a part of X2Go
proper.

Kind Regards,
Stefan Baur

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Ulrich Sibiller]

Yesterday 3.5.99.23 was released. So can you please retry with that version?

Uli

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 1:00 AM Norm Green
 wrote:
>
> I am running the new nx libs 3.5.99.22 on Unbutu 16.04 and access the
> Linux machine from a windows 7 machine running x2go client 4.1.2.0 .
> Just now I cannot copy from the Linux desktop and paste on the windows side.
> Copy on goes fine but paste on the windows side shows an empty
> clipboard.  I've tried the same 3 times with the same results.  I'm
> guessing if I restart my x2go session that copy and paste it will work
> once again.
>
> In any case, the copy and paste problems are not all fixed by the new nx
> libs.
>
> Norm Green
>
> On 1/22/2020 3:51 AM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:
> > As Stefan already wrote: there have been a lot of clipboard
> > improvements lately. They will be included in the next nx-libs release
> > (would probably be 3.5.99.23). Unfortunately the current development
> > version suffers from a serious crash so I cannot recommend you to try
> > that one. A fix is available but has not been included yet -
> > unfortunately.
> >
> > Can you please try nx 3.5.99.22 from the location described here:
> > https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/57
> >
> > Uli
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 6:45 PM Paul Borowicz  wrote:
> >> I'm on openSuse. I've always have trouble cutting and pasting between next 
> >> to go and Windows using the mouse.
> >>
> >> I usually have pretty good success if I copy from x to go using the 
> >> control-shift-c method and then paste with control-v on Windows.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 9:42 AM Stefan Baur  wrote:
> >>> Hi Léa!
> >>>
> >>> Am 15.01.20 um 12:08 schrieb Lmhelp1:
> >>>
>  Here is the problem:
>  as long as I copy and paste strings from the Windows system to a console
>  (xterm) in the Linux system, it works fine.
>  If I start, for example, "gvim foo.txt" which contains the string "foo",
>  select "foo" with the mouse and try to paste it in a Gvim or a Notepad
>  running on the Windows system, the string "foo" is not pasted in the
>  Windows Gvim or Notepad.
>  And starting from this point, I cannot copy and paste anything between
>  the two systems.
>  I have to close all the Windows in the Linux system, close the X2Go
>  session and restart a new one to have copy and paste work again between
>  the two systems.
>  And, as soon as I open a document with Gvim in the Linux system, and try
>  to copy and paste strings to and from it, it malfunctions again.
>  Practically, it becomes very unhandy because I regularly need to copy
>  and paste things that way between the two systems.
> 
>  Can you help me solve that problem?
>  Thanks and best regards.
> >>> First, do you really have to close the X2Go session?  I would have
> >>> expected that suspending it, closing X2GoClient on Windows, and
> >>> restarting it would be enough to reset the clipboard.
> >>>
> >>> Second, there have been some changes to vim regarding the handling of
> >>> mouse commands, I believe this started with the version shipped with
> >>> Debian Stretch and got even worse in Buster.  Maybe try:
> >>>
> >>> :set mouse=
> >>>
> >>> in gvim before trying to copy-paste things?
> >>>
> >>> Third, we are currently beta-testing a new version of the NX libraries
> >>> with numerous clipboard fixes.  Please visit
> >>>  and see
> >>> if you can help us test the new version, so it can become a part of X2Go
> >>> proper.
> >>>
> >>> Kind Regards,
> >>> Stefan Baur
> >>>
> >>> --
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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Norm Green]

I am running the new nx libs 3.5.99.22 on Unbutu 16.04 and access the 
Linux machine from a windows 7 machine running x2go client 4.1.2.0 .

Just now I cannot copy from the Linux desktop and paste on the windows side.
Copy on goes fine but paste on the windows side shows an empty 
clipboard.  I've tried the same 3 times with the same results.  I'm 
guessing if I restart my x2go session that copy and paste it will work 
once again.


In any case, the copy and paste problems are not all fixed by the new nx 
libs.


Norm Green

On 1/22/2020 3:51 AM, Ulrich Sibiller wrote:

As Stefan already wrote: there have been a lot of clipboard
improvements lately. They will be included in the next nx-libs release
(would probably be 3.5.99.23). Unfortunately the current development
version suffers from a serious crash so I cannot recommend you to try
that one. A fix is available but has not been included yet -
unfortunately.

Can you please try nx 3.5.99.22 from the location described here:
https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/57

Uli


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 6:45 PM Paul Borowicz  wrote:

I'm on openSuse. I've always have trouble cutting and pasting between next to 
go and Windows using the mouse.

I usually have pretty good success if I copy from x to go using the 
control-shift-c method and then paste with control-v on Windows.

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 9:42 AM Stefan Baur  wrote:

Hi Léa!

Am 15.01.20 um 12:08 schrieb Lmhelp1:


Here is the problem:
as long as I copy and paste strings from the Windows system to a console
(xterm) in the Linux system, it works fine.
If I start, for example, "gvim foo.txt" which contains the string "foo",
select "foo" with the mouse and try to paste it in a Gvim or a Notepad
running on the Windows system, the string "foo" is not pasted in the
Windows Gvim or Notepad.
And starting from this point, I cannot copy and paste anything between
the two systems.
I have to close all the Windows in the Linux system, close the X2Go
session and restart a new one to have copy and paste work again between
the two systems.
And, as soon as I open a document with Gvim in the Linux system, and try
to copy and paste strings to and from it, it malfunctions again.
Practically, it becomes very unhandy because I regularly need to copy
and paste things that way between the two systems.

Can you help me solve that problem?
Thanks and best regards.

First, do you really have to close the X2Go session?  I would have
expected that suspending it, closing X2GoClient on Windows, and
restarting it would be enough to reset the clipboard.

Second, there have been some changes to vim regarding the handling of
mouse commands, I believe this started with the version shipped with
Debian Stretch and got even worse in Buster.  Maybe try:

:set mouse=

in gvim before trying to copy-paste things?

Third, we are currently beta-testing a new version of the NX libraries
with numerous clipboard fixes.  Please visit
 and see
if you can help us test the new version, so it can become a part of X2Go
proper.

Kind Regards,
Stefan Baur

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Ulrich Sibiller]

As Stefan already wrote: there have been a lot of clipboard
improvements lately. They will be included in the next nx-libs release
(would probably be 3.5.99.23). Unfortunately the current development
version suffers from a serious crash so I cannot recommend you to try
that one. A fix is available but has not been included yet -
unfortunately.

Can you please try nx 3.5.99.22 from the location described here:
https://sunweavers.net/blog/node/57

Uli


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 6:45 PM Paul Borowicz  wrote:
>
> I'm on openSuse. I've always have trouble cutting and pasting between next to 
> go and Windows using the mouse.
>
> I usually have pretty good success if I copy from x to go using the 
> control-shift-c method and then paste with control-v on Windows.
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 9:42 AM Stefan Baur  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Léa!
>>
>> Am 15.01.20 um 12:08 schrieb Lmhelp1:
>>
>> > Here is the problem:
>> > as long as I copy and paste strings from the Windows system to a console
>> > (xterm) in the Linux system, it works fine.
>> > If I start, for example, "gvim foo.txt" which contains the string "foo",
>> > select "foo" with the mouse and try to paste it in a Gvim or a Notepad
>> > running on the Windows system, the string "foo" is not pasted in the
>> > Windows Gvim or Notepad.
>> > And starting from this point, I cannot copy and paste anything between
>> > the two systems.
>> > I have to close all the Windows in the Linux system, close the X2Go
>> > session and restart a new one to have copy and paste work again between
>> > the two systems.
>> > And, as soon as I open a document with Gvim in the Linux system, and try
>> > to copy and paste strings to and from it, it malfunctions again.
>> > Practically, it becomes very unhandy because I regularly need to copy
>> > and paste things that way between the two systems.
>> >
>> > Can you help me solve that problem?
>> > Thanks and best regards.
>> First, do you really have to close the X2Go session?  I would have
>> expected that suspending it, closing X2GoClient on Windows, and
>> restarting it would be enough to reset the clipboard.
>>
>> Second, there have been some changes to vim regarding the handling of
>> mouse commands, I believe this started with the version shipped with
>> Debian Stretch and got even worse in Buster.  Maybe try:
>>
>> :set mouse=
>>
>> in gvim before trying to copy-paste things?
>>
>> Third, we are currently beta-testing a new version of the NX libraries
>> with numerous clipboard fixes.  Please visit
>>  and see
>> if you can help us test the new version, so it can become a part of X2Go
>> proper.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Stefan Baur
>>
>> --
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>> Geschäftsführer: Stefan Baur
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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Lmhelp1]

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your answer.
Using the control-shift-c method and then paste with control-v on 
Windows doesn't work for me.
Instead, I used ":set mouse=" in Gvim before copying an pasting like 
Stefan Baur suggested.

I think it solves my problem (until the next one :)

Best regards,
--
Léa


On 17/01/2020 6:45 PM, Paul Borowicz wrote:
I'm on openSuse. I've always have trouble cutting and pasting between 
next to go and Windows using the mouse.


I usually have pretty good success if I copy from x to go using the 
control-shift-c method and then paste with control-v on Windows.


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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Lmhelp1]

Hi Stefan,

Sorry for my late answer.

- I am not sure, now, that I "closed the X2Go session" ; maybe I didn't, 
I'm not sure how to do that.

However, for sure, I closed the X2GoClient on Windows and restarted it.
But to answer your question, closing the X2GoClient on Windows and 
restarting it doesn't make things rework afterwards (maybe contrary to 
what I wrote before).


- Launching ":set mouse=" in Gvim before copying and pasting, like you 
suggested, actually solves my problem :)

I put this command in ".vimrc".

Thank you and best regards,
--
Léa


On 17/01/2020 3:42 PM, Stefan Baur wrote:

First, do you really have to close the X2Go session?  I would have
expected that suspending it, closing X2GoClient on Windows, and
restarting it would be enough to reset the clipboard.

Second, there have been some changes to vim regarding the handling of
mouse commands, I believe this started with the version shipped with
Debian Stretch and got even worse in Buster.  Maybe try:

:set mouse=

in gvim before trying to copy-paste things?

Third, we are currently beta-testing a new version of the NX libraries
with numerous clipboard fixes.  Please visit
  and see
if you can help us test the new version, so it can become a part of X2Go
proper.

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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Paul Borowicz]

I'm on openSuse. I've always have trouble cutting and pasting between next
to go and Windows using the mouse.

I usually have pretty good success if I copy from x to go using the
control-shift-c method and then paste with control-v on Windows.

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 9:42 AM Stefan Baur  wrote:

> Hi Léa!
>
> Am 15.01.20 um 12:08 schrieb Lmhelp1:
>
> > Here is the problem:
> > as long as I copy and paste strings from the Windows system to a console
> > (xterm) in the Linux system, it works fine.
> > If I start, for example, "gvim foo.txt" which contains the string "foo",
> > select "foo" with the mouse and try to paste it in a Gvim or a Notepad
> > running on the Windows system, the string "foo" is not pasted in the
> > Windows Gvim or Notepad.
> > And starting from this point, I cannot copy and paste anything between
> > the two systems.
> > I have to close all the Windows in the Linux system, close the X2Go
> > session and restart a new one to have copy and paste work again between
> > the two systems.
> > And, as soon as I open a document with Gvim in the Linux system, and try
> > to copy and paste strings to and from it, it malfunctions again.
> > Practically, it becomes very unhandy because I regularly need to copy
> > and paste things that way between the two systems.
> >
> > Can you help me solve that problem?
> > Thanks and best regards.
> First, do you really have to close the X2Go session?  I would have
> expected that suspending it, closing X2GoClient on Windows, and
> restarting it would be enough to reset the clipboard.
>
> Second, there have been some changes to vim regarding the handling of
> mouse commands, I believe this started with the version shipped with
> Debian Stretch and got even worse in Buster.  Maybe try:
>
> :set mouse=
>
> in gvim before trying to copy-paste things?
>
> Third, we are currently beta-testing a new version of the NX libraries
> with numerous clipboard fixes.  Please visit
>  and see
> if you can help us test the new version, so it can become a part of X2Go
> proper.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Stefan Baur
>
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Re: [X2Go-User] Copy and paste between systems stops working

[Stefan Baur]

Hi Léa!

Am 15.01.20 um 12:08 schrieb Lmhelp1:

> Here is the problem:
> as long as I copy and paste strings from the Windows system to a console
> (xterm) in the Linux system, it works fine.
> If I start, for example, "gvim foo.txt" which contains the string "foo",
> select "foo" with the mouse and try to paste it in a Gvim or a Notepad
> running on the Windows system, the string "foo" is not pasted in the
> Windows Gvim or Notepad.
> And starting from this point, I cannot copy and paste anything between
> the two systems.
> I have to close all the Windows in the Linux system, close the X2Go
> session and restart a new one to have copy and paste work again between
> the two systems.
> And, as soon as I open a document with Gvim in the Linux system, and try
> to copy and paste strings to and from it, it malfunctions again.
> Practically, it becomes very unhandy because I regularly need to copy
> and paste things that way between the two systems.
> 
> Can you help me solve that problem?
> Thanks and best regards.
First, do you really have to close the X2Go session?  I would have
expected that suspending it, closing X2GoClient on Windows, and
restarting it would be enough to reset the clipboard.

Second, there have been some changes to vim regarding the handling of
mouse commands, I believe this started with the version shipped with
Debian Stretch and got even worse in Buster.  Maybe try:

:set mouse=

in gvim before trying to copy-paste things?

Third, we are currently beta-testing a new version of the NX libraries
with numerous clipboard fixes.  Please visit
 and see
if you can help us test the new version, so it can become a part of X2Go
proper.

Kind Regards,
Stefan Baur

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