Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Disappearing directories

2006-12-18 Thread Roch - PAE
Was it over NFS ? Was zil_disable set on the server ? If it's yes/yes, I still don't know for sure if that would be grounds for a causal relationship, but I would certainly be looking into it. -r Trevor Watson writes: Anton B. Rang wrote: Were there any errors reported in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Disappearing directories

2006-12-18 Thread Trevor Watson
Roch - PAE wrote: Was it over NFS ? No, local. Was zil_disable set on the server ? Not unless it is set by default. I haven't changed any ZFS params. If it's yes/yes, I still don't know for sure if that would be grounds for a causal relationship, but I would certainly be looking into it.

[zfs-discuss] The size of a storage pool

2006-12-18 Thread Nathalie Poulet (IPSL)
I have a machine with ZFS connected to a SAN. The space of storage increased on the SAN. The order format shows the increase in volume well. But the size of the ZFS pool did not increase. What to make so that zfs takes into account this increase in volume? Thanks, Nathalie.

[zfs-discuss] zfs/fstyp slows down recognizing pcfs formatted floppies

2006-12-18 Thread Jürgen Keil
I've noticed that fstyp on a floppy media formatted with pcfs now needs somewhere between 30 - 100 seconds to find out that the floppy media is formatted with pcfs. E.g. on sparc snv_48, I currently observe this: % time fstyp /vol/dev/rdiskette0/nomedia pcfs 0.01u 0.10s 1:38.84 0.1% zfs's

[zfs-discuss] destroying large file system takes too much time

2006-12-18 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello zfs-discuss, S10U3, one pool with several RAID-Z2 groups, one file system in a pool with one large file (about 16,7TB). Pool was just imported and I issued zfs destroy pool/test. According to zpool iostat there's about 1-3MB/s of reads with 1-2K IOPS. Using iostat I can see about

Re: [zfs-discuss] The size of a storage pool

2006-12-18 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Nathalie, Monday, December 18, 2006, 2:14:29 PM, you wrote: NPI I have a machine with ZFS connected to a SAN. The space of storage NPI increased on the SAN. The order format shows the increase in volume NPI well. But the size of the ZFS pool did not increase. What to make so NPI that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Some ZFS questions

2006-12-18 Thread Christine Tran
Neil Perrin wrote: Having said that I don't think we recommend messing with the transaction group commit timing. Yeah I don't think the customer means to tune it this way either, they were thinking of something like tune_t_fsflushr (is this still in use?) They want to know when the txg

[zfs-discuss] Re: How to get new ZFS Solaris 10 U3 features going from Solaris 10 U2

2006-12-18 Thread David Smith
Thank you to everyone that has replied. It sounds like I have a few options with regards to upgrading or just waiting and patching the current environment. David This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

[zfs-discuss] Thoughts on ZFS Secure Delete - without using Crypto

2006-12-18 Thread Darren J Moffat
[ This is for discussion, it doesn't mean I'm actively working on this functionality at this time or that I might do so in the future. ] When we get crypto support one way to do secure delete is to destroy the key. This is usually a much simpler and faster task than erasing and overwriting

[zfs-discuss] Re: [security-discuss] Thoughts on ZFS Secure Delete - without using Crypto

2006-12-18 Thread James Dickens
On 12/18/06, Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ This is for discussion, it doesn't mean I'm actively working on this functionality at this time or that I might do so in the future. ] When we get crypto support one way to do secure delete is to destroy the key. This is usually a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Thoughts on ZFS Secure Delete - without using Crypto

2006-12-18 Thread Casper . Dik
Darren J Moffat wrote: I think we need 5 distinct places to set the policy: 1) On file delete This would be a per dataset policy. The bleaching would happen in a new transaction group created by the one that did the normal deletion, and would run only if theoriginal

Re: [zfs-discuss] Thoughts on ZFS Secure Delete - without using Crypto

2006-12-18 Thread Darren J Moffat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather than bleaching which doesn't always remove all stains, why can't we use a word like erasing (which is hitherto unused for filesystem use in Solaris, AFAIK) and this method doesn't remove all stains from the disk anyway it just reduces them so they can't be

Re: [zfs-discuss] Some ZFS questions

2006-12-18 Thread Richard Elling
Additional comments below... Christine Tran wrote: Hi, I guess we are acquainted with the ZFS Wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS Customers refer to it, I wonder where the Wiki gets its numbers. For example there's a Sun marketing slide that says unlimited snapshots contradicted

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and ISCSI

2006-12-18 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James W. Abendschan wrote: It took about 3 days to finish during which the T1000 was basically unusable. (during that time, sendmail managed to syslog a few messages about how it was skipping the queue run because the load was at 200 :-) Glup!.

[zfs-discuss] Re: [security-discuss] Thoughts on ZFS Secure Delete - without using Crypto

2006-12-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
IMO: - The hardest problem in the case of bleaching individual files or datasets is dealing with snapshots/clones: - blocks not shared with parent/child snapshots can be bleached with little trouble, of course. - But what about shared blocks? IMO we have two options:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Some ZFS questions

2006-12-18 Thread Torrey McMahon
Christine Tran wrote: And the PowerPath question is important, customer is using PP right now. I haven't heard any powerpath issues. Can you track down what it was GeorgeW mentioned? ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on Mac - new sighting

2006-12-18 Thread Eric Enright
On 12/18/06, Robin Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's been another sighting of ZFS on Mac. The latest developer release of Leopard (Mac OS 10.5) has a dialogue box calling out the Zettabyte File System (ZFS) as an option. The first publication I saw this is a French website called Mac4Ever

[zfs-discuss] Please Help... Production machine migration from ufs to zfs

2006-12-18 Thread Mike Seda
The following is output from getfacl on a ufs filesytem: [EMAIL PROTECTED] maseda]$ getfacl /home/users/ahege/incoming # file: /home/users/ahege/incoming # owner: ahege # group: uncmd user::rwx user:nobody:rwx #effective:rwx group::r-x #effective:r-x mask:rwx other:r-x I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Some ZFS questions

2006-12-18 Thread Christine Tran
Torrey McMahon wrote: I haven't heard any powerpath issues. Can you track down what it was GeorgeW mentioned? Well, the problem is I can't remember. It was during a ZFS TOI class, and perhaps it was that PP tries to be clever by grouping tsx together ... If there's been no PP issue

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and ISCSI

2006-12-18 Thread Torrey McMahon
James W. Abendschan wrote: Once the mirror was synced, I disconnected one of the iSCSI boxes (pulled the ethernet plug from one of the VTraks), did some I/O on the volume, and Solaris paniced. After it rebooted, I did a 'zpool scrub' and the T1000 again went into la-la land while the scrubbing

Re: [zfs-discuss] Please Help... Production machine migration from ufs to zfs

2006-12-18 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Mike Seda wrote: The following is output from getfacl on a ufs filesytem: [EMAIL PROTECTED] maseda]$ getfacl /home/users/ahege/incoming # file: /home/users/ahege/incoming # owner: ahege # group: uncmd user::rwx user:nobody:rwx #effective:rwx group::r-x #effective:r-x

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in a SAN environment

2006-12-18 Thread Torrey McMahon
Al Hopper wrote: On Sun, 17 Dec 2006, Ricardo Correia wrote: On Friday 15 December 2006 20:02, Dave Burleson wrote: Does anyone have a document that describes ZFS in a pure SAN environment? What will and will not work? From some of the information I have been gathering it doesn't

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in a SAN environment

2006-12-18 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Dec 18, 2006, at 16:13, Torrey McMahon wrote: Al Hopper wrote: On Sun, 17 Dec 2006, Ricardo Correia wrote: On Friday 15 December 2006 20:02, Dave Burleson wrote: Does anyone have a document that describes ZFS in a pure SAN environment? What will and will not work? From some of the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in a SAN environment

2006-12-18 Thread Richard Elling
comment far below... Jonathan Edwards wrote: On Dec 18, 2006, at 16:13, Torrey McMahon wrote: Al Hopper wrote: On Sun, 17 Dec 2006, Ricardo Correia wrote: On Friday 15 December 2006 20:02, Dave Burleson wrote: Does anyone have a document that describes ZFS in a pure SAN environment?

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Some ZFS questions

2006-12-18 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Torrey, Monday, December 18, 2006, 8:38:42 PM, you wrote: TM Christine Tran wrote: And the PowerPath question is important, customer is using PP right now. TM I haven't heard any powerpath issues. Can you track down what it was TM GeorgeW mentioned? H...

[zfs-discuss] Re: [security-discuss] Thoughts on ZFS Secure Delete - without using Crypto

2006-12-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 05:44:08PM -0500, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: On Monday, December 18, 2006 11:32:37 AM -0600 Nicolas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say go for both, (a) and (b). Of course, (b) may not be easy to implement. Another option would be to warn the user and set

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in a SAN environment

2006-12-18 Thread Al Hopper
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Torrey McMahon wrote: Al Hopper wrote: On Sun, 17 Dec 2006, Ricardo Correia wrote: On Friday 15 December 2006 20:02, Dave Burleson wrote: Does anyone have a document that describes ZFS in a pure SAN environment? What will and will not work? From some of

[zfs-discuss] Re: [security-discuss] Thoughts on ZFS Secure Delete - without using Crypto

2006-12-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 06:46:09PM -0500, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: On Monday, December 18, 2006 05:16:28 PM -0600 Nicolas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or an iovec-style specification. But really, how often will one prefer this to truncate-and-bleach? Also, the to-be-bleached

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and SE 3511

2006-12-18 Thread Matt Ingenthron
Mike Seda wrote: Basically, is this a supported zfs configuration? Can't see why not, but support or not is something only Sun support can speak for, not this mailing list. You say you lost access to the array though-- a full disk failure shouldn't cause this if you were using RAID-5 on

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS and SE 3511

2006-12-18 Thread Anton B. Rang
I have a Sun SE 3511 array with 5 x 500 GB SATA-I disks in a RAID 5. This 2 TB logical drive is partitioned into 10 x 200GB slices. I gave 4 of these slices to a Solaris 10 U2 machine and added each of them to a concat (non-raid) zpool as listed below: This is certainly a supportable

[zfs-discuss] Re: Mailing list issues (Re: Re: [security-discuss]Thoughts on ZFS Secure Delete- withoutusing Crypto)

2006-12-18 Thread Anton B. Rang
BTW, Jeff's posts to zfs-discuss are being rejected with this message [ ... ] ... while the spam is coming through loud clear. ;-) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org