Re: [Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread J. Imlay
I am just a casual reader on this list so I could be entirly wrong about all this. I've read the thread that you started last spring, and I've been following this one, and I sympathize with you on the problems with the acceleration in X (it's down right unusable IMHO) but what I'm missing is what

Patches in limbo - was Re: [Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, J. Imlay wrote: I am just a casual reader on this list so I could be entirly wrong about all this. I've read the thread that you started last spring, and I've been following this one, and I sympathize with you on the problems with the acceleration in X (it's down right

Re: Patches in limbo - was Re: [Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Stephen Davies
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: Speaking as someone in the outer circle (I'm on the private lists, but don't get to change the code) I think that the problem is that none one will commit a patch that they don't understand. Hi Andrew, So those who send patches should expect

Re: Patches in limbo - was Re: [Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 09:09:25AM +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, J. Imlay wrote: I am just a casual reader on this list so I could be entirly wrong about all this. I've read the thread that you started last spring, and I've been following this one, and I

Re: Patches in limbo - was Re: [Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Stephen Davies wrote: On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: Speaking as someone in the outer circle (I'm on the private lists, but don't get to change the code) I think that the problem is that none one will commit a patch that they don't understand.

Re: Patches in limbo - was Re: [Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 10:31:10AM +, Stephen Davies wrote: On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: Speaking as someone in the outer circle (I'm on the private lists, but don't get to change the code) I think that the problem is that none one will commit a patch that they

Re: [Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Craig Carey
At 2002\11\01 23:01 -0800 Friday, Michael Toomim wrote: At 2002\11\02 17:22 +1300 Saturday, Craig Carey wrote: Correction: dx' = k1 * * (+1 if dx 0 else -1) dx' = k2 * dx [dx is a C int, dx' is real that is added to a real sum and then later converted into a

Re: [Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread David Dawes
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 11:58:31PM -0800, J. Imlay wrote: I am just a casual reader on this list so I could be entirly wrong about all this. I've read the thread that you started last spring, and I've been following this one, and I sympathize with you on the problems with the acceleration in X

Re: Patches in limbo - was Re: [Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread David Dawes
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 10:31:10AM +, Stephen Davies wrote: So those who send patches should expect some feedback or questions as to our code. I submitted a tdfx driver patch on 7th Oct: Your submission to [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been assigned the sequence number A.1297. I would have

[Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Michael Toomim
Craig Carey wrote: Here are some arguments having considerations of deceleration appear in this thread: Ok, let me rephrase. I'm not saying that what you're saying is irrelevant -- I agree that it needs to be discussed. I was just pointing out that we are talking about two separate things:

[Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Michael Toomim
J. Imlay wrote: I am just a casual reader on this list so I could be entirly wrong about all this. I've read the thread that you started last spring, and I've been following this one, and I sympathize with you on the problems with the acceleration in X (it's down right unusable IMHO) but what

[Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Michael Toomim
J. Imlay wrote: But lambasting people for commenting there opinions on this matter as being off topic (even if they are) doesn't get any of us anywhere. Wow. I didn't think I was lambasting Craig. Craig, I sincerely apologize if I offended you. I *really* didn't mean it to come off that

[Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Michael Toomim
David Dawes wrote: I think the problem in this particular case is lack of agreement about the nature of the pointer accleration problem and/or its solution. If those interested in solving the problem can discuss it here and come to some agreement on what the true nature of the problem is, and

Re: [Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Soeren Sandmann
Michael Toomim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The issue disappeared from the mailing list, but I had some discussion offline with Joe Krahn about it after the mailing list posts that you saw. During that discussion, I communicated with the woman who researched mouse acceleration algorithms at

Re: [Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread joe
Here's what I'm trying to get at: I think that the constant multiplier should be settable with xset, instead of requiring one to modify the Resolution option in XF86Config. [...] This setup works really well for me! The only problem is that it was a bitch to figure out the right values

[Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Michael Toomim
Craig Carey wrote: The XFree86 mouse deceleration function gets dx,dy integers that are small integers in between -1 and +1 quite often. Whatever the function (formula) was, it could be replaced with these two without much change: dx' = k1 * dx * (+1 if dx 0 else -1) dx' = k2 * dx

Re: Patches in limbo - was Re: [Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Georgina O Economou
At 11:49 AM 11/2/2002 -0500, you wrote: On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 10:31:10AM +, Stephen Davies wrote: So those who send patches should expect some feedback or questions as to our code. I submitted a tdfx driver patch on 7th Oct: Your submission to [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been assigned the

[Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Michael Toomim
J. Imlay wrote: But lambasting people for commenting there opinions on this matter as being off topic (even if they are) doesn't get any of us anywhere. Wow. I didn't think I was lambasting Craig. Craig, I sincerely apologize if I offended you. I *really* didn't mean it to come off that

[Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-02 Thread Michael Toomim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You keep saying that the resolution can't be changed without editing the XF86Config file, but the XFree86-Misc extension has made it possible for years to change that setting on the fly. It's just a matter of having a client to interface to that extension and there are

[Xpert]Re: Proposal for mouse speed acceleration settings

2002-11-01 Thread Michael Toomim
Craig Carey wrote: The XFree86 mouse deceleration function gets dx,dy integers that are small integers in between -1 and +1 quite often. Whatever the function (formula) was, it could be replaced with these two without much change: dx' = k1 * dx * (+1 if dx 0 else -1) dx' = k2 * dx