Re: [Xpert]But *why* no vblank?

2002-11-04 Thread Kral Stefan
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You assume wrongly that things must happen in the vertical blanking period. Since the screen is traced from the top on monitors, all an operation has to do to get a flickerfree update, is to not collide with the screen tracing. F.ex. it could draw

Re: [Xpert]But *why* no vblank?

2002-11-04 Thread kim
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You assume wrongly that things must happen in the vertical blanking period. Since the screen is traced from the top on monitors, all an operation has to do to get a flickerfree update, is to not collide with the screen tracing. F.ex. it could

Re: [Xpert]XFree86 gdb for Linux PPC?

2002-11-04 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 02:56, Mark Vojkovich wrote: Is there an XFree86 module-aware version of gdb for Linux PPC someplace? I'm not aware of any binaries, but the patch for current gdb versions is mostly architecture independent. I hope Mike will manage to get it integrated into stock gdb

Re: [Xpert]But *why* no vblank?

2002-11-04 Thread kwall
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 08:39:10AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 10:41:33PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If one knew the time until vblank, one could simply wait that time, and then do a xsync. It could really be that simple. You can't sleep

[Xpert]Re: G200 Xv problems

2002-11-04 Thread Gavin Hamill
I think I have the answer, but I don't really like it :( I ran 'xvinfo' and amongst the interesting things it returned, there was this line: maximum XvImage size: 1024 x 1024 I normally run at 1152x864, so when I dropped back to 1024x768, the lines were MUCH reduced - I could still see

Re: [Xpert]Alan's trident_drv.o for cyberblade -- crashing

2002-11-04 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Thu, Oct 17, 2002 at 07:10:25AM +, sjb wrote: Apparatus wrote: When using this driver (1.0.27) my system seems to hang and the screen displays solid colorful lines like and emergency broadcast test on the television. This occurs while using sdl (both 1.2.4 and 1.2.5) with a video

Re: [Xpert]Trio 64 3D

2002-11-04 Thread Kevin Brosius
Frank v Waveren wrote: On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 07:11:35PM -0500, Kevin Brosius wrote: Have you tried depth 16 and a larger mode, say 800x600? Not that depth 8 shouldn't work, but I'm curious. Also, does your XF86Config file contain a 'set_mclk' parameter (or variant with mclk in it)?

Re: [Xpert]Alan's trident_drv.o for cyberblade -- crashing

2002-11-04 Thread sjb
Alan Hourihane wrote: Can you try 1.0.28 Ooh .. looks good! I've tried it with mplayer on a selection of mpegs and it didn't crash which is a big improvement *8-) I still see a line (or two) of wayward pixels that wrap around the screen boundaries on *some* mpegs .. looks like a mixture of

Re: [Xpert]Alan's trident_drv.o for cyberblade -- crashing

2002-11-04 Thread sjb
sjb wrote: I've tried it with mplayer on a selection of mpegs and it didn't crash which is a big improvement *8-) *bzzzt* Sorry, it's just crashed again leaving the laptop hard locked and displaying a rather fetching horizontally striped pattern on the LCD panel 8-( sjb

[Xpert]Re: Alan's trident_drv.o for cyberblade -- crashing

2002-11-04 Thread Norman Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 / sjb [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Alan Hourihane wrote: | Can you try 1.0.28 [...] | I still see a line (or two) of wayward pixels that wrap around the | screen boundaries on *some* mpegs .. looks like a mixture of overlay | colours and

Re: [Xpert]Alan's trident_drv.o for cyberblade -- crashing

2002-11-04 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 02:32:02PM +, sjb wrote: sjb wrote: I've tried it with mplayer on a selection of mpegs and it didn't crash which is a big improvement *8-) *bzzzt* Sorry, it's just crashed again leaving the laptop hard locked and displaying a rather fetching horizontally

Re: [Xpert]Re: Alan's trident_drv.o for cyberblade -- crashing

2002-11-04 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 09:46:18AM -0500, Norman Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 / sjb [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Alan Hourihane wrote: | Can you try 1.0.28 [...] | I still see a line (or two) of wayward pixels that wrap around the | screen

[Xpert]Re: What is the most powerful, best supported video card?

2002-11-04 Thread Harold Martin
I would prefer OS drivers for reasons other than whether or not I plan to hack on them. What I would really like a pointer to is a data base of recent cards supported natively by X. Thanks, Harold Martin On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 02:48 PM, Georgina Economou wrote: - Original Message

[Xpert]Re: dual headed, dual keyboard...

2002-11-04 Thread Kacper Wysocki
I'm wondering if there is a way to have two distinct X display on two distinct graphic board (say one AGP, one PCI) managed absolutely independently one from the other : i.e. one xdm running for each so that two sessions with two distinct users working at the same time with two

Re: [Xpert]Re: What is the most powerful, best supported video card?

2002-11-04 Thread kwall
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 09:06:05AM -0700, Harold Martin wrote: I would prefer OS drivers for reasons other than whether or not I plan to hack on them. What I would really like a pointer to is a data base of recent cards supported natively by X. http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.0/Status.html Kurt

Re: [Xpert]Trio 64 3D

2002-11-04 Thread Frank v Waveren
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 08:38:35AM -0500, Kevin Brosius wrote: Excellent. So as far as you can tell the Trio 64 3D works in 4.2.0? I haven't had any reports about it for a while, so it's good to hear it's okay. Well, mode changing goes paired with ~10 seconds of the screen switching quickling

Re: [Xpert]Re: What is the most powerful, best supported video card?

2002-11-04 Thread Mark Lane
At 10:26 AM 11/4/02, you wrote: On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 09:06:05AM -0700, Harold Martin wrote: I would prefer OS drivers for reasons other than whether or not I plan to hack on them. What I would really like a pointer to is a data base of recent cards supported natively by X.

[Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation,

2002-11-04 Thread Luugi Marsan
Hi, There's a problem when validating a given mode. The board I have has 256 megs and it fails crying that it has insufficient memory for the given mode. This happens because the videoRam in bits is equal to 2^31 ( 256 megs). The number passes the numerical limit of an int. I believe that

RE: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation,

2002-11-04 Thread Alexander Stohr
Title: RE: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation, sorry, but your number theory has some error. 2^1 = 2 (1 bit, counting from 0 to 1 = 2 values) 2^2 = 4 (2 bits, counting from 0 to 3 = 4 values) 2^4 = 8 (3 bits counting from 0 to 7 = 8 values) [...] 2^31 = 2 GB 2^32 = 4 GB an integer

[Xpert]Re: Alan's trident_drv.o for cyberblade -- crashing

2002-11-04 Thread Norman Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 / Alan Hourihane [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | Is this related only to playing mpegs, or might 1.0.28 actually | improve the general wrap around problem seen on a number of LCD | panels? | | What sized panel ? | | Have you tried | |

Re: [Xpert]nv driver crash on nForce

2002-11-04 Thread Mikkel Lauritsen
On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 22:26, Mark Vojkovich wrote: On 3 Nov 2002, Mikkel Lauritsen wrote: --- snip --- As mentioned in RedHat bug 75018, Mike Harris has a new build from CVS at ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris . This build fixes the nForce crash but introduces a new bug where (at least)

Re: [Xpert]nv driver crash on nForce

2002-11-04 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On 4 Nov 2002, Mikkel Lauritsen wrote: On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 22:26, Mark Vojkovich wrote: On 3 Nov 2002, Mikkel Lauritsen wrote: --- snip --- As mentioned in RedHat bug 75018, Mike Harris has a new build from CVS at ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris . This build fixes the nForce crash

Re: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation,

2002-11-04 Thread Luugi Marsan
I understand, but 256 megs = 256 * 1024 * 1024* 8 bits = 2^ 31 bits= 2147483648. The Xserver calculates the memory in bits when validating the mode. Luugi Alexander Stohr wrote: RE: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation, sorry, but your number theory has some error. 2^1 = 2 (1

Re: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation,

2002-11-04 Thread Marc Aurele La France
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Luugi Marsan wrote: There's a problem when validating a given mode. The board I have has 256 megs and it fails crying that it has insufficient memory for the given mode. This happens because the videoRam in bits is equal to 2^31 ( 256 megs). The number

RE: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation,

2002-11-04 Thread Alexander Stohr
Title: RE: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation, and thats with boards that can handle bus width with chunks of 256 bit = 32 byte per access cylce. i think i do generally object to using signed numbers for ordinal values. ;-) if there is really a limitiation, then its the question if

[Xpert]Reinstalling XFree86

2002-11-04 Thread Sudhaker P
Hi All, I'm a newbie to this list. I'd appreciate if you gurus can help me reinstall Xfree86 by telling me which RPMs I need to reinstall since I think my X-Windows in broken. Thanks, Peram _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com

Re: [Xpert]nv driver crash on nForce

2002-11-04 Thread Jonny.Strom
Mikkel Lauritsen wrote: On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 22:26, Mark Vojkovich wrote: On 3 Nov 2002, Mikkel Lauritsen wrote: --- snip --- As mentioned in RedHat bug 75018, Mike Harris has a new build from CVS at ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris . This build fixes the nForce crash but introduces a new

Re: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation,

2002-11-04 Thread Luugi Marsan
Marc Aurele La France wrote: On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Luugi Marsan wrote: There's a problem when validating a given mode. The board I have has 256 megs and it fails crying that it has insufficient memory for the given mode. This happens because the videoRam in bits

Re: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation,

2002-11-04 Thread Marc Aurele La France
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Luugi Marsan wrote: I understand, but 256 megs = 256 * 1024 * 1024* 8 bits = 2^ 31 bits= 2147483648. The Xserver calculates the memory in bits when validating the mode. No, it doesn't. apertureSize is in bytes. apertureSize is indeed in bytes, but in xf86Modes.c,

RE: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation,

2002-11-04 Thread Alexander Stohr
Title: RE: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation, Hmm, looks like a limitation of the inital coders knowledge. Nothing to worry about in an OpenSource project where lots of coding youngsters did take part in. The below coding: if (mode-HDisplay * mode-VDisplay *

Re: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation,

2002-11-04 Thread Adam Luter
Why not use math? factor = 1024 * 8 / scrp-fbFormat.bitsPerPixel; if (mode-HDisplay * mode-VDisplay scrp-videoRam * factor) return MODE_MEM; This assumes that scrp-fbFormat.bitsPerPixel is a power of two. Also, really huge monochrome displays are still vunerable. In other words, I would

Re: [Xpert]ATI r128 and documentation

2002-11-04 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Son, 2002-11-03 at 17:03, Aymeric Vincent wrote: Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's also my impression that dualhead support shouldn't be hard to add looking at the radeon driver. In fact, it might be doable without docs, someone even posted a quick'n'dirty but untested

Re: [Xpert]Separate Build Tree

2002-11-04 Thread kwall
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 07:46:35AM -0800, Ian Romanick wrote: On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:29:05PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I confess I haven't researched this much (no googling), but a quick search of the docs didn't reveal the answer, so I'll ask. Is there a way to build XFree86

RE: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation,

2002-11-04 Thread Alexander Stohr
Title: RE: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation, Adam Luter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Why not use math? factor = 1024 * 8 / scrp-fbFormat.bitsPerPixel; if (mode-HDisplay * mode-VDisplay scrp-videoRam * factor) return MODE_MEM; This assumes that scrp-fbFormat.bitsPerPixel

Re: [Xpert]Hooking onto Xserver

2002-11-04 Thread Ricardo Baratto
that'd definitely depend on your code. afaik (conceptually) there's nothing there that's specific to any kind of machine. ricardo At some point in the past you (Anurag Palsule [EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: But will such an approach won't be portable across different platforms, hardware and

Re: [Xpert]256 megs board fails Validation,

2002-11-04 Thread Adam Luter
Well you answered my question. Isn't three going to be the only non-two factor? (Which in my previous email, hadn't thought possible -- I thought 24bpp was treated as 32bpp). Anyway the better way (if still doing factoring) is to use a loop like this: x = mode-HDisplay y = mode-VDisplay z =

RE: [Xpert]Reinstalling XFree86

2002-11-04 Thread peter Fodrek
- Original Message - From: Sudhaker P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:57 PM Subject: [Xpert]Reinstalling XFree86 Hi All, I'm a newbie to this list. I'd appreciate if you gurus can help me reinstall Xfree86 by telling me which RPMs I need to

[Xpert]Controlling Render's appetite for dynamic colormap entries

2002-11-04 Thread Keith Packard
I've implemented a simple configurable mode to control how many colors the Render extension allocates on dynamic indexed visuals (pseudo/gray). Here's the comment I wrote in the code: /* * For dynamic indexed visuals (GrayScale and PseudoColor), these control the * selection of colors

Re: [Xpert]Controlling Render's appetite for dynamic colormapentries

2002-11-04 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le mar 05/11/2002 à 07:05, Keith Packard a écrit : I've implemented a simple configurable mode to control how many colors the Render extension allocates on dynamic indexed visuals (pseudo/gray). [...] This policy is controlled by either a command line option (-render) or an XF86Config

[Xpert]S3 Trio 3d

2002-11-04 Thread Jørn Christensen
Hi I have a Trio 3d vidoe card (4mb) and really really want to get a higher resolution than 1024x768. I've just upgraded to XFree86 4.2.1. The problem is that when I try to set a higher ersolution (16bpp) it only draws a correct width at 1024. The rest (from 1025 to e.g. 1152) is copied from

[Xpert][Fwd: S3 Trio 3d]

2002-11-04 Thread Jørn Christensen
Ooops... forgot one file... -Forwarded Message- From: Jørn Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: S3 Trio 3d Date: 05 Nov 2002 08:52:44 +0100 Hi I have a Trio 3d vidoe card (4mb) and really really want to get a higher resolution than 1024x768. I've just

[Xpert]Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Backing store on Radeon?

2002-11-04 Thread Kevin E Martin
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 06:13:12PM +, Alan Hourihane wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 06:02:49PM +, Alan Hourihane wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 06:53:35PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Don, 2002-10-31 at 18:38, Alan Hourihane wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:30:32 +0100, Michel