[zfs-discuss] Recover from Solaris crash

2007-09-20 Thread Tore Johansson
Hi, I am running solaris 10 on ufs and the rest on ZFS. Now has the solaris disk crashed. How can I recover the other ZFS disks? Can I reinstall solaris and recreate the zfs systems without data loss? Tore This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Recover from Solaris crash

2007-09-20 Thread Sanjay Nadkarni
On Sep 20, 2007, at 12:55 AM, Tore Johansson wrote: Hi, I am running solaris 10 on ufs and the rest on ZFS. Now has the solaris disk crashed. How can I recover the other ZFS disks? Can I reinstall solaris and recreate the zfs systems without data loss? Zpool import is your friend.

Re: [zfs-discuss] question about uberblock blkptr

2007-09-20 Thread Roch - PAE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Roch - PAE wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim Mauro wrote: Hey Max - Check out the on-disk specification document at http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/. Page 32 illustration shows the rootbp pointing to a dnode_phys_t

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Solaris 10 Update 4 Patches

2007-09-20 Thread Torrey McMahon
Did you upgrade your pools? zpool upgrade -a John-Paul Drawneek wrote: err, I installed the patch and am still on zfs 3? solaris 10 u3 with kernel patch 120011-14 This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Project proposal: Block selection policy and space map enhancements

2007-09-20 Thread eric kustarz
On Sep 15, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Victor Latushkin wrote: I'm proposing new project for ZFS community - Block Selection Policy and Space Map Enhancements. +1. I wonder if some of this could look into a dynamic policy. For example, a policy that switches when the pool becomes too full.

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Richard Elling
a few comments below... Paul B. Henson wrote: We are looking for a replacement enterprise file system to handle storage needs for our campus. For the past 10 years, we have been happily using DFS (the distributed file system component of DCE), but unfortunately IBM killed off that product and

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread James F. Hranicky
Paul B. Henson wrote: One issue I have is that our previous filesystem, DFS, completely spoiled me with its global namespace and location transparency. We had three fairly large servers, with the content evenly dispersed among them, but from the perspective of the client any user's files were

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Andy Lubel
On 9/20/07 3:49 PM, Paul B. Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Richard Elling wrote: 50,000 directories aren't a problem, unless you also need 50,000 quotas and hence 50,000 file systems. Such a large, single storage pool system will be an outlier... significantly beyond

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Tim Spriggs
Andy Lubel wrote: On 9/20/07 3:49 PM, Paul B. Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Richard Elling wrote: That would also be my preference, but if I were forced to use hardware RAID, the additional loss of storage for ZFS redundancy would be painful. Would anyone

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Gary Mills
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 12:49:29PM -0700, Paul B. Henson wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Richard Elling wrote: 50,000 directories aren't a problem, unless you also need 50,000 quotas and hence 50,000 file systems. Such a large, single storage pool system will be an outlier... significantly

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Dickon Hood
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 16:22:45 -0500, Gary Mills wrote: : You should consider a Netapp filer. It will do both NFS and CIFS, : supports disk quotas, and is highly reliable. We use one for 30,000 : students and 3000 employees. Ours has never failed us. And they might only lightly sue you for

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, James F. Hranicky wrote: This can be solved using an automounter as well. Well, I'd say more kludged around than solved ;), but again unless you've used DFS it might not seem that way. It just seems rather involved, and relatively inefficient to continuously be

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Andy Lubel wrote: Looks like its completely scalable but your boot time may suffer the more you have. Just don't reboot :) I'm not sure if it's accurate, but the SE we were meeting with claimed that we could failover all of the filesystems to one half of the cluster,

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Tim Spriggs wrote: We are in a similar situation. It turns out that buying two thumpers is cheaper per TB than buying more shelves for an IBM N7600. I don't know about power/cooling considerations yet though. It's really a completely different class of storage though,

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Gary Mills wrote: You should consider a Netapp filer. It will do both NFS and CIFS, supports disk quotas, and is highly reliable. We use one for 30,000 students and 3000 employees. Ours has never failed us. We had actually just finished evaluating Netapp before I

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Tim Spriggs
Paul B. Henson wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Tim Spriggs wrote: We are in a similar situation. It turns out that buying two thumpers is cheaper per TB than buying more shelves for an IBM N7600. I don't know about power/cooling considerations yet though. It's really a completely

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS serverproviding NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Dickon Hood wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 16:22:45 -0500, Gary Mills wrote: : You should consider a Netapp filer. It will do both NFS and CIFS, : supports disk quotas, and is highly reliable. We use one for 30,000 : students and 3000 employees. Ours has never failed

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Chris Kirby
Paul B. Henson wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, James F. Hranicky wrote: and due to the fact that snapshots counted toward ZFS quota, I decided Yes, that does seem to remove a bit of their value for backup purposes. I think they're planning to rectify that at some point in the future. We're

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Tim Spriggs wrote: It's an IBM re-branded NetApp which can which we are using for NFS and iSCSI. Ah, I see. Is it comparable storage though? Does it use SATA drives similar to the x4500, or more expensive/higher performance FC drives? Is it one of the models that allows

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Chris Kirby wrote: We're adding a style of quota that only includes the bytes referenced by the active fs. Also, there will be a matching style for reservations. some point in the future is very soon (weeks). :-) I don't think my management will let me run Solaris

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Solaris 10 Update 4 Patches

2007-09-20 Thread John-Paul Drawneek
yep. but it said that the pools were upto date with the system on 3. zpool upgrade says the system just has version 3 also patch 120272-12 has been pulled which 120011-14 depends on yay This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread Tim Spriggs
Paul B. Henson wrote: Is it comparable storage though? Does it use SATA drives similar to the x4500, or more expensive/higher performance FC drives? Is it one of the models that allows connecting dual clustered heads and failing over the storage between them? I agree the x4500 is a sweet

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Solaris 10 Update 4 Patches

2007-09-20 Thread Rob Windsor
John-Paul Drawneek wrote: yep. but it said that the pools were upto date with the system on 3. zpool upgrade says the system just has version 3 also patch 120272-12 has been pulled which 120011-14 depends on yay Yeah, the listed reason -- patch corrupts the snmpd.conf file causing

Re: [zfs-discuss] zoneadm clone doesn't support ZFS snapshots in

2007-09-20 Thread Matthew Flanagan
Mike, I followed your procedure for cloning zones and it worked well up until yesterday when I tried applying the S10U4 kernel patch 12001-14 and it wouldn't apply because I had my zones on zfs :( I'm still figuring out how to fix this other than moving all of my zones onto UFS. Anyone got

Re: [zfs-discuss] zoneadm clone doesn't support ZFS snapshots in

2007-09-20 Thread grant beattie
Matthew Flanagan wrote: Mike, I followed your procedure for cloning zones and it worked well up until yesterday when I tried applying the S10U4 kernel patch 12001-14 and it wouldn't apply because I had my zones on zfs :( I'm still figuring out how to fix this other than moving all of my

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-20 Thread eric kustarz
On Sep 20, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Gary Mills wrote: You should consider a Netapp filer. It will do both NFS and CIFS, supports disk quotas, and is highly reliable. We use one for 30,000 students and 3000 employees. Ours has never failed us. We had