Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-12-03 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
KP Applications like the KDE 'klipper' monitor selection contents to save KP them and also perform actions based on them. Right now, this happens by KP having these clients contantly polling the selection. Why can't klipper take the ownership of the selection, as xclipboard does ? (I'm not

Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-12-03 Thread Keith Packard
Around 21 o'clock on Dec 3, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: Why can't klipper take the ownership of the selection, as xclipboard does ? PRIMARY semantics don't really permit that, and it's a large performance problem for some selection types (ever done cutpaste in the gimp?); to fully support

Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-12-02 Thread kwall
On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 10:04:40PM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: Around 21 o'clock on Dec 1, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No joy. :-( Poking around in xc/lib/Imakefile, I saw a conditional with BuildXFixesLibrary, so I added #define BuildXFixesLibrary No to config/cf/host.def and tried make

Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-12-01 Thread James Hawtin
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Keith Packard wrote: Around 3 o'clock on Dec 1, James Hawtin wrote: The only problem with the fixes extension will people use it, as they will have to write the code twice so it supports legancy ie not Xfree86 systems. (thinking of selection tracking here) That's

Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-12-01 Thread James Hawtin
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Keith Packard wrote: Around 0 o'clock on Dec 1, Boris wrote: What XFree *really* needs is much more data compression when sending data to a remote display I'm doing some packet level analysis of this problem; at ethernet speeds, most X applications spend a lot more

Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-12-01 Thread kwall
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 07:29:12PM -0800, Keith Packard wrote: We've been working around various problems with the core X protocol for about 15 years now. I think it's time to build an extension that includes small changes that fix big problems. Cool. [...] I've stuck these features

Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-12-01 Thread Keith Packard
Around 21 o'clock on Dec 1, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No joy. :-( Poking around in xc/lib/Imakefile, I saw a conditional with BuildXFixesLibrary, so I added #define BuildXFixesLibrary No to config/cf/host.def and tried make World again. Still no joy, but the breakage is slightly different:

[Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-11-30 Thread Keith Packard
We've been working around various problems with the core X protocol for about 15 years now. I think it's time to build an extension that includes small changes that fix big problems. Such an extension would be limited to problems with existing core functionality that can be easily fixed in

Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-11-30 Thread James Hawtin
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Keith Packard wrote: 2) Selection Tracking Applications like the KDE 'klipper' monitor selection contents to save them and also perform actions based on them. Right now, this happens by having these clients contantly polling the selection. The proposal is to have a

Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-11-30 Thread Keith Packard
Around 3 o'clock on Dec 1, James Hawtin wrote: The only problem with the fixes extension will people use it, as they will have to write the code twice so it supports legancy ie not Xfree86 systems. (thinking of selection tracking here) That's been the argument against such extensions over the

Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal

2002-11-30 Thread Boris
: Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Keith Packard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Xpert]XFIXES extension proposal Around 3 o'clock on Dec 1, James Hawtin wrote: The only problem with the fixes extension will people use