Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Self-tuning recordsize

2006-10-23 Thread Roch
Torrey McMahon writes: Reads? Maybe. Writes are an other matter. Namely the overhead associated with turning a large write into a lot of small writes. (Checksums for example.) Jeremy Teo wrote: Hello all, Isn't a large block size a simple case of prefetching? In other words,

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS, home and Linux

2006-10-23 Thread msl
Perfect, thanks for all answers. The solution that Darren has suggested to me, can be implemented even between linux - linux. No more no_root_squash in home directories, what is a bad thing. thanks again. This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool question.

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Krzys, Sunday, October 22, 2006, 8:42:06 PM, you wrote: K I have solaris 10 U2 and I have raidz partition setup on 5 disks, I just added a K new disk and was wondering, can I add another disk to raidz? I was able to add K it to a pool but I do not think it added it to zpool. You can't

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-23 Thread Jeremy Teo
Hello, Shrinking the vdevs requires moving data. Once you move data, you've got to either invalidate the snapshots or update them. I think that will be one of the more difficult parts. Updating snapshots would be non-trivial, but doable. Perhaps some sort of reverse mapping or brute force

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool question.

2006-10-23 Thread Krzys
Awesome, thanks for your help, will there be any way to convert raidz to raidz2? Thanks again for help/ Chris On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Krzys, Sunday, October 22, 2006, 8:42:06 PM, you wrote: K I have solaris 10 U2 and I have raidz partition setup on 5 disks, I

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS RAID-10

2006-10-23 Thread Sanjay Nadkarni
SVM did RAID 0+1 i.e. mirrored entire sub-mirrors. However SVM mirroring did not incur the problem that Richard alludes to, i.e. a single disk failure on a sub-mirror did not take down the entire sub-mirror, because the reads and writes are smart and acted as though it was a RAID 1+0.

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] zpool question.

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Krzys, Monday, October 23, 2006, 5:14:06 PM, you wrote: K Awesome, thanks for your help, will there be any way to convert raidz to K raidz2? No, at there's no such tool right now. -- Best regards, Robertmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[zfs-discuss] ?: cyclical kernel/system processing (approx every 4 minutes)

2006-10-23 Thread Steffen Weiberle
Customer benchmarked an X4600 using UFS on top of VxVM a while back and got consistent performance under heavy load. Now they have put the system into system test, but in the process moved from UFS/VxVM to ZFS. This is 6/06 The are running at approximately 40% idle most of the time, with 10+%

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-23 Thread Darren Dunham
Shrinking the vdevs requires moving data. Once you move data, you've got to either invalidate the snapshots or update them. I think that will be one of the more difficult parts. Updating snapshots would be non-trivial, but doable. Perhaps some sort of reverse mapping or brute force

[zfs-discuss] zone with lofs zfs - why legacy

2006-10-23 Thread Jens Elkner
I've created a zone which should mount the /pool1/flexlm.ulo zfs via lofs: + zfs create pool1/flexlm.ulo + zfs set atime=off pool1/flexlm.ulo + zfs set sharenfs=off pool1/flexlm.ulo + zonecfg -z flexlm ... add fs set dir=/usr/local set special=/pool1/flexlm.ulo set

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS RAID-10

2006-10-23 Thread Richard Elling - PAE
Dennis Clarke wrote: Dennis Clarke wrote: While ZFS may do a similar thing *I don't know* if there is a published document yet that shows conclusively that ZFS will survive multiple disk failures. ?? why not? Perhaps this is just too simple and therefore doesn't get explained well. That is

[zfs-discuss] Migrating vdevs to new pools

2006-10-23 Thread Matty
Howdy, We use VxVM quite a bit at my place of employment, and are extremely interested in moving to ZFS to reduce complexity and costs. One useful feature that is in VxVM that doesn't seem to be in ZFS is the ability to migrate vdevs between pools. This is extremely useful when you want to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Migrating vdevs to new pools

2006-10-23 Thread Richard Elling - PAE
Matty wrote: We use VxVM quite a bit at my place of employment, and are extremely interested in moving to ZFS to reduce complexity and costs. One useful feature that is in VxVM that doesn't seem to be in ZFS is the ability to migrate vdevs between pools. Could you be more specific? Are you

Re: [zfs-discuss] What is touching my filesystems?

2006-10-23 Thread Noël Dellofano
It's also worth it to note that I recently added a '-F' flag to zfs receive for precisely this sort of annoying problem :) I meant to send a heads up to everyone about it but had not gotten to it yet. Basically, when you specify '-F' flag to receive, a zfs rollback and a receive are done

Re: [zfs-discuss] What is touching my filesystems?

2006-10-23 Thread Noël Dellofano
typo:thereshouldn'tbealeading'/'beforesnap1intheexamplebelow.apologies.NoelOnOct23,2006,at2:10PM,NoëlDellofanowrote:#zfs send -i /snap1 /tank/[EMAIL PROTECTED] backup.out ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] zone with lofs zfs - why legacy

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Jens, Monday, October 23, 2006, 7:15:39 PM, you wrote: JE 3) the /pool1/flexlm.ulo property is set to atime=off. Do I need JE to specifiy this option or something similar, when creating the zone? no, you don't. JE 4) Wrt. best performance, only , what should one prefer: add fs:dir or add

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] What is touching my filesystems?

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Noël, I've just had to ask this - your email address is @apple.com and looks like you are actively developing ZFS - does that mean Apple is looking into porting/using ZFS for real? -- Best regards, Robertmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-23 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Jeremy, Monday, October 23, 2006, 5:04:09 PM, you wrote: JT Hello, Shrinking the vdevs requires moving data. Once you move data, you've got to either invalidate the snapshots or update them. I think that will be one of the more difficult parts. JT Updating snapshots would be

Re: [zfs-discuss] Migrating vdevs to new pools

2006-10-23 Thread Darren Dunham
We use VxVM quite a bit at my place of employment, and are extremely interested in moving to ZFS to reduce complexity and costs. One useful feature that is in VxVM that doesn't seem to be in ZFS is the ability to migrate vdevs between pools. Could you be more specific? Are you

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] What is touching my filesystems?

2006-10-23 Thread Noël Dellofano
Hey Robert, No, all the code fixes and features I mentioned before I developed and putback before I left Sun, so no active development is happening or anything. I still like to hang out on the zfs alias though just because I still luv ZFS and want to keep tabs on it even if I'm not at

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS panics with I/O failure

2006-10-23 Thread Darren . Reed
How I managed to make this happen, I'm now no longer sure of. After upgrading my workstation to Solaris 10, Update 2, I could not find any ZFS pools to import where I thought they were. Whether this is due to the partitioning not being correclty preserved or some other problem remains a

[zfs-discuss] Re: zone with lofs zfs - why legacy

2006-10-23 Thread Jens Elkner
'Robert Milkowski wrote:' Hi Robert, Monday, October 23, 2006, 7:15:39 PM, you wrote: JE 3) the /pool1/flexlm.ulo property is set to atime=off. Do I need JE to specifiy this option or something similar, when creating the zone? no, you don't. OK. JE 4) Wrt. best performance, only , what

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing number of disks in a RAID-Z?

2006-10-23 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Jeremy, Monday, October 23, 2006, 5:04:09 PM, you wrote: JT Hello, Shrinking the vdevs requires moving data. Once you move data, you've got to either invalidate the snapshots or update them. I think that will be one of the more difficult parts. JT Updating

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zone with lofs zfs - why legacy

2006-10-23 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Jens Elkner wrote: Yes, I guessed that, but hopefully not that much ... Thinking about it, it would suggest to me (if I need abs. max. perf): the best thing to do is, to create a pool inside the zone and to use zfs on it ? Using a ZFS filesystem within a zone will go just as fast as in the

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: zone with lofs zfs - why legacy

2006-10-23 Thread Jens Elkner
Using a ZFS filesystem within a zone will go just as fast as in the global zone, so there's no need to create multiple pools. So, Robert is actually wrong (at least in theory): using a zfs via add:fs:dir..,type=lofs gives probably less performances than using it via add:dataset:name.