[zfs-discuss] Is it possible to create a ZPool on SVM volumes ?

2007-06-13 Thread dudekula mastan
Hi All, Is it possible to create a ZPool on SVM volumes ? What are the limitations for this ? on a solaris machine, how many number of zpools we can create ? Is there any limitation on number of zpools per system ? -Mastahn - Choose the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is it possible to create a ZPool on SVM volumes ?

2007-06-13 Thread James C. McPherson
dudekula mastan wrote: Is it possible to create a ZPool on SVM volumes ? What are the limitations for this ? Not as far as I am aware. libdiskmgmt gets in the way - it protects you. on a solaris machine, how many number of zpools we can create ? Is there any limitation on number of zpools

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] zfs and 2530 jbod

2007-06-13 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Louwtjie, Monday, June 4, 2007, 9:14:26 AM, you wrote: LB On 5/30/07, James C. McPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louwtjie Burger wrote: I know the above mentioned kit (2530) is new, but has anybody tried a direct attached SAS setup using zfs? (and the Sun SG-XPCIESAS-E-Z card, 3Gb

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs and 2530 jbod

2007-06-13 Thread James C. McPherson
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Louwtjie, Monday, June 4, 2007, 9:14:26 AM, you wrote: LB On 5/30/07, James C. McPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louwtjie Burger wrote: I know the above mentioned kit (2530) is new, but has anybody tried a direct attached SAS setup using zfs? (and the Sun

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS Apple WWDC Keynote Absence

2007-06-13 Thread Sunstar Dude
I would suggest that this thread will be moved to an apple-related list since it has nothing to do with zfs anymore. Hmm, I don't know how you figure this has nothing to do with zfs. This is all about zfs and seems to me zfs-discuss is the perfect thread for it. This message posted from

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: ZFS Boot manual setup in b65

2007-06-13 Thread Douglas Atique
Once you switch over to zfs root, adding new hardware should just behave as what you expect on ufs root. Copy /devices and /dev is just a one-time thing (as part of 'installation') to setup the initial zfs root. Ok, but what about the first boot? Why can't /devices and /dev be generated

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS Apple WWDC Keynote Absence

2007-06-13 Thread Claus Guttesen
I would suggest that this thread will be moved to an apple-related list since it has nothing to do with zfs anymore. Hmm, I don't know how you figure this has nothing to do with zfs. This is all about zfs and seems to me zfs-discuss is the perfect thread for it. Because the discussion

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] zfs and 2530 jbod

2007-06-13 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello James, Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 1:06:22 PM, you wrote: JCM Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Louwtjie, Monday, June 4, 2007, 9:14:26 AM, you wrote: LB On 5/30/07, James C. McPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louwtjie Burger wrote: I know the above mentioned kit (2530) is new, but has

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs and 2530 jbod

2007-06-13 Thread James C. McPherson
Robert Milkowski wrote: ... JCM Yes, my team's test plan did include ST2530 array attached JCM to SAS hba. But there's 2530 with RAID controller and SAS external ports. To clarify I was asking about expansion trays without any RAID controllers - just 2530 jbod attached with dual links to a host

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs and 2530 jbod

2007-06-13 Thread James C. McPherson
Robert Milkowski wrote: ... JCM As far as I understand it, I do not think that a plain JCM jbod version of the ST2530 is supported. I believe that JCM a jbod attached to the ST2540 (fc-connected) is supported. If it works it doesn't have to be supported. and practically speaking, I expect

Re: [zfs-discuss] drive displayed multiple times

2007-06-13 Thread Mark J Musante
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Tim Cook wrote: This pool should have 7 drives total, which it does, but for some reason c4d0 is displayed twice. Once as online (which it is), and once as unavail (which it is not). What's the name of the 7th drive? Did you take all the drives from the old system and

[zfs-discuss] Zpools and drive duplication.

2007-06-13 Thread Adam
I have a system that is running Solaris 10 Update 3 TX with 1 zpool and 5 zones. Everything on it is running fine. I take the drive to my disk duplicator and dupe it bit by bit to another drive, put the newly duped drive in the same machine and boot it up everything boots up fine. Then I do a

[zfs-discuss] Few questions about zfs's internal

2007-06-13 Thread Bruno Bonfils
Hello, as the president of the french OSUG [1], I'll give a talk about ZFS and zones at RMLL [2] (libre software meeting) and I have few questions about Jeff Bonwick's slides [3], especially for slide 11. I just want to be sure to understand good, here my understanding: (I hope I'm not

Re: [zfs-discuss] Few questions about zfs's internal

2007-06-13 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Bruno, Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 3:45:07 PM, you wrote: BB Hello, BB as the president of the french OSUG [1], I'll give a talk about BB ZFS and zones at RMLL [2] (libre software meeting) and I have few BB questions about Jeff Bonwick's slides [3], especially for slide 11. BB I just want

[zfs-discuss] Question on clones and rollbacks

2007-06-13 Thread Jason Banham - Consultant Engineer
Hello, I have the following situation: 1) A ZFS filesystem, created with zfs create: - multipack/u01 2) Data created in said filesystem 3) A snapshot taken of this filesystem: - multipack/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 4) A clone filesystem created from the snapshot: - multipack/u09 multipack/u01

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: ZFS Boot manual setup in b65

2007-06-13 Thread Douglas Atique
Hi Lin, A few moments after replying to your post, I had an idea. I had tweaked with almost every part of the script but I couldn't figure out what the difference was between the script and the manual execution. The difference is (as I found later) that when I created the ZFS root fs by

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs and 2530 jbod

2007-06-13 Thread Al Hopper
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, James C. McPherson wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote: ... JCM As far as I understand it, I do not think that a plain JCM jbod version of the ST2530 is supported. I believe that JCM a jbod attached to the ST2540 (fc-connected) is supported. If it works it doesn't have to be

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is it possible to create a ZPool on SVM volumes

2007-06-13 Thread Darren Dunham
dudekula mastan wrote: Is it possible to create a ZPool on SVM volumes ? What are the limitations for this ? Not as far as I am aware. libdiskmgmt gets in the way - it protects you. Should be able to. We've had some threads about ZFS on top of SVM.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is it possible to create a ZPool on SVM volumes ?

2007-06-13 Thread Mark J. Nelson
dudekula mastan wrote: Is it possible to create a ZPool on SVM volumes ? What are the limitations for this ? Not as far as I am aware. libdiskmgmt gets in the way - it protects you. This is incorrect. If you attempt to use the same underlying disks, then libdiskmgmt will protect you.

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X Leopard to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Rick Mann
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Rick Mann wrote: ZFS Readonly implemntation is loaded! Is that a copy-n-paste error, or is that typo in the actual output? It's a typo in the actual output. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X Leopard to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Toby Thain
On 13-Jun-07, at 1:14 PM, Rick Mann wrote: From (http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;? articleID=199903525) ... Croll explained, ZFS is not the default file system for Leopard. We are exploring it as a file system option for high-end storage systems with really large

Re: [zfs-discuss] Few questions about zfs's internal

2007-06-13 Thread Darren Dunham
I just want to be sure to understand good, here my understanding: (I hope I'm not totally wrong ;p) The slide demonstrate how an existing file is modified. The boxes in blue represents the existing data, and the green ones the new data. So when an application wants modified the existing

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X Leopard to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Rick Mann
From (http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=199903525) --- [...] Seeking to clarify a statement made on Monday by Brian Croll, senior director of Mac OS X Product Marketing, to two InformationWeek reporters that Apple's new Leopard operating system would not include

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X Leopard to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Erblichs
Toby Thain, et al, I am guessing here, but to just be able to access the FS data locally without the headaches of verifying FS consistency, write caches, etc. Mitchell Erblich Toby Thain wrote: On 13-Jun-07, at 1:14 PM, Rick Mann

[zfs-discuss] Mac OS X 10.5 read-only support for ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Graham Perrin
Toby Thain wrote: What possible use is read only ZFS? A user of an OS that _does_ support read+write ZFS might, for example, have one spare USB disk/drive. The user may opt for ZFS for that one disk, gaining the benefits of COW, rollback etc.. The user will be able to read (only) that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mac OS X 10.5 read-only support for ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Marko Milisavljevic
The whole read-only business sounds like baloney to me. Read-only ZFS implies that the file system would be created elsewhere - and I don't know if there will be continuing compatibility between Solaris/Linux(FUSE)/FreeBSD implementations - so they would presumably support read-only of Solaris'

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X Leopard to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Robert Smicinski
So you can migrate all your ZFS volumes to HFS+ ;-) Toby Thain [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/13/2007 12:22 PM On 13-Jun-07, at 1:14 PM, Rick Mann wrote: From (http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;? articleID=199903525) ... Croll explained, ZFS is not the default file system for

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs kills box, memory related?

2007-06-13 Thread Mattias Pantzare
2007/6/10, arb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I'm new to OpenSolaris and ZFS so my apologies if my questions are naive! I've got solaris express (b52) and a zfs mirror, but this command locks up my box within 5 seconds: % cmp first_4GB_file second_4GB_file It's not just these two 4GB files, any

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X Leopard to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Frank Cusack
On June 13, 2007 9:14:48 AM -0700 Rick Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From (http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;?articleID=199903 525) ... In a follow-up interview today, Croll explained, ZFS is not the default file system for Leopard. We are exploring it as a file system

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X Leopard to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Frank Cusack
So it's been what, a day (2?) and no one has tried to import a pool on the Leopard beta? -frank ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] fchmod(2) returns ENOSPC on ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Manoj Joseph
Hi, I find that fchmod(2) on a zfs filesystem can sometimes generate errno = ENOSPC. However this error value is not in the manpage of fchmod(2). Here's where ENOSPC is generated. zfs`dsl_dir_tempreserve_impl zfs`dsl_dir_tempreserve_space+0x4e

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Mac OS X Leopard to use ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Toby Thain
On 13-Jun-07, at 4:09 PM, Frank Cusack wrote: On June 13, 2007 9:14:48 AM -0700 Rick Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From (http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;? articleID=199903 525) ... In a follow-up interview today, Croll explained, ZFS is not the default file system

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs and 2530 jbod

2007-06-13 Thread James C. McPherson
Al Hopper wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, James C. McPherson wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote: ... JCM As far as I understand it, I do not think that a plain JCM jbod version of the ST2530 is supported. I believe that JCM a jbod attached to the ST2540 (fc-connected) is supported. If it works it

Re: [zfs-discuss] Question on clones and rollbacks

2007-06-13 Thread Matthew Ahrens
OK, so I get the reason behind this message but I do not understand why we're unmounting the clone filesystem in the first place? This is bug 6472202 'zfs rollback' and 'zfs rename' requires that clones be unmounted. Sorry about that, --matt ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs reports small st_size for directories?

2007-06-13 Thread Matthew Ahrens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe we should rather educate other people that st_size/24 is a bad solution. That's all well and good but fixing all clients, including potentially really old ones, might not be feasible. Being correct doesn't help our customers. To summarize my

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs reports small st_size for directories?

2007-06-13 Thread Eric Schrock
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 05:27:18PM -0700, Matthew Ahrens wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe we should rather educate other people that st_size/24 is a bad solution. That's all well and good but fixing all clients, including potentially really old ones, might not be feasible.

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs and 2530 jbod

2007-06-13 Thread Al Hopper
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, James C. McPherson wrote: Al Hopper wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, James C. McPherson wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote: ... JCM As far as I understand it, I do not think that a plain JCM jbod version of the ST2530 is supported. I believe that JCM a jbod attached to the ST2540

Re: [zfs-discuss] fchmod(2) returns ENOSPC on ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Manoj Joseph wrote: Hi, I find that fchmod(2) on a zfs filesystem can sometimes generate errno = ENOSPC. However this error value is not in the manpage of fchmod(2). Here's where ENOSPC is generated. zfs`dsl_dir_tempreserve_impl zfs`dsl_dir_tempreserve_space+0x4e

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs reports small st_size for directories?

2007-06-13 Thread Ed Ravin
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 05:27:18PM -0700, Matthew Ahrens wrote: To summarize my understanding of this issue: st_size on directories is undefined; apps/libs which do anything other than display it are broken. However, we should avoid exercising this bug in these broken apps if possible.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs reports small st_size for directories?

2007-06-13 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Ed Ravin wrote: As mentioned before, NetBSD's scandir(3) implementation was one. The NetBSD project has fixed this in their CVS. OpenBSD and FreeBSD's scandir() looks like another, I'll have to drop them a line. ... Thanks much for investigating this and pushing for fixes! --matt

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: zfs reports small st_size for directories?

2007-06-13 Thread Ed Ravin
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 09:42:26PM -0400, Ed Ravin wrote: As mentioned before, NetBSD's scandir(3) implementation was one. The NetBSD project has fixed this in their CVS. OpenBSD and FreeBSD's scandir() looks like another, I'll have to drop them a line. I heard from an OpenBSD developer who

Re: [zfs-discuss] fchmod(2) returns ENOSPC on ZFS

2007-06-13 Thread Manoj Joseph
Matthew Ahrens wrote: Manoj Joseph wrote: Hi, I find that fchmod(2) on a zfs filesystem can sometimes generate errno = ENOSPC. However this error value is not in the manpage of fchmod(2). Here's where ENOSPC is generated. zfs`dsl_dir_tempreserve_impl

Re: [zfs-discuss] NFS and Tar/Star Performance

2007-06-13 Thread Siegfried Nikolaivich
On 12-Jun-07, at 9:02 AM, eric kustarz wrote: Comparing a ZFS pool made out of a single disk to a single UFS filesystem would be a fair comparison. What does your storage look like? The storage looks like: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM tankONLINE 0