Re: [zfs-discuss] Thin device support in ZFS?

2010-01-03 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Sat, Jan 2 at 22:24, Erik Trimble wrote: In MLC-style SSDs, you typically have a block size of 2k or 4k. However, you have a Page size of several multiples of that, 128k being common, but by no means ubiquitous. I believe your terminology is crossed a bit. What you call a block is

Re: [zfs-discuss] preview of new SSD based on SandForce controller

2010-01-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
David Magda dma...@ee.ryerson.ca wrote: Apple is (sadly?) probably developing their own new file system as well. Well, I still don't understand Apple. Apple likes to get a grant for an indemnification for something that cannot happen in a country with a proper law system. The netapps

[zfs-discuss] Pool import with failed ZIL device now possible ?

2010-01-03 Thread Robert Heinzmann (reg)
Hello list, someone (actually neil perrin (CC)) mentioned in this thread: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2009-December/034340.html that is should be possible to import a pool with failed log devices (with or without data loss ?). / // Has the following error no

[zfs-discuss] zpool i/o failure

2010-01-03 Thread seshu yamajala
Last night I was trying to setup nfs to share a pool. It was working fine until I started to have trouble writing. I did a zpool status to see if everything was ok, and I got this. pool: spool state: UNAVAIL status: One or more devices are faulted in response to IO failures. action: Make

Re: [zfs-discuss] preview of new SSD based on SandForce controller

2010-01-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: On Saturday, January 2, 2010, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Sat, 2 Jan 2010, David Magda wrote: Apple is (sadly?) probably developing their own new file system as well. I assume that you are talking about developing a

Re: [zfs-discuss] preview of new SSD based on SandForce controller

2010-01-03 Thread Juergen Nickelsen
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) writes: The netapps patents contain claims on ideas that I invented for my Diploma thesis work between 1989 and 1991, so the netapps patents only describe prior art. The new ideas introduced with wofs include the ideas on how to use COW

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 -- cfgadm won't create attach point (dsk/xxxx)

2010-01-03 Thread Jeb Campbell
Well it appears that the pci-x version of the card might or might not work with drives bigger than 1TB Attached WD15EADS to ICH9R on motherboard works fine. Jeb -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] preview of new SSD based on SandForce controller

2010-01-03 Thread Frank Cusack
Since there's nothing I love better on a Sunday than a religious OT discussion: On January 2, 2010 8:51:25 PM -0500 Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: On Saturday, January 2, 2010, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: Hardly any Apple users are complaining about the advanced filesytem

Re: [zfs-discuss] $100 SSD = 5x faster dedupe

2010-01-03 Thread Jack Kielsmeier
Are you using the SSD for l2arc or zil or both? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zpool creation best practices

2010-01-03 Thread Mike
Thanks for the response Marion. I'm glad that Im not the only one. :) Message was edited by: mijohnst -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

[zfs-discuss] zpool import -f not forceful enough?

2010-01-03 Thread Dan McDonald
I had to use the labelfix hack (and I had to recompile it at that) on 1/2 of an old zpool. I made this change: /* zio_checksum(ZIO_CHECKSUM_LABEL, zc, buf, size); */ zio_checksum_table[ZIO_CHECKSUM_LABEL].ci_func[0](buf, size, zc); and I'm assuming [0] is the correct

[zfs-discuss] zpool import without mounting

2010-01-03 Thread Mark Bennett
Hi, Is it possible to import a zpool and stop it mounting the zfs file systems, or override the mount paths? Mark. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-USAS-L8i

2010-01-03 Thread Mark Bennett
I have used these cards several UIO capable Supermicro systems and Opensolaris, with the Supermicro storage chassis and up to 30 stata 1Tb disks. With IT mode firmware (non-raid) they are excellent. They usually have the hardware assisted raid firmware by default. The card is designed for the

[zfs-discuss] Restricting smb share to specific interfaces

2010-01-03 Thread Jerome Warnier
Hi, I'm smbsharing ZFS filesystems. I know how to restrict access to it to some hosts (and users), but did not find any way to forbid the smb protocol being advertised on a specific interface (or the other way around, specify the ones I agree with). Is there any other way than setting up a

Re: [zfs-discuss] $100 SSD = 5x faster dedupe

2010-01-03 Thread Jack Kielsmeier
Just l2arc. Guess I can always repartition later. mike On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Jack Kielsmeier jac...@netins.net wrote: Are you using the SSD for l2arc or zil or both? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Thin device support in ZFS?

2010-01-03 Thread Ragnar Sundblad
Eric D. Midama did a very good job answering this, and I don't have much to add. Thanks Eric! On 3 jan 2010, at 07.24, Erik Trimble wrote: I think you're confusing erasing with writing. I am now quite certain that it actually was you who were confusing those. I hope this discussion has

Re: [zfs-discuss] $100 SSD = 5x faster dedupe

2010-01-03 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Jack Kielsmeier wrote: help. It is suggested not to put zil on a device external to the disks in the pool unless you mirror the zil device. This is suggested to prevent data loss if the zil device dies. The reason why it is suggested that the intent log reside in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import without mounting

2010-01-03 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Mark Bennett mark.benn...@public.co.nz wrote: Hi, Is it possible to import a zpool and stop it mounting the zfs file systems, or override the mount paths? Try zpool import -R ... -- Fajar ___ zfs-discuss mailing

Re: [zfs-discuss] Restricting smb share to specific interfaces

2010-01-03 Thread Tim Cook
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Jerome Warnier jwarn...@beeznest.netwrote: Hi, I'm smbsharing ZFS filesystems. I know how to restrict access to it to some hosts (and users), but did not find any way to forbid the smb protocol being advertised on a specific interface (or the other way

Re: [zfs-discuss] $100 SSD = 5x faster dedupe

2010-01-03 Thread Jack Kielsmeier
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Jack Kielsmeier wrote: help. It is suggested not to put zil on a device external to the disks in the pool unless you mirror the zil device. This is suggested to prevent data loss if the zil device dies. The reason why it is suggested that the intent log reside

Re: [zfs-discuss] $100 SSD = 5x faster dedupe

2010-01-03 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 3, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Jack Kielsmeier wrote: With L2arc, no such redundancy is needed. So, with a $100 SSD, if you can get 8x the performance out of your dedup'd dataset, and you don't have to worry about what if the device fails, I'd call that an awesome investment. AFAIK, the

Re: [zfs-discuss] $100 SSD = 5x faster dedupe

2010-01-03 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Michael Herf mbh...@gmail.com wrote: I've written about my slow-to-dedupe RAIDZ. After a week of.waitingI finally bought a little $100 30G OCZ Vertex and plugged it in as a cache. After 2 hours of warmup, my zfs send/receive rate on the pool is

Re: [zfs-discuss] $100 SSD = 5x faster dedupe

2010-01-03 Thread Brendan Gregg - Sun Microsystems
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 08:26:47PM -0800, Richard Elling wrote: On Jan 3, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Jack Kielsmeier wrote: With L2arc, no such redundancy is needed. So, with a $100 SSD, if you can get 8x the performance out of your dedup'd dataset, and you don't have to worry about what if the

[zfs-discuss] rethinking RaidZ and Record size

2010-01-03 Thread matthew patton
I find it baffling that RaidZ(2,3) was designed to split a record-size block into N (N=# of member devices) pieces and send the uselessly tiny requests to spinning rust when we know the massive delays entailed in head seeks and rotational delay. The ZFS-mirror and load-balanced configuration do