[Zen] Re: The Seeds of Our Actions

2007-12-20 Thread anatmanwave
---The consequences of action manifest themselves in the moment that action is done. However too often we are too close to subject (ourselves) to see it happening. A criminal who gets away with a crime spends the rest of his life looking over his shoulder form that exact moment. Guy

[Zen] Re: Caveat Emptor

2007-12-20 Thread anatmanwave
---So the question remains. Are you going to change the behavior or continue to revel in it? Seeing the problem and not taking action is unfortunate. Guy In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, cid830 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There you go again, Al... Did you not invite direct email in a prior post?

[Zen] Re: Not Caveat Emptor

2007-12-22 Thread anatmanwave
, Thank you for your responses. Let me ask this question a different way: Can you practice zen without being buddhist? If no, why? If not, why? Thanks...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown uerusuboyo@ wrote: The heart of the subject is the same. anatmanwave

Re: [Zen] Caveat Emptor

2007-12-23 Thread anatmanwave
---Once a Zen monk was weighing flax for sale in the market Another monk approaches and ask,Show me your Zen. First monk replies,This flax weighs six pounds What a direct pointing..Guy In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, anatmanwave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---lol,in the cleaning

Re: [Zen] Caveat Emptor

2007-12-23 Thread anatmanwave
---Maybe it's not as obvious as I thought. The monk clearly showed his practice. Just thought it would supplement the cleaning behind the couch thing Guy In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess you had to be there... anatmanwave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[Zen] Re: Zen Koans

2007-12-23 Thread anatmanwave
---I've taken the time to figure out a few, once you get it it makes perfect sense. The reason they may seem confusing is they attempt to break the patterns of logical thought. In Rinzai they would say use yourHeart mind I believe. Like with the story of the monk and his flax. The answer isn't

[Zen] Re: Zen Koans

2007-12-23 Thread anatmanwave
PROTECTED] wrote: From: anatmanwave ---I've taken the time to figure out a few, once you get it it makes perfect sense. If they make perfect sense then you are not getting it. It is not supposed to make sense or to be logical or to be understandable in any way that you can explain with words

[Zen] Reality

2007-12-23 Thread anatmanwave
If there is something wrong with reality whatever's wrong is not reality Just a thesis, but it fels right. guy Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

[Zen] Re: Zen Koans

2007-12-24 Thread anatmanwave
---Ah, now I see.The way of the Samurai(movies) :p Guy In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: anatmanwave ---And Al, how would you know that? My study of Zen is limited to Japanese samurai movies and especially the Blind Samurai (Zatoichi). I choose

Re: [Zen] Zen Koans

2007-12-27 Thread anatmanwave
--- Just be with the smell of shit till i can get off. This is the reality of the situation. Maybe offer the guy a few kind words, I could only imagine his mortification. Guy In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the old drunk guy sitting next to you on the

Re: [Zen] Zen Koans

2007-12-28 Thread anatmanwave
around. Guy :) In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Robert Kirbo zen2wrk@ wrote: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:34:32 -0800, anatmanwave anatmanwave@ wrote: ---If there is no train what just ran over my foot? Now there is a foot, too? I answer in the reletive, you

[Zen] Re: Are babies enlightened?

2008-01-01 Thread anatmanwave
---Good question. Put me through some real soul searching,lol. Yes, all beings are inherently awakened. It is more a matter of wiping away the dust from our eyes than any attainment. Ego deludes us into a sense of self, but this is an illusion. Dissolving the self disolves the dust. So is it