Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] How to best layout our filesystems

2006-07-27 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello eric, Thursday, July 27, 2006, 4:34:16 AM, you wrote: ek Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello George, Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 7:27:04 AM, you wrote: GW Additionally, I've just putback the latest feature set and bugfixes GW which will be part of s10u3_03. There were some additional

RE: [zfs-discuss] How to best layout our filesystems

2006-07-27 Thread Bennett, Steve
Eric said: For U3, these are the performance fixes: 6424554 full block re-writes need not read data in 6440499 zil should avoid txg_wait_synced() and use dmu_sync() to issue parallelIOs when fsyncing 6447377 ZFS prefetch is inconsistant 6373978 want to take lots of snapshots quickly ('zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to best layout our filesystems

2006-07-27 Thread Gary Combs
For S10U3, RR is 11/13/06 and GA is 11/27/06. Gary Bennett, Steve wrote: Eric said: For U3, these are the performance fixes: 6424554 full block re-writes need not read data in 6440499 zil should avoid txg_wait_synced() and use dmu_sync() to issue parallelIOs when fsyncing

[zfs-discuss] Zones root-fs in ZFS ? (fwd)

2006-07-27 Thread Rich Teer
I saw this question over in zones-discuss and thought the ZFS team could add something useful. If I read the caution right, I'll have to re-think my disk allocation strategy... -- Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member President, Rite Online Inc. Voice: +1 (250) 979-1638 URL:

[zfs-discuss] ZFS vs WAFL positioning

2006-07-27 Thread Praveen Mogili
Hi, I m sure some of you may have heard this already ' ZFS is a reverse engineered WAFL' from NetApp guys. If not, you will soon... Has anyone put together a white paper or a presentation or some bullet points positioning ZFS vs WAFL. S10 and ZFS is opensource is great but If there is some

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zones root-fs in ZFS ? (fwd)

2006-07-27 Thread Eric Schrock
The original reasoning was that we didn't have enough time to validate the behavior of the zone upgrade tools with ZFS as the root filesystem, particularly as these tools (Ashanti, Zulu) are a moving target. Upon closer inspection, we found that this scenario should work with the current upgrade

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zones root-fs in ZFS ? (fwd)

2006-07-27 Thread Matty
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Eric Schrock wrote: The original reasoning was that we didn't have enough time to validate the behavior of the zone upgrade tools with ZFS as the root filesystem, particularly as these tools (Ashanti, Zulu) are a moving target. Upon closer inspection, we found that this

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS needs a viable backup mechanism

2006-07-27 Thread Richard Elling
Timing is everything :-) http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-6612 -- richard Richard Elling wrote: Craig Morgan wrote: Spare a thought also for the remote serviceability aspects of these systems, if customers raise calls/escalations against such systems then our remote support/solution

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs WAFL positioning

2006-07-27 Thread James Dickens
On 7/27/06, Praveen Mogili [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I m sure some of you may have heard this already ' ZFS is a reverse engineered WAFL' from NetApp guys. If not, you will soon... Has anyone put together a white paper or a presentation or some bullet points positioning ZFS vs WAFL. S10

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zones root-fs in ZFS ? (fwd)

2006-07-27 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Eric Schrock wrote: Upon closer inspection, we found that this scenario should work with the current upgrade solution. What will definitely not work is to delegate a ZFS dataset to a local zone, and then place system software (i.e. Solaris package contents) within such a filesystem. This

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supporting ~10K users on ZFS

2006-07-27 Thread Matthew Ahrens
On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 08:20:56PM +0200, Robert Milkowski wrote: btw: I belive it was discussed here before - it would be great if one would automatically convert given directory on zfs filesystem into zfs filesystem (without actually copying all data) Yep, and an RFE filed: 6400399 want zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] This may be a somewhat silly question ...

2006-07-27 Thread Matthew Ahrens
On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 06:30:46PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote: ... but I have to ask. How do I back this up? The following two RFEs would help you out enormously: 6421958 want recursive zfs send ('zfs send -r') 6421959 want zfs send to preserve properties ('zfs send -p') As far as RFEs

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs WAFL positioning

2006-07-27 Thread Richard Elling
From a RAS perspective, ZFS's end-to-end data integrity feature is critical. If the competing file system doesn't have this capability, then they can't play in this sandbox. -- richard ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs WAFL positioning

2006-07-27 Thread Darren Dunham
one more time with the attachment I wouldn't say that either system had Raid-5. Both raid-4 and raid-z have significant differences in how they work from raid-5. Netapp certainly has quotas, but they're not as flexible as ZFS. Can you explain more what you mean by 'Raw device' and 'volume

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs WAFL positioning

2006-07-27 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:17:47AM -0700, Praveen Mogili wrote: S10 and ZFS is opensource is great but If there is some solid material with technical detailsI would really appreciate it. The ZFS on-disk file format is here:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs WAFL positioning

2006-07-27 Thread James Dickens
On 7/27/06, Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one more time with the attachment I wouldn't say that either system had Raid-5. Both raid-4 and raid-z have significant differences in how they work from raid-5. Netapp certainly has quotas, but they're not as flexible as ZFS. Can you

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS compression best-practice?

2006-07-27 Thread Matthew Ahrens
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 03:54:02PM -0400, Christine Tran wrote: - What is the compression algorithm used? It is based on the Lempel-Ziv algorithm. - Is there a ZFS feature that will output the real uncompressed size of the data? The scenario is if they had to move a compressed ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] 6424554

2006-07-27 Thread Fred Zlotnick
Hi Robert, The fix for 6424554 is being backported to S10 and will be available in S10U3, later this year. -- Fred Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello zfs-discuss, Is someone working on a backport (patch) to S10? Any timeframe? begin:vcard fn:Fred Zlotnick n:Zlotnick;Fred org:Sun Microsystems,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Feature proposal: differential pools

2006-07-27 Thread Henk Langeveld
Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since ZFS is COW, can I have a read-only pool (on a central file server, or on a DVD, etc) with a separate block-differential pool on my local hard disk to store writes? This way, the pool in use can be read-write, even if the main pool itself is read-only,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot Disk

2006-07-27 Thread Matthew Ahrens
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 08:17:03PM -0500, Malahat Qureshi wrote: Is there any way to boot of from zfs disk work around ?? Yes, see http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/tabriz?entry=are_you_ready_to_rumble --mat ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] persistent errors - which file?

2006-07-27 Thread Jeff Bonwick
I've a non-mirrored zfs file systems which shows the status below. I saw the thread in the archives about working this out but it looks like ZFS messages have changed. How do I find out what file(s) this is? [...] errors: The following persistent errors have been detected: