[zfs-discuss] Read Only Zpool: ZFS and Replication

2007-02-05 Thread Ben Rockwood
I've been playing with replication of a ZFS Zpool using the recently released AVS. I'm pleased with things, but just replicating the data is only part of the problem. The big question is: can I have a zpool open in 2 places? What I really want is a Zpool on node1 open and writable

Re: [zfs-discuss] Project Proposal: Availability Suite

2007-02-05 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Torrey McMahon wrote: Jason J. W. Williams wrote: Hi Jim, Thank you very much for the heads up. Unfortunately, we need the write-cache enabled for the application I was thinking of combining this with. Sounds like SNDR and ZFS need some more soak time together before you

Re: [zfs-discuss] FYI: ZFS on USB sticks (from Germany)

2007-02-05 Thread Constantin Gonzalez
Hi, Artem: Thanks. And yes, Peter S. is a great actor! Christian Mueller wrote: who is peter stormare? (sorry, i'm from old europe...) as usual, Wikipedia knows it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Stormare and he's european too :). Great actor, great movies. I particularly like

[zfs-discuss] snapdir visable recursively throughout a dataset

2007-02-05 Thread Ben Rockwood
Is there an existing RFE for, what I'll wrongly call, recursively visable snapshots? That is, .zfs in directories other than the dataset root. Frankly, I don't need it available in all directories, although it'd be nice, but I do have a need for making it visiable 1 dir down from the dataset

[zfs-discuss] zfs legacy filesystem remounted rw: atime temporary off?

2007-02-05 Thread Jürgen Keil
I have my /usr filesystem configured as a zfs filesystem, using a legacy mountpoint. I noticed that the system boots with atime updates temporarily turned off (and doesn't record file accesses in the /usr filesystem): # df -h /usr Filesystem size used avail capacity Mounted on

Re: [zfs-discuss] Read Only Zpool: ZFS and Replication

2007-02-05 Thread Jim Dunham
Ben, I've been playing with replication of a ZFS Zpool using the recently released AVS. I'm pleased with things, but just replicating the data is only part of the problem. The big question is: can I have a zpool open in 2 places? No. The ability to have a zpool open in two place would

Re: [zfs-discuss] Project Proposal: Availability Suite

2007-02-05 Thread Jim Dunham
Frank, On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Torrey McMahon wrote: Jason J. W. Williams wrote: Hi Jim, Thank you very much for the heads up. Unfortunately, we need the write-cache enabled for the application I was thinking of combining this with. Sounds like SNDR and ZFS need some more soak time together

Re: [zfs-discuss] Read Only Zpool: ZFS and Replication

2007-02-05 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Ben, Monday, February 5, 2007, 9:17:01 AM, you wrote: BR I've been playing with replication of a ZFS Zpool using the BR recently released AVS. I'm pleased with things, but just BR replicating the data is only part of the problem. The big BR question is: can I have a zpool open in 2

Re: [zfs-discuss] snapdir visable recursively throughout a dataset

2007-02-05 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Ben, Monday, February 5, 2007, 11:03:37 AM, you wrote: BR Is there an existing RFE for, what I'll wrongly call, BR recursively visable snapshots? That is, .zfs in directories other than the dataset root. BR Frankly, I don't need it available in all directories, although BR it'd be nice,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Project Proposal: Availability Suite

2007-02-05 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, Jim Dunham wrote: Frank, On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Torrey McMahon wrote: Jason J. W. Williams wrote: Hi Jim, Thank you very much for the heads up. Unfortunately, we need the write-cache enabled for the application I was thinking of combining this with. Sounds like SNDR and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Project Proposal: Availability Suite

2007-02-05 Thread Frank Hofmann
Btw, in case that gets lost between my devil's advocatism: A happy +1 from me for the proposal ! FrankH. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello zfs-discuss, I've patched U2 system to 118855-36. Several zfs related bugs id should be covered between -19 and -36 like HotSpare support. However despite -36 is installed 'zpool upgrade' still claims only v1 and v2 support. Alse there's no zfs promote, etc. /kernel/drv/zfs is

Re: [zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Casper . Dik
Hello zfs-discuss, I've patched U2 system to 118855-36. Several zfs related bugs id should be covered between -19 and -36 like HotSpare support. However despite -36 is installed 'zpool upgrade' still claims only v1 and v2 support. Alse there's no zfs promote, etc. /kernel/drv/zfs is

Re: [zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Robert, Monday, February 5, 2007, 2:26:57 PM, you wrote: RM Hello zfs-discuss, RM I've patched U2 system to 118855-36. Several zfs related bugs id RM should be covered between -19 and -36 like HotSpare support. RM However despite -36 is installed 'zpool upgrade' still claims only

Re: [zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Casper . Dik
Looks like 124205-04 is needed. While I can see it on SunSolve smpatch doesn't show it. Also many ZFS bugs listed in 124205-04 are also listed in 118855-36 while it looks like only 124205-04 is actually covering them and provides necessary binaries. Something is messed up with -36. Sometimes

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Casper, Monday, February 5, 2007, 2:32:49 PM, you wrote: Hello zfs-discuss, I've patched U2 system to 118855-36. Several zfs related bugs id should be covered between -19 and -36 like HotSpare support. However despite -36 is installed 'zpool upgrade' still claims only v1 and v2

Re: [zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Enda O'Connor
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Robert, Monday, February 5, 2007, 2:26:57 PM, you wrote: RM Hello zfs-discuss, RM I've patched U2 system to 118855-36. Several zfs related bugs id RM should be covered between -19 and -36 like HotSpare support. RM However despite -36 is installed 'zpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Enda O'Connor
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Casper, Monday, February 5, 2007, 2:32:49 PM, you wrote: Hello zfs-discuss, I've patched U2 system to 118855-36. Several zfs related bugs id should be covered between -19 and -36 like HotSpare support. However despite -36 is installed 'zpool upgrade'

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Casper, Monday, February 5, 2007, 2:41:28 PM, you wrote: Looks like 124205-04 is needed. While I can see it on SunSolve smpatch doesn't show it. Also many ZFS bugs listed in 124205-04 are also listed in 118855-36 while it looks like only 124205-04 is actually covering them and provides

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Dennis Clarke
/* Warning : soapbox speech ahead */ Something here is broken. As a rule don't trust smpatch. Don't trust the freeware pca either. Either one may or may not include patches that you don't need or they may list patches you do need or seem to need but once you apply them you find your

Re: [zfs-discuss] Read Only Zpool: ZFS and Replication

2007-02-05 Thread Jim Dunham
Robert, Hello Ben, Monday, February 5, 2007, 9:17:01 AM, you wrote: BR I've been playing with replication of a ZFS Zpool using the BR recently released AVS. I'm pleased with things, but just BR replicating the data is only part of the problem. The big BR question is: can I have a zpool open

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Joe Little
On 2/5/07, Robert Milkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Casper, Monday, February 5, 2007, 2:32:49 PM, you wrote: Hello zfs-discuss, I've patched U2 system to 118855-36. Several zfs related bugs id should be covered between -19 and -36 like HotSpare support. However despite -36 is

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs legacy filesystem remounted rw: atime temporary off?

2007-02-05 Thread Chris Kirby
Jürgen Keil wrote: I have my /usr filesystem configured as a zfs filesystem, using a legacy mountpoint. I noticed that the system boots with atime updates temporarily turned off (and doesn't record file accesses in the /usr filesystem): # df -h /usr Filesystem size used avail

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Smith
I'm pretty sure I have a service plan, but smpatch is not returning me the 124205 patch. I'm currently running Solaris 10, update 2. Also, has anyone had problems installing 118855-36 with smpatch? I had issues, and ended up having to install it with patchadd. David On Mon, 2007-02-05 at

Re: [zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Enda O'Connor
Hi 118855-36 is marked interactive and is not installable by automation, or at least should not be installed by smpatch. If you look in the patchpro.download.directory from smpatch get under the dir cache ( if I remember correctly ) you will see a current.zip ( possibly with a time stamp as

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Gary Mills
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 09:20:49AM -0800, David W. Smith wrote: Also, has anyone had problems installing 118855-36 with smpatch? I had issues, and ended up having to install it with patchadd. Apparently, this patch, and probably all future kernel patches, can't be applied with smpatch. The

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs legacy filesystem remounted rw: atime temporary off?

2007-02-05 Thread Juergen Keil
That is, when a zfs legacy filesystem is mounted in read-only mode, and then remounted read/write, atime updates are off: # zfs create -o mountpoint=legacy files/foobar # mount -F zfs -o ro files/foobar /mnt # zfs get atime files/foobar NAME PROPERTY VALUE

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] 118855-36 ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread David W. Smith
Gary, Thanks for the information these kernel type of patches. David On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 11:33 -0600, Gary Mills wrote: On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 09:20:49AM -0800, David W. Smith wrote: Also, has anyone had problems installing 118855-36 with smpatch? I had issues, and ended up having

Re: [zfs-discuss] snapdir visable recursively throughout a dataset

2007-02-05 Thread Dale Ghent
On Feb 5, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Robert Milkowski wrote: I haven't tried it but what if you mounted ro via loopback into a zone /zones/myzone01/root/.zfs is loop mounted in RO to /zones/ myzone01/.zfs I've tried something similar but found out that vfstab is evaluated prior to zpool import,

[zfs-discuss] solaris - ata over ethernet - zfs - HPC

2007-02-05 Thread Kevin Abbey
Hi, I'd like to consider using the coraid products with solaris and ZFS but I need them to work with x86_64 on on generic opteron/amd compatible hardware. Currently the AOE driver is beta for sparc only. I am planning to use the ZFS file system so the raid hardware in the coraid device

Re: [zfs-discuss] solaris - ata over ethernet - zfs - HPC

2007-02-05 Thread Al Hopper
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, Kevin Abbey wrote: Hi, I'd like to consider using the coraid products with solaris and ZFS but I need them to work with x86_64 on on generic opteron/amd compatible hardware. Currently the AOE driver is beta for sparc only. I am ^^^ AOE ??

Re: [zfs-discuss] solaris - ata over ethernet - zfs - HPC

2007-02-05 Thread Erik Trimble
I've got a similar setup in a small ISP I'm helping out. Right now, they use the AOE driver for Linux on both client and server (they don't use a CoRaid box, rather a standard Linux device). It actually works quite well, including failover and hot-migration, when used in conjunction with EVMS.

[zfs-discuss] Advice on a cheap home NAS machine using ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Dave Sneddon
Hi all,br br So I am new here (both using Solaris and also posting on this forum) and I needbr some advice.br I have a plan on making a machine set up as a Network Storage Server and I justbr want some of your recommendations and opinions on how to go about this.br br I do a lot of video

Re: [zfs-discuss] Read Only Zpool: ZFS and Replication

2007-02-05 Thread Jim Dunham
Ben Rockwood wrote: Jim Dunham wrote: Robert, Hello Ben, Monday, February 5, 2007, 9:17:01 AM, you wrote: BR I've been playing with replication of a ZFS Zpool using the BR recently released AVS. I'm pleased with things, but just BR replicating the data is only part of the problem. The big

Re: [zfs-discuss] hot spares - in standby?

2007-02-05 Thread Richard Elling
Torrey McMahon wrote: Richard Elling wrote: Good question. If you consider that mechanical wear out is what ultimately causes many failure modes, then the argument can be made that a spun down disk should last longer. The problem is that there are failure modes which are triggered by a spin up.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Advice on a cheap home NAS machine using ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Richard Elling
Dave Sneddon wrote: For the hardware I was looking at these specs (now these are all listed in Australian dollars. So please convert from US/whatever first before you say Why don't you get this part cheaper at XXX dollars). Affordability is my main concern. I don't want to spend too much. The

[zfs-discuss] Re: Advice on a cheap home NAS machine using ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread Dave Sneddon
Richard Elling wrote:br You might consider some of the mobos with 6 SATA ports, but in any case,br the chipset is somewhat important. There is pretty good support withbr Solaris for NVidia NForce series.br br I had a look for some 6x SATA(2) boards. However they generally have morebr things

Re: [zfs-discuss] Advice on a cheap home NAS machine using ZFS

2007-02-05 Thread mike
I've asked before, but I don't think anyone answered. Do you know of any eSATA based methods of using ZFS right now? My hope was to pick up some one or two 4-port eSATA cards that have port multiplier support, (enabling 5 drives per port, or 20 drives per card) - but it does not look like