Re: [zfs-discuss] Nexsan SATABeast and ZFS

2009-03-11 Thread Lars-Gunnar Persson
I would like to go back to my question for a second: I checked with my Nexsan supplier and they confirmed that access to every single disk in SATABeast is not possible. The smallest entities I can create on the SATABeast are RAID 0 or 1 arrays. With RAID 1 I'll loose too much disk space

[zfs-discuss] ext4 bug zfs handling of the very same situation

2009-03-11 Thread Thomas Maier-Komor
Hi, there was recently a bug reported against EXT4 that gets triggered by KDE: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/317781 Now I'd like to verify that my understanding of ZFS behavior and implementations is correct, and ZFS is unaffected from this kind of issue. Maybe

Re: [zfs-discuss] ext4 bug zfs handling of the very same situation

2009-03-11 Thread Casper . Dik
The underlying problem with ext4 is that some kde executables do something like this: 1a) open and read data from file x, close file x 1b) open and truncate file x 1c) write data to file x 1d) close file x or 2a) open and read data from file x, close file x 2b) open and truncate file x.new 2c)

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-discuss] ext4 bug zfs handling of the very same situation

2009-03-11 Thread Joerg Schilling
Thomas Maier-Komor tho...@maier-komor.de wrote: there was recently a bug reported against EXT4 that gets triggered by KDE: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/317781 Now I'd like to verify that my understanding of ZFS behavior and implementations is correct, and ZFS is

[zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Blake
I have a H8DM8-2 motherboard with a pair of AOC-SAT2-MV8 SATA controller cards in a 16-disk Supermicro chassis. I'm running OpenSolaris 2008.11, and the machine performs very well unless I start to copy a large amount of data to the ZFS (software raid) array that's on the Supermicro SATA

[zfs-discuss] Export ZFS via ISCSI to Linux - Is it stable for production use now?

2009-03-11 Thread howard chen
Hello, I want to setup an opensolaris for centralized storage server, using ZFS as the underlying FS, on a RAID 10 SATA disks. I will export the storage blocks using ISCSI to RHEL 5 (less than 10 clients, and I will format the partition as EXT3) I want to ask... 1. Is this setup suitable for

Re: [zfs-discuss] Export ZFS via ISCSI to Linux - Is it stable for production use now?

2009-03-11 Thread Darren J Moffat
howard chen wrote: Hello, I want to setup an opensolaris for centralized storage server, using ZFS as the underlying FS, on a RAID 10 SATA disks. I will export the storage blocks using ISCSI to RHEL 5 (less than 10 clients, and I will format the partition as EXT3) I want to ask... 1. Is this

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Marc Bevand
The copy operation will make all the disks start seeking at the same time and will make your CPU activity jump to a significant percentage to compute the ZFS checksum and RAIDZ parity. I think you could be overloading your PSU because of the sudden increase in power consumption... However if

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Blake
I'm working on testing this some more by doing a savecore -L right after I start the copy. BTW, I'm copying to a raidz2 of only 5 disks, not 16 (the chassis supports 16, but isn't fully populated). So far as I know, there is no spinup happening - these are not RAID controllers, just dumb SATA

[zfs-discuss] Import Error - Please Help

2009-03-11 Thread Michael Dupree jr
Okay so for some reason my Opensolaris 106 installation quit booting properly (completely seperate problem). At this point I was still able to boot into safe mode, but not into a normal desktop session. First a disk failed, I replaced this disk with another. The array completely resilvered. I was

Re: [zfs-discuss] Nexsan SATABeast and ZFS

2009-03-11 Thread Moore, Joe
Lars-Gunnar Persson wrote: I would like to go back to my question for a second: I checked with my Nexsan supplier and they confirmed that access to every single disk in SATABeast is not possible. The smallest entities I can create on the SATABeast are RAID 0 or 1 arrays. With RAID 1 I'll

Re: [zfs-discuss] Export ZFS via ISCSI to Linux - Is it stable for production use now?

2009-03-11 Thread howard chen
Hello, On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Darren J Moffat darr...@opensolaris.org wrote: 1. Is this setup suitable for mission critical use now? Yes, why wouldn't it be ? Because I just wonder why some other people are using zfs/fuse on Linux, e.g.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Export ZFS via ISCSI to Linux - Is it stable for production use now?

2009-03-11 Thread Darren J Moffat
howard chen wrote: Hello, On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Darren J Moffat darr...@opensolaris.org wrote: 1. Is this setup suitable for mission critical use now? Yes, why wouldn't it be ? Because I just wonder why some other people are using zfs/fuse on Linux, e.g.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Export ZFS via ISCSI to Linux - Is it stable for production use now?

2009-03-11 Thread Blake
I blogged this a while ago: http://blog.clockworm.com/2007/10/connecting-linux-centos-5-to-solaris.html On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM, howard chen howac...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Darren J Moffat darr...@opensolaris.org wrote: 1. Is this setup suitable

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Remco Lengers
Something is not right in the IO space. The messages talk about vendor ID = 11AB 0x11AB Marvell Semiconductor TMC Research Vendor Id: 0x1030 Short Name: TMC Does fmdump -eV give any clue when the box comes back up? ..Remco Blake wrote: I'm attaching a screenshot of the console just

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Blake
fmdump is not helping much: r...@host:~# fmdump -eV TIME CLASS fmdump: /var/fm/fmd/errlog is empty comparing that screenshot to the output of cfgadm is interesting - looks like the controller(s): r...@host:~# cfgadm -v Ap_Id Receptacle

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Blake
I think that TMC Research is the company that designed the Supermicro-branded controller card that has the Marvell SATA controller chip on it. Googling around I see connections between Supermicro and TMC. This is the card: http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SAT2-MV8.cfm

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Blake
Could the problem be related to this bug: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6793353 I'm testing setting the maximum payload size as a workaround, as noted in the bug notes. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Blake blake.ir...@gmail.com wrote: I think that TMC Research

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Remco Lengers
looks worth a go otherwise: if the boot disk is also off that controller it may be too hosed to write anything to the boot disk hence FMA doesn't see any issue when it comes up. Possible further actions: - Upgrade FW of controller to highest or known working level - Upgrade driver or OS

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Blake
Any chance this could be the motherboard? I suspect the controller. The boot disks are on the built-in nVidia controller. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Remco Lengers re...@lengers.com wrote: - Upgrade FW of controller to highest or known working level I think I have the latest controller

[zfs-discuss] ZFS on a SAN

2009-03-11 Thread Grant Lowe
Hi All, I'm new on ZFS, so I hope this isn't too basic a question. I have a host where I setup ZFS. The Oracle DBAs did their thing and I know have a number of ZFS datasets with their respective clones and snapshots on serverA. I want to export some of the clones to serverB. Do I need to

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on a SAN

2009-03-11 Thread Erik Trimble
I'm not 100% sure what your question here is, but let me give you a (hopefully) complete answer: (1) ZFS is NOT a clustered file system, in the sense that it is NOT possible for two hosts to have the same LUN mounted at the same time, even if both are hooked to a SAN and can normally see that

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on a SAN

2009-03-11 Thread Grant Lowe
Hi Eric, Thanks for the quick response. Then on hostB, the new LUN will need the same amount of disk space for the pool, as on hostA, if I'm understanding you correctly. Correct? Thanks! - Original Message From: Erik Trimble erik.trim...@sun.com To: Grant Lowe

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on a SAN

2009-03-11 Thread Richard Elling
Erik Trimble wrote: I'm not 100% sure what your question here is, but let me give you a (hopefully) complete answer: (1) ZFS is NOT a clustered file system, in the sense that it is NOT possible for two hosts to have the same LUN mounted at the same time, even if both are hooked to a SAN and can

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Richard Elling
Blake wrote: I'm attaching a screenshot of the console just before reboot. The dump doesn't seem to be working, or savecore isn't working. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Blake blake.ir...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working on testing this some more by doing a savecore -L right after I start

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on a SAN

2009-03-11 Thread Erik Trimble
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 13:50 -0700, Grant Lowe wrote: Hi Eric, Thanks for the quick response. Then on hostB, the new LUN will need the same amount of disk space for the pool, as on hostA, if I'm understanding you correctly. Correct? Thanks! I'm assuming you're referring to my second

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Blake
I guess I didn't make it clear that I had already tried using savecore to retrieve the core from the dump device. I added a larger zvol for dump, to make sure that I wasn't running out of space on the dump device: r...@host:~# dumpadm Dump content: kernel pages Dump device:

[zfs-discuss] Trying to determine if this box will be compatible with Opensolaris or Solaris

2009-03-11 Thread mike
http://www.intel.com/products/server/storage-systems/ssr212mc2/ssr212mc2-overview.htm http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/ssr212mc2/index.htm It's hard to use the HAL sometimes. I am trying to locate chipset info but having a hard time...

[zfs-discuss] Why did my zvol shrink ?

2009-03-11 Thread Brian H. Nelson
I'm doing a little testing and I hit a strange point. Here is a zvol (clone) pool1/volclone type volume - pool1/volclone origin pool1/v...@diff1 - pool1/volclone reservation none default pool1/volclone volsize

Re: [zfs-discuss] Trying to determine if this box will be compatible with Opensolaris or Solaris

2009-03-11 Thread mike
Looks like I may have slightly answered my question. I found that it uses the server board S5000PSL, which is in the HCL: http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/systems/details/2944.html It's not listed in the OpenSolaris one, only the Solaris one. I would think something this old (dated 2007)

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on a SAN

2009-03-11 Thread Grant Lowe
Hi Eric, Thanks. That scenario makes sense. I have a better of how to set things up now. It's a three-step process, which I didn't realize. grant - Original Message From: Erik Trimble erik.trim...@sun.com To: Grant Lowe gl...@sbcglobal.net Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on a SAN

2009-03-11 Thread Grant Lowe
Hey Richard, That explanation help clarify things. I have another question, but maybe it'll be a new topic. Basically I would like to export some stuff of vxfs file system on a different host, and import to zfs. Is there a way to do that? grant - Original Message From: Richard

Re: [zfs-discuss] Trying to determine if this box will be compatible with Opensolaris or Solaris

2009-03-11 Thread James C. McPherson
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:55:23 -0700 mike mike...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like I may have slightly answered my question. I found that it uses the server board S5000PSL, which is in the HCL: http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/systems/details/2944.html It's not listed in the OpenSolaris one,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Trying to determine if this box will be compatible with Opensolaris or Solaris

2009-03-11 Thread David Magda
On Mar 11, 2009, at 20:14, mike wrote: http://www.intel.com/products/server/storage-systems/ssr212mc2/ssr212mc2-overview.htm http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/ssr212mc2/index.htm It's hard to use the HAL sometimes. I am trying to locate chipset info but having a hard time...

Re: [zfs-discuss] Trying to determine if this box will be compatible with Opensolaris or Solaris

2009-03-11 Thread mike
doesnt it require java and x11? On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 6:53 PM, David Magda dma...@ee.ryerson.ca wrote: On Mar 11, 2009, at 20:14, mike wrote: http://www.intel.com/products/server/storage-systems/ssr212mc2/ssr212mc2-overview.htm

Re: [zfs-discuss] Trying to determine if this box will be compatible with Opensolaris or Solaris

2009-03-11 Thread David Magda
On Mar 11, 2009, at 21:59, mike wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 6:53 PM, David Magda dma...@ee.ryerson.ca wrote: If you know someone who already has the hardware, you can ask them to run the Sun Device Detection Tool: http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/hcts/device_detect.jsp It runs

[zfs-discuss] User quota design discussion..

2009-03-11 Thread Jorgen Lundman
In the style of a discussion over a beverage, and talking about user-quotas on ZFS, I recently pondered a design for implementing user quotas on ZFS after having far too little sleep. It is probably nothing new, but I would be curious what you experts think of the feasibility of

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Maidak Alexander J
If you're having issues with a disk contoller or disk IO driver its highly likely that a savecore to disk after the panic will fail. I'm not sure how to work around this, maybe a dedicated dump device not on a controller that uses a different driver then the one that you're having issues with?

Re: [zfs-discuss] Why did my zvol shrink ?

2009-03-11 Thread Gavin Maltby
Brian H. Nelson wrote: I'm doing a little testing and I hit a strange point. Here is a zvol (clone) pool1/volclone type volume - pool1/volclone origin pool1/v...@diff1 - pool1/volclone reservation none default

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Blake
My dump device is already on a different controller - the motherboards built-in nVidia SATA controller. The raidz2 vdev is the one I'm having trouble with (copying the same files to the mirrored rpool on the nVidia controller work nicely). I do notice that, when using cp to copy the files to the

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-11 Thread Nathan Kroenert
Hm - Crashes, or hangs? Moreover - how do you know a CPU is pegged? Seems like we could do a little more discovery on what the actual problem here is, as I can read it about 4 different ways. By this last piece of information, I'm guessing the system does not crash, but goes really really