Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia error(s) for Marathi language

2017-04-21 Thread Dominik Wujastyk 
Thank you, Zdenek.  It's exactly as you say.

Sanskrit is a language that is recorded in several different writing
systems.  In Bengal, Sanskrit is written and printed in the Bengali
alphabet.  In Karnataka, it is written and printed in the Kannada
alphabet.  And so on.  About fourteen writing systems are used for writing
and printing Sanskrit language works.

It's like Serbian, which may be written in Cyrillic or in the Latin writing
systems, but more so.

(in my patch file, the %%DW strings in the documentation should be deleted.)

I'm afraid I don't know how to work the pull thing you refer to, so I'd be
grateful if you would do it, Maïeul.  But if it's a problem, I can surely
learn :-)

Best wishes,
Dominik



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On 21 April 2017 at 03:20, Zdenek Wagner  wrote:

> This is not related to Devanagari as a script but to a language. Sanskrit
> was originally written in the Devanagari (or maybe even in Brahmi, I am not
> such an expert) but since Hindu and Buddhists texts and prayers use
> Snaskrit up to now and people form other parts of the Indian subcontinent
> need not know Devanagari, Sanskrit is now written in other scripts. Even
> the Tibetan scripts contains charcters not used in the Tibetan language but
> they were included so that the Sanskrit texts could be written also in the
> Tibetan script. In the textbooks of Snascrit and in dictionaries a Latin
> transliteration is used, therefore the support is important. The
> modification suggested by Dominik gives an information saying which scripts
> are supported by the package so far.
>
> Zdeněk Wagner
> http://ttsm.icpf.cas.cz/team/wagner.shtml
> http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz
>
> 2017-04-21 10:52 GMT+02:00 Maïeul Rouquette :
>
>> could you explain me the aim of this change? I don't know anything in
>> Denavagari, and I would like to add a good message in my pull request (but
>> maybe, it would be better you do the pull request)
>> Le 20 avr. 2017 à 21:51, Dominik Wujastyk  a écrit :
>>
>> > If there are going to be some edits to polyglossia.dtx, I can offer
>> this small patch that I've made to my local polyglossia.dtx file.  I would
>> also be interested in comments or criticisms.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Dominik
>> >
>> > --- /usr/local/texlive/2016/texmf-dist/source/latex/polyglossia/
>> polyglossia.dtx
>> > +++ /home/dom/Dropbox/localtexmf/tex/testingPolyglossia/polyglossia.dtx
>> > @@ -773,6 +773,11 @@
>> >  %Sanskrit texts in scripts other than Devanagari.
>> >  % ^^ATODO \item Numerals 
>> >  %\end{itemize}
>> > +%% DW
>> > +%  \pkg{polyglossia} currently supports the typesetting of Sanskrit in
>> the following
>> > +%  writing systems: Devanagari, Gujarati, Malayalam, Bengali, Kannada,
>> Telugu, and Latin.
>> > +%  Use the ¦Script=¦ option to select the writing system you want.
>> > +%% DW
>> >  %
>> >  % \subsection{serbian}\label{serbian}
>> >  % \textbf{Options}:
>> > @@ -7085,6 +7090,11 @@
>> >  \def\fontsetup@sanskrit@Telugu{%
>> >\def\xpg@scripttag@sanskrit{telu}%
>> >\xpg@fontsetup@nonlatin{sanskrit}}
>> > +%% DW
>> > +\def\fontsetup@sanskrit@Latin{%
>> > +\def\xpg@scripttag@sanskrit{latn}%
>> > +\xpg@fontsetup@latin{sanskrit}}
>> > +%% DW
>> >
>> >  \setkeys{sanskrit}{Script} %sets the default for Devanagari
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ​--
>> > Professor Dominik Wujastyk​,​
>> > Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity​,​
>> > Department of History and Classics​,​
>> > University of Alberta, Canada​.​
>> > South Asia at the U of A: ​sas.ualberta.ca​​​
>> >
>> >
>> > On 20 April 2017 at 03:01, Maïeul  wrote:
>> > Le 20.04.17 à 07:26, RD Holkar a écrit :
>> > Dear Urlike Fischer,
>> >
>> > thanks a lot! This, exactly, was the error. Things are running well now!
>> >
>> > With best regards,
>> > -Rohit.
>> >
>> >
>> > I opened a pull request
>> >
>> > https://github.com/reutenauer/polyglossia/pull/180
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> > http://geekographie.maieul.net
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Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] tl17 pretest init

2017-04-21 Thread Siep Kroonenberg 
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 04:30:47PM +0100, Philip Taylor wrote:
> 
> 
> Siep Kroonenberg wrote:
> > I already wrote in a previous mail that I could not reproduce it
> > either (on Windows).
> I don't think I was explicit in my previous message as to the exact scenario 
> that provokes the error here, Siep : 
> 
> > The dialogue box in question is the "Enter path for TEXDIR"  box, and 
> > having used left-mouse-down-at-right-end followed by drag-to-left-extreme 
> > [1], the  button has no effect no matter how many times repeated..  
> > Transferring focus to another window or process and then restoring it to 
> > the dialogue box is sufficient to allow  to have its intended 
> > effect.
> 
> Could you try to replicate that exact scenario and let me (and the list) know 
> the results, please ?
> UNIV: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64-bit.

Worked fine the first time.

Failed a second time, but clicking once or maybe twice in an empty
area of the text was sufficient to deselect the text. Subsequently,
abort worked just fine.

I could accomodate you as to an enterprise edition. Instead, I used
my 64-bits w7 pro.

In view of the inherent imperfections of Perl/Tk, I do not consider
this glitch worth making a fuss about. But if you want to file a bug
report, be my guest, especially if it stops you from further nagging
this list about this dialogue.

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Re: [XeTeX] new version of HarfBuzz

2017-04-21 Thread maxwell 

On 2017-04-21 13:46, Jonathan Kew wrote:

I believe that xetex should be unaffected by that bug, because that
was an issue with the harfbuzz interface to graphite, but xetex uses
graphite directly without going through the harfbuzz layer (provided
you load the font with the /GR option, or whatever the fontspec
equivalent of that is).


There is certainly a bug in the way certain sequences of characters are 
output by xe(la)tex.  Whether the bug is in xetex, or harfbuzz, or the 
font itself is beyond my ken.  Martin Hosken (who submitted the harfbuzz 
bug fix) seemed to think that would fix the issue in xetex, but I'm not 
sure he actually tested it with xetex, which I suppose would require 
re-compiling xetex.


I can supply a simple XeLaTeX file for testing; it requires having the 
Awami Nastaliq beta font from SIL.  I can also put you (or anyone else) 
in touch with the other developers of that font, although I suppose 
Martin is the expert on this issue.


I can also take this off-line if that would be more appropriate.

   Mike Maxwell


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Re: [XeTeX] new version of HarfBuzz

2017-04-21 Thread Jonathan Kew 
I believe that xetex should be unaffected by that bug, because that was 
an issue with the harfbuzz interface to graphite, but xetex uses 
graphite directly without going through the harfbuzz layer (provided you 
load the font with the /GR option, or whatever the fontspec equivalent 
of that is).


On 21/04/2017 17:37, maxwell wrote:

I believe (correct me if I'm wrong!) that xetex uses the HarfBuzz
engine.  There was a bug in this engine that prevented a new Nastaliq
font from SIL from working properly.  A fix for this bug has just been
accepted (I believe it's this one:
https://github.com/behdad/harfbuzz/pull/475).  It's not clear to me
whether this can get into xetex before the next TeXLive release, given
the schedule here:
   https://www.tug.org/texlive/

   Mike Maxwell


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[XeTeX] new version of HarfBuzz

2017-04-21 Thread maxwell 
I believe (correct me if I'm wrong!) that xetex uses the HarfBuzz 
engine.  There was a bug in this engine that prevented a new Nastaliq 
font from SIL from working properly.  A fix for this bug has just been 
accepted (I believe it's this one: 
https://github.com/behdad/harfbuzz/pull/475).  It's not clear to me 
whether this can get into xetex before the next TeXLive release, given 
the schedule here:

   https://www.tug.org/texlive/

   Mike Maxwell


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Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] tl17 pretest init

2017-04-21 Thread Philip Taylor 


Siep Kroonenberg wrote:
> I already wrote in a previous mail that I could not reproduce it
> either (on Windows).
I don't think I was explicit in my previous message as to the exact scenario 
that provokes the error here, Siep : 

> The dialogue box in question is the "Enter path for TEXDIR"  box, and having 
> used left-mouse-down-at-right-end followed by drag-to-left-extreme [1], the 
>  button has no effect no matter how many times repeated..  
> Transferring focus to another window or process and then restoring it to the 
> dialogue box is sufficient to allow  to have its intended effect.

Could you try to replicate that exact scenario and let me (and the list) know 
the results, please ?
UNIV: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64-bit.

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Re: [XeTeX] Polyglossia error(s) for Marathi language

2017-04-21 Thread Zdenek Wagner 
This is not related to Devanagari as a script but to a language. Sanskrit
was originally written in the Devanagari (or maybe even in Brahmi, I am not
such an expert) but since Hindu and Buddhists texts and prayers use
Snaskrit up to now and people form other parts of the Indian subcontinent
need not know Devanagari, Sanskrit is now written in other scripts. Even
the Tibetan scripts contains charcters not used in the Tibetan language but
they were included so that the Sanskrit texts could be written also in the
Tibetan script. In the textbooks of Snascrit and in dictionaries a Latin
transliteration is used, therefore the support is important. The
modification suggested by Dominik gives an information saying which scripts
are supported by the package so far.

Zdeněk Wagner
http://ttsm.icpf.cas.cz/team/wagner.shtml
http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz

2017-04-21 10:52 GMT+02:00 Maïeul Rouquette :

> could you explain me the aim of this change? I don't know anything in
> Denavagari, and I would like to add a good message in my pull request (but
> maybe, it would be better you do the pull request)
> Le 20 avr. 2017 à 21:51, Dominik Wujastyk  a écrit :
>
> > If there are going to be some edits to polyglossia.dtx, I can offer this
> small patch that I've made to my local polyglossia.dtx file.  I would also
> be interested in comments or criticisms.
> >
> > Best,
> > Dominik
> >
> > --- /usr/local/texlive/2016/texmf-dist/source/latex/polyglossia/
> polyglossia.dtx
> > +++ /home/dom/Dropbox/localtexmf/tex/testingPolyglossia/polyglossia.dtx
> > @@ -773,6 +773,11 @@
> >  %Sanskrit texts in scripts other than Devanagari.
> >  % ^^ATODO \item Numerals 
> >  %\end{itemize}
> > +%% DW
> > +%  \pkg{polyglossia} currently supports the typesetting of Sanskrit in
> the following
> > +%  writing systems: Devanagari, Gujarati, Malayalam, Bengali, Kannada,
> Telugu, and Latin.
> > +%  Use the ¦Script=¦ option to select the writing system you want.
> > +%% DW
> >  %
> >  % \subsection{serbian}\label{serbian}
> >  % \textbf{Options}:
> > @@ -7085,6 +7090,11 @@
> >  \def\fontsetup@sanskrit@Telugu{%
> >\def\xpg@scripttag@sanskrit{telu}%
> >\xpg@fontsetup@nonlatin{sanskrit}}
> > +%% DW
> > +\def\fontsetup@sanskrit@Latin{%
> > +\def\xpg@scripttag@sanskrit{latn}%
> > +\xpg@fontsetup@latin{sanskrit}}
> > +%% DW
> >
> >  \setkeys{sanskrit}{Script} %sets the default for Devanagari
> >
> >
> >
> > ​--
> > Professor Dominik Wujastyk​,​
> > Singhmar Chair in Classical Indian Society and Polity​,​
> > Department of History and Classics​,​
> > University of Alberta, Canada​.​
> > South Asia at the U of A: ​sas.ualberta.ca​​​
> >
> >
> > On 20 April 2017 at 03:01, Maïeul  wrote:
> > Le 20.04.17 à 07:26, RD Holkar a écrit :
> > Dear Urlike Fischer,
> >
> > thanks a lot! This, exactly, was the error. Things are running well now!
> >
> > With best regards,
> > -Rohit.
> >
> >
> > I opened a pull request
> >
> > https://github.com/reutenauer/polyglossia/pull/180
> >
> >
> > --
> > Maïeul
> > http://blog.maieul.net
> > http://geekographie.maieul.net
> >
> >
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