CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-07-20 Thread Marc Aurele La France
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs Module name:xc Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/20 09:12:21 Log message: 318. More IPv6 changes from Alan Coopersmith as follows: - Add support for IPv6 bracketed numeric addresses, similar to RFC 2732 syntax to a number of areas.

Re: Rant (was Re: ATI Drivers.)

2003-07-20 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Fred Heitkamp wrote: I appreciate all the work various folks have done to move Linux along. I have used Linux since about kernel 0.99. Now for me at least Linux has become my daily OS. (I used to use OS/2 daily and Linux as my secondary OS.) Many Thanks to All! I also

Re: Rant (was Re: ATI Drivers.)

2003-07-20 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Dan wrote: We get what the lawyers say we can have basically, and we should be glad to get that, especially if the alternative is nothing. From an end-user's point of view, this argument doesn't cut it. It doesn't have to cut it. If a product does not do what you do not

Re: Rant (was Re: ATI Drivers.)

2003-07-20 Thread Mike A. Harris
On 18 Jul 2003, William Suetholz wrote: The binary ones, or the open source ones? Either way, your question isn't very clear. What's the deal doesn't mean a lot. I am not aware of any open source drivers directly available from ATI. That is because ATI contributes their open source code

Re: Rant (was Re: ATI Drivers.)

2003-07-20 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Tim Roberts wrote: On the other hand.. If more people who didn't want to have to run another OS to access features that are not well supported because of lack of knowledge on how to support them would comment/complain (oh alright -BITCH-) maybe the hardware vendors would

Re: Rant (was Re: ATI Drivers.)

2003-07-20 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Mark Vojkovich wrote: No, ATI makes money when IBM orders 2 million Rage chips for their next generation laptop. If IBM made the deal conditional on ATI providing high- quality, high-functionality XFree86 drivers, you can bet they would trip over their shoelaces in

Re: Rant (was Re: ATI Drivers.)

2003-07-20 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Fred Heitkamp wrote: For consumer desktop that's true. There is one potential business case in the professional desktop market. SGI's, HP's and Sun's old workstation customers have been moving over to Linux. All the film studios are using Linux, for instance. The

Re: Rant (was Re: ATI Drivers.)

2003-07-20 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Daniel Stone wrote: No, there you are exagerating. I hardly doubt that they would go broke or whatever if they released open source drivers. If anything, they would sell more boards. Not very many, and their competitirs would then have access to all their IP, so could

Re: Rant (was Re: ATI Drivers.)

2003-07-20 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 14:30, Dan wrote: Sure Quake works, and xscreensaver and the xmms plugins. Cool. But a majority of the games I have don't work: Tribes 2 ( crashes on startup ), Unreal Tournament 2003 ( previously required S3 Texture Compression, now has far too many rendering bugs

Re: [Pfaedit-devel] Re: [forum] Re: Choosing an extension for bitmap-only SFNTs

2003-07-20 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
GW Ok, I'm currently posting a new build of PfaEdit which will generate GW embedded bitmap opentype fonts with extension .otb Considering the lack of serious objection to .otb, I consider it adopted. GW (PfaEdit is currently generating 'OTTO', which is appropriate for GW opentype fonts). I'm

Re: a small twm/Imakefile patch

2003-07-20 Thread Alexander Pohoyda
Marc Aurele La France [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.alexander-pohoyda.privat.t-online.de/patches/twm.Imakefile.diff Updated. Can you elaborate on why is it useful to switch from single quote quoting to backslashes? It may be not useful as much, but with an old version

Re: Rant (was Re: ATI Drivers.)

2003-07-20 Thread Richard A. Hecker
On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 03:10:14AM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: ...snip... More likely than not it is a case of it's better to not say anything at all, than to try and be honest and explain your position and then have people attack you endlessly with more ferocity than they'd have done

Re: Rant (was Re: ATI Drivers.)

2003-07-20 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Mike A. Harris wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Daniel Stone wrote: No, there you are exagerating. I hardly doubt that they would go broke or whatever if they released open source drivers. If anything, they would sell more boards. Not very many, and their competitirs

Re: Rant (was Re: ATI Drivers.)

2003-07-20 Thread Allen Akin
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 06:09:44PM -0700, Mark Vojkovich wrote: | |As for the viability of a particular market, here's an example. | Yahoo's business section lists NVIDIA as having 1513 employees and | revenue over the last year was $1731 Million. This is revenue of | over $1 Million per

Re: Rant (was Re: ATI Drivers.)

2003-07-20 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Allen Akin wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 06:09:44PM -0700, Mark Vojkovich wrote: | |As for the viability of a particular market, here's an example. | Yahoo's business section lists NVIDIA as having 1513 employees and | revenue over the last year was $1731 Million.

Re: Rant (was Re: ATI Drivers.)

2003-07-20 Thread wim delvaux
Sorry I interrupt but I wonder why the government does not see (want to see) that Microsoft in effect is completely blocking the market. Because of its market size no development into anything new can be performed if it does not run on windows and since that market is very large, companies do

Re: [I18n] Bug #122: US Intl keyboard mapping missing c with cedilla.

2003-07-20 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 09:45:22PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: The new unified keyboard is a thing of beauty, but does not seem to take on swiftly. It removed some of the old stupid azerty/qwerty differences, and allows rational access to most of the glyphs needed for typing modern french

Re: [I18n] Cygwin: setxkbmap.exe fails for us_intl.

2003-07-20 Thread Ivan Pascal
Hello, $ setxkbmap.exe -rules xfree86 -model pc104 -layout us_intl -v 10 Setting verbose level to 10 locale is C Warning! Multiple definitions of rules file Using command line, ignoring X server Warning! Multiple definitions of keyboard model Using command line,

Re: [I18n] Cygwin: setxkbmap.exe fails for us_intl.

2003-07-20 Thread Hans Deragon
Thanks Ivan for the type. When I ran xkbcomp.exe with the file you provided, it was complaining about an interpretation error. I then did a diff between the us_intl file provided by Cygwin and the one provided by Red Hat: $ diff us_intl us_intl.old 44c44 key AE09 { [ 9,

[XFree86] Problem with ATI Technologies XPERT 2000 PRO video card

2003-07-20 Thread Richard Gipps
I am using XFree86 4.3.0 on FreeBSD 4.8 with an ATI Technologies Inc. EXPERT 2000 PRO video card with 32 Mb of RAM. After exiting from Gnome I get the following error message: R128(0): NO DFP Connected Does anyone know what this means and how I might be able to sort it out? If I enter the

Re: [XFree86] XFree86 Version 4.3.99.8

2003-07-20 Thread Alf C Stockton
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Marc Aurele La France wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Alf C Stockton wrote: I have just compiled and installed XFree86 Version 4.3.99.8 on my Dell Inspiron 2600 and when I run startx I get :- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ startx Using authority file /home/alf/.Xauthority

[XFree86] Unresolved symbols

2003-07-20 Thread PSI-Systems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 with kernel 2.4.22-pre7 and newest CVS I get the following errors -- how can I fix that? depmod -ae cd Dow X p Xdepmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.22-pre7/kernel/drivers/char/drm/gamma.o depmod:

[XFree86] display manager

2003-07-20 Thread Jianan Huang
Hi folks, A short and simple question: gdm, kdm and xdm: which of the three requires minimum runtime memory? Cheers Yahoo! Mobile- Send free SMS from your PC!

Re: [XFree86] XFree86 Version 4.3.99.8

2003-07-20 Thread Marc Aurele La France
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Alf C Stockton wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Marc Aurele La France wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Alf C Stockton wrote: I have just compiled and installed XFree86 Version 4.3.99.8 on my Dell Inspiron 2600 and when I run startx I get :- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ startx

Re: [XFree86] cvs HEAD -- _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener:...SocketCreateListener() failed

2003-07-20 Thread Marc Aurele La France
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Miles Lane wrote: On Sat July 19 2003 5:56 am, Marc Aurele La France wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Miles Lane wrote: _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running Fatal server

[XFree86] ever returning error

2003-07-20 Thread Yttrium
hi, well i've got this problem for the second time and the first time i solved it by reinstalling linux (redhat 8.0) but now i'm running redhat 9.0 and suddenly got the same problem and have no idea how it occured? and because they file always said mail your error so i thought why not do

[XFree86] X Fonts and dual monitor...

2003-07-20 Thread Nimrod GUtman
Hello all! :), i have a small problem about the X font sizes.. when i use NVidia's TwinView dual monitor stuff i have with my Geforce2mx the fonts get messed up. They grow HUGE, i'm kinda sure its because the resolutions, i use 1024x768 on my main screen (the computer screen) and size of 1024x768

[XFree86] help

2003-07-20 Thread zippo
Hey, i am useing Icewm and i am trying to specify the font in a config file. Font Speedo. i use the line TitleFontName=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ that doesn't work i was wondering if you knew of the proper command or call i should use? thanks for anyhelp zippo

[XFree86] ati-mach64 + xfree + gatos problems

2003-07-20 Thread joy
hi, i recently installed a gentoo-disto on a pentiumII-system, since it has a ati 3D Rage Pro i played a bit around with gatos-drivers to get Xv. it seems to work somehow, but i encounterd some problems. 1. after a while i get some flickering on my monitor. It increases and half an hour later

[XFree86] Participa y Gana un Espectacular DVD

2003-07-20 Thread .::Macro Service::.
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[XFree86] (EE) Device not found Error

2003-07-20 Thread Vladimiro Paredes
Hello all I am a new Linux user. I have just installed Mandrake 9.0 and X was working good. I changed the video card and I started getting an error when loading X, and it no longer loaded. The error is as follows: XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor

[XFree86] XFree86 4.3.0 + FreeBSD 4.3.0-STABLE

2003-07-20 Thread Darren
I've spent the last few days trying to resolve this problem, and can't get any further. I run startx and the X server does not load up. I've pasted the verbose output along with the /etc/X11/XF86Config. Card is a NVidia Riva 128, with a Gateway monitor. X does work, as i've used the vga driver

[XFree86] (no subject)

2003-07-20 Thread rtolosa
I have installed Red Hat 8.0 and Timesys 3.1. I don't have any problem starting Red Hat' kernel, but I cannot start the X Window System when starting with Timesys. When I get to the graphic login I log in with gnome and it crashes saying this: There already appears to be an X server running on

[XFree86] Problem starting X server with Timesys kernel

2003-07-20 Thread rtolosa
Sorry for the mails before, I missed the subject I have installed Red Hat 8.0 and Timesys 3.1. I don't have any problem starting Red Hat' kernel, but I cannot start the X Window System when starting with Timesys. When I get to the graphic login I log in with gnome and it crashes saying this:

Re: [XFree86] error log

2003-07-20 Thread Mark Vojkovich
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psaux Device or resource busy. It is failing to get the mouse working. On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Henry M. Whitney III wrote: My machine has been acting funny ever since I tried to configure the Ethernet card. It will not allow the X window to

Re: [XFree86] X Fonts and dual monitor...

2003-07-20 Thread Mark Vojkovich
You probably want to play with the DisplaySize in the Section Monitor in the XF86Config as described in the XF86Config man page. Mark. On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Nimrod GUtman wrote: Hello all! :), i have a small problem about the X font sizes.. when i use NVidia's

[XFree86] xvideo and tvout for Rage Mobility P/M

2003-07-20 Thread Tom Panning
Is there any way to get xvideo and tvout working with the ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) (as listed by lspci)? Thanks, Tom Panning ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86

Re: [XFree86] XFree86 4.3.0 + FreeBSD 4.3.0-STABLE

2003-07-20 Thread Mark Vojkovich
It's a bug in the 4.3 nv driver that pertains only to the Riva128. You need to add: Option NoDDC to the Section Device of the XF86Config file. Mark. On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Darren wrote: I've spent the last few days trying to resolve this problem, and can't get

Re: [XFree86] X Fonts and dual monitor...

2003-07-20 Thread Nimrod GUtman
thanks :) i just needed to run x with -- -dpi 100 it fixed everything -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) mQGiBD8VnBERBACJZ2iLXDGOuKWJBrqbf4j7b+PvW1OhfFLVdMBffujoMurHS/8u Q9WmqP7ysb8nJTA1khwYBqKJM+4MFx1fN+uUp2HVfwRQAj4yr+C8fFgxgbfNiWK6

Re: [XFree86] cvs HEAD -- _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener:...SocketCreateListener() failed

2003-07-20 Thread Matthieu Herrb
Marc Aurele La France wrote (in a message from Sunday 20) On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Miles Lane wrote: On Sat July 19 2003 5:56 am, Marc Aurele La France wrote: On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Miles Lane wrote: _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed

Re[2]: [XFree86] XFree86 4.3.0 + FreeBSD 4.3.0-STABLE

2003-07-20 Thread Darren
Hello Mark, Thanks for your email. I have added this option to the Device section. Option NoDDC It does'nt however allow X to start up, i.e. it does'nt fix the problem. I don't understand why X tries to load it up, if i've already specified that this option is not required. Does

Re: Re[2]: [XFree86] XFree86 4.3.0 + FreeBSD 4.3.0-STABLE

2003-07-20 Thread Mark Vojkovich
Hmmm... That shouldn't be. I recall Option NoDDC being a verified workaround. Anyhow, I have a slightly newer module at http://www.xfree86.org/~mvojkovi/nv_drv.o which is still binary compatible with XFree86 4.3. I'm not sure but it probably has a fix for the core Riva128 problem in that

Re[4]: [XFree86] XFree86 4.3.0 + FreeBSD 4.3.0-STABLE

2003-07-20 Thread Darren
Hello Mark, The new and updated nv_drv.o *does *work. There is another workaround that I found on the web, which is to use the vesa driver if you don't want to download and install this updated driver, however the nvidia driver appears crisper. Just use this instead. Driver vesa Kind regards,