[xmail] Choosing XMail's group and umask

2005-06-15 Thread Sönke Ruempler

Hi Davide and list,

a couple of weeks ago there was a little discussion on the list about
the file permissions and creation masks. I was the one who answered: If
you chmod your MailRoot 700, you don't have to care about these things.

But now I ran into a problem: I want to grant some read access to a
unix-group (e.g. mail) that can do support things like checking the logs
and mailboxes and so on. No problem so far for configs and logs, make
MailRoot group owner to mail and chmod g+r, g+x. But in the domains/
dir, XMail creates the directories root.root and 700. So my question is,
would it be possible to add some feature to XMail to choose

a) the gid
b) the umask

which are used to create new files and directories?

Any hints, thoughts or other ideas on this topic?

Thx, soenke.
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[xmail] Re: Disable mail loop eventlog entries

2005-06-15 Thread Michal Altair Valasek

Hello,

| Can I suggest to be warning, not 'error' nor 'information' 
| .. I think it's more appropriate ...

according to Windows architecture, the recommended meaning of events is
that:

Error is a critical failure, which disrupts (or most likely will disrupt)
normal operation of server. Administrator's attention is required as soon as
possible.

Warning is a non-critical failure, which did not caused any widespread
problems, but still requires administrator's attention.

Information is a notification about certain event, which is part of normal
operation. Situation was resolved the expected way and no administrator's
attention is required.

IMHO, what's most important is the factor of administrator's attention. Mail
loops (when resolved) are semi-normal part of mail server operation and mail
server is expected to deal with them. I, as administrator, can do virtually
nothing to solve the situation - especially at time when the message is
written to log.

I agree that this event should be logged somewhere, to help diagnostics, but
I would prefer it to be information only.

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[xmail] Re: Disable mail loop eventlog entries

2005-06-15 Thread CLEMENT Francis


 -Message d'origine-
 De : Michal Altair Valasek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envoy=E9 : mardi 31 mai 2005 12:19
 A : xmail@xmailserver.org
 Objet : [xmail] Disable mail loop eventlog entries
=20
=20
 give it a Error status.
=20
 Davide, may you please change the status to something less=20
 important, like
 information? Or allow user to stop emiting such messages at all?
=20

Can I suggest to be warning, not 'error' nor 'information' .. I think =
it's
more appropriate ...

And Yes, an option to not log at all and/or to specify eventlog to use =
(as
on =3D w2k you can create your now eventlog files so admin could =
create a
xmail specific eventlog and set xmail to use it)

Francis
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[xmail] Re: XMail Manager 1.0 Final - TOTAL FAILURE

2005-06-15 Thread Sergio Perrone

Tony Shiffer wrote:

Mike;
With the luck I normally have, it will be just me with the problem.
...
  

 ...

Does anyone have the previous version installer for this program?  Please 
help out if you do.

Tony

  

I´ve have that version, patch included. Total zip size is 3.7 Mb.
If you need it, send me an email address to deliver the file.

Sergio



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[xmail] Re: RDNS and RBLsquestion

2005-06-15 Thread CLEMENT Francis

Using a rbl (and spamhaus is a good one) and others tools like RDNS, =
GLST,
AV, anti-spam, ... is not a problem IF you take care to advertise your =
users
(if possible before effective deployment date) and explain them =
advantages
and possible problems (and how to explain problem to their contacts ... =
a
reference page in your site can help ...).
So educated users will not ask you for this type of problems ... (or =
only a
few 'irreducible' ..)

At this time I don't use RDNS nor Checkmailer domain due to too many =
badly
configured domains, especially domains hosted on access providers in =
their
packages, sheep hosting providers, reducing cost to minimum so =
discarding
any no absolutely necessary configurations like PTR, since they are not
'forced' by smtp related rfc's to do them to function (not mandatory).

I think Internet have to change definitively to a new safe mail =
protocol ...
In the hope SMTP that 'Simple Mail Transport Protocol' becomes 'Safe =
Mail
Transport Protocol' (smtp + mandatory thinks like spf, ... for example) =
;-)
But problem is 'backward compatibility' and until you accept old smtp, =
you
don't resolve the problem definitively.
Or all Internet need to switch at the same time to new protocol with no =
more
backward compatibility.
(option is to allow mixed environment for some months, 2 years ? seems =
to me
good enough, then only accept new protocol)

Francis



 -Message d'origine-
 De : Javier Navarro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envoy=E9 : jeudi 19 mai 2005 09:44
 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org
 Objet : [xmail] RDNS and RBLsquestion
=20
=20
   Hi
   Last days I've been using RDNS and RBL=20
 (sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org) ckecks and many of my customers had=20
 problems. Some because they couldn't receive e-mail from=20
 other ISPs that didn't configure RDNS and others because they=20
 couldn't receive mail from blacklisted IPs.
=20
   I'm having RDNS problems even with important companies here=20
 in Spain and it's dificult to explain my customers that this=20
 is caused by other's bad configuration. My customers say:=20
 Yesterday I could recive from  and now I can't. What did=20
 you changed?. And some of these important companies say they=20
 can't set a RDNS record since they host several services per IP.
=20
   I write to ask you about your experience with RDNS and=20
 RBLs. What configuration do you use? What RBL servers do you use?
=20
   Thanks,
=20
   Javier Navarro
=20
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[xmail] Disable mail loop eventlog entries

2005-06-15 Thread Michal Altair Valasek

Hello,

every time Xmail detects a mail loop problem (which happens pretty often)
it emits message to application event log, marked as Error.

This is annoying me, because my system monitoring alerts me on failures.
Discovered mail loop is normal working condition - not something which needs
my personal immediate reaction. Therefore I think that's not a good idea to
give it a Error status.

Davide, may you please change the status to something less important, like
information? Or allow user to stop emiting such messages at all?

Regards,


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[xmail] UHHHHHHH STOP IT ! - RE: Choosing XMail's group and umask

2005-06-15 Thread Sönke Ruempler

Hi

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:41
AM:

 [...]

LOL - someone could assume that this is my personal PITA mailserver for
Davide that sends out the mails every 2 weeks ;-))

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[xmail] Re: UHHHHHHH STOP IT !

2005-06-15 Thread Francesco Vertova

At 11.29 15/06/05 +0200, you wrote:

LOL - someone could assume that this is my personal PITA mailserver for

If I remember well, this is the very same guy (or machine) who reinjected 
messages in the list a couple of weeks ago. From the header:

Received: from mail pickup service by 
arsenet-princip.ArSeNet-LasRozas.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC;

Ciao, Francesco

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[xmail] Re: delivery delaying

2005-06-15 Thread Helio Cavichiolo Jr

I started xmail with -Qn 512 and now the delivery is working fast.
Thank you very much, Francis.

Em Sex 10 Jun 2005 12:21, CLEMENT Francis escreveu:
 - First change -Qn parameter that define max number of threads used by
 smail module of xmail (smail is responsible to deliver local and outgoing
 mails). Default value is 256.

 - See also if filters don't take too time to execute
 If you can, use preferably natively compiled filters (written in C, C++,
 ) faster than interpreted (or 'pseudo'-compiled) languages ...
 Verify if filters, especially when using 'shared' files like logs,
 databases, don't wait too much for the shared ressource to be available.

 - See also if real memory is able to take the job without swapping (no swap
 activity is allways the best).

 - Does you mail server used for others tasks ? See if they don't take too
 much system ressources ...
 (a dedicated mail server is the best. Put Webmail/web/ftp/... on another
 server)

 You will need to use analysers to examine performance counters for best
 results in finding best ram/swap/cpu/os/software configuration.

 Francis

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  Envoyé : vendredi 10 juin 2005 15:37
  À : xmail@xmailserver.org
  Objet : [xmail] delivery delaying
 
 
 
  Hi ALL,
 
  I have a xmail server with 180 domains and 3000 accounts
  (total). The problem
  is that it receive the messages but expends too much time to
  deliver the
  messages to the account.
  Anyone have a solutions for this?
 
  Thanks
 
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[xmail] mail loop back to myself

2005-06-15 Thread Lars

hi,

i had set up a linux server (suse 9.1) with xmail. everything works 
fine, my mails sended by an external mailer come in and a mail localy 
sended (to an external mailadress or another then the sended-domain) 
finds the way out :-) BUT if i send a mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] i did not get the mail ...

so i looked under /var/mail/root and i had a big mail-file with all my 
lost mails ...
in this file is written Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail for domain_1 
loops back to myself

how can i solve my problem?

greetz  regards
lars





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[xmail] Re: mail loop back to myself

2005-06-15 Thread =?ISO-8859-15?Q?S=F6nke_Ruempler?=

Lars wrote:
 hi,
 
 i had set up a linux server (suse 9.1) with xmail. everything works 
 fine, my mails sended by an external mailer come in and a mail localy 
 sended (to an external mailadress or another then the sended-domain) 
 finds the way out :-) BUT if i send a mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] i did not get the mail ...
 
 so i looked under /var/mail/root and i had a big mail-file with all my 
 lost mails ...
 in this file is written Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail for domain_1 
 loops back to myself
 
 how can i solve my problem?

It seems that postfix is installed and started. Look at the SMTP 
greeting line (telnet host 25) if XMail or Postfix answers ...
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