Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS write bursts cause short app stalls

2010-01-07 Thread Saso Kiselkov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just tried and didn't help :-(. Regards, - -- Saso Brent Jones wrote: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Saso Kiselkov skisel...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Buffering the writes in the OS would work for me as

[zfs-discuss] 40Gb SSD boot drive

2010-01-07 Thread Al Hopper
With reference to the earlier Kingston part numbers: Desktop Bundle - SNV125-S2BD/40GB Bare drive - SNV125-S2/40GB It looks like Intel has begun to ship a similar (same ??) product as part number: SSDSA2MP040G2R5 model name: Intel X25-V (V = value) see:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding SAS/SATA Backplanes and Connectivity

2010-01-07 Thread Mark Bennett
Thanks Will, I thought it might be an i2c interface port to the psu, but obviously much simpler. I'll probably use a small picaxe micro, since I have a few here have used them before. I used them to 'translate' the replacement fans clock pulse to what the monitoring circuit needed in a few

Re: [zfs-discuss] opensolaris lightweight install

2010-01-07 Thread William D. Hathaway
The OpenSolaris Just enough OS (JeOS) project has been working on making stripped down images available for virtual machines as well as automated installer profiles. See: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+jeos/WebHome for the project home page. Also, a frequently updated blog on the

[zfs-discuss] abusing zfs boot disk for fun and DR

2010-01-07 Thread Ben Taylor
I'm in the process of standing up a couple of t5440's, of which the config will eventually end up in another data center 6k miles from the original config, and I'm supposed to send disks to the data center and we'll start from there (yes, I know how to flar and jumpstart. When the boss says do

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and LiveUpgrade

2010-01-07 Thread Torrey McMahon
Make sure you have the latest LU patches installed. There were a lot of fixes put back in that area within the last six months or so. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] rethinking RaidZ and Record size [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-01-07 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 6, 2010, at 11:09 PM, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 11:00:49PM -0800, Richard Elling wrote: On Jan 6, 2010, at 10:39 PM, Wilkinson, Alex wrote: 0n Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 02:22:19PM -0800, Richard Elling wrote: Rather, ZFS works very nicely with hardware RAID

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Tutorial slides from USENIX LISA09

2010-01-07 Thread Richard Elling
I have posted my ZFS Tutorial slides from USENIX LISA09 on slideshare.net. You will notice that there is no real material on dedup. The reason is that dedup was not yet released when the materials were created. Everything in the slides is publicly known information and, perhaps by chance,

[zfs-discuss] Disks and caches

2010-01-07 Thread Anil
After spending some time reading up on this whole deal with SSD with caches and how they are prone to data losses during power failures, I need some clarifications... When you guys say write cache, do you just really mean the on board cache (for both read AND writes)? Or is there a separate

Re: [zfs-discuss] Disks and caches

2010-01-07 Thread Anil
Also... There is talk about using those cheap disks for rpool. Isn't rpool also prone to a lot of writes, specifically when the /tmp is in a SSD? What's the real reason to making those cheap SSD as a rpool rather than a L2ARC? Basically is everyone saying that SSD without

[zfs-discuss] corrupted error after zpool scrub

2010-01-07 Thread Günther Schmidt
Hi, I got this: gue...@opensolaris:~$ pfexec zpool status -v pool: rpool state: ONLINE status: One or more devices has experienced an error resulting in data corruption. Applications may be affected. action: Restore the file in question if possible. Otherwise restore the

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Web Administration?

2010-01-07 Thread Nick
I was wondering what the future holds for web-based administration of ZFS? In SXCE and prior versions of Solaris, the Sun Management Console or WebConsole is/was used to administer ZFS. However, the Webconsole packages are not part of Opensolaris, and SXCE is supposed to be discontinued at

Re: [zfs-discuss] Disks and caches

2010-01-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Anil wrote: After spending some time reading up on this whole deal with SSD with caches and how they are prone to data losses during power failures, I need some clarifications... When you guys say write cache, do you just really mean the on board cache (for both read AND

Re: [zfs-discuss] Disks and caches

2010-01-07 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 11:07 -0800, Anil wrote: There is talk about using those cheap disks for rpool. Isn't rpool also prone to a lot of writes, specifically when the /tmp is in a SSD? Huh? By default, solaris uses tmpfs for /tmp, /var/run, and /etc/svc/volatile; writes to those filesystems

Re: [zfs-discuss] Disks and caches

2010-01-07 Thread Anil
I *am* talking about situations where physical RAM is used up. So definitely the SSD could be touched quite a bit when used as a rpool - for pages in/out. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Disks and caches

2010-01-07 Thread Richard Elling
On Jan 7, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Anil wrote: I *am* talking about situations where physical RAM is used up. So definitely the SSD could be touched quite a bit when used as a rpool - for pages in/out. In the cases where rpool does not serve user data (eg. home directories and databases are not

Re: [zfs-discuss] corrupted error after zpool scrub

2010-01-07 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Gunther, Are these external USB disks? You could determine what disk problems caused the errors by using the fmdump -eV output. From your output, the scrub is still in progress so maybe these errors will clear up. Or, the objects no longer exist and a subsequent scrub will remove these

Re: [zfs-discuss] corrupted error after zpool scrub

2010-01-07 Thread Victor Latushkin
On Jan 7, 2010, at 23:47, Cindy Swearingen cindy.swearin...@sun.com wrote: Hi Gunther, Are these external USB disks? You could determine what disk problems caused the errors by using the fmdump -eV output. From your output, the scrub is still in progress so maybe these errors will clear

Re: [zfs-discuss] $100 SSD = 5x faster dedupe

2010-01-07 Thread Ian Collins
Marty Scholes wrote: I did something similar, but with a SCSI drive. I keep a large external USB drive as a last ditch recovery pool which is synchronized hourly from the main pool. Kind of like a poor man's tape backup. When I enabled dedup=verify on the USB pool, the sync performance

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Web Administration?

2010-01-07 Thread Lutz Schumann
You could use NexetaStor (www.nexenta.com) which is a commercial storage appliance, however - it based on opensolaris, but it is not just a package to install. Also there is EONStor (www.genunix.org). -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zones on shared storage - a warning

2010-01-07 Thread Mike Gerdts
[removed zones-discuss after sending heads-up that the conversation will continue at zfs-discuss] On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Cindy Swearingen cindy.swearin...@sun.com wrote: Hi Mike, It is difficult to comment on the root cause of this failure since the several interactions of these

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zones on shared storage - a warning

2010-01-07 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Mike, I can't really speak for how virtualization products are using files for pools, but we don't recommend creating pools on files, much less NFS-mounted files and then building zones on top. File-based pool configurations might be used for limited internal testing of some features, but

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Web Administration?

2010-01-07 Thread Günther
hello you can try webadmin application napp-it. it's a s free and end-user configurable perl-cgi script to manage your nexenta (core), eon or opensolaris server via browser. (not only zfs, also user, network, iscsi..). it will support newest features of snv 129 like dedup, zfs3.. see

[zfs-discuss] ZFS upgrade.

2010-01-07 Thread John_Dillon
Hello, Is there a way to upgrade my current ZFS version. I show the version could be as high as 22. I tried the command below. It seems that you can only upgrade by upgrade the OS release. [ilmcoso0vs056:root] / # zpool upgrade -V 16 tank invalid version '16' usage: upgrade

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS upgrade.

2010-01-07 Thread James Lever
Hi John, On 08/01/2010, at 7:19 AM, john_dil...@blm.gov wrote: Is there a way to upgrade my current ZFS version. I show the version could be as high as 22. The version of Solaris you are running only suport ZFS versions up to version 15 as demonstrated by your zfs upgrade -v output. You

[zfs-discuss] link in zpool upgrade -v broken

2010-01-07 Thread Ian Collins
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/version/ No longer exists. Is there a bug for this yet? -- Ian. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] $100 SSD = 5x faster dedupe

2010-01-07 Thread Marty Scholes
Ian wrote: Why did you set dedup=verify on the USB pool? Because that is my last-ditch copy of the data and MUST be correct. At the same time, I want to cram as much data as possible into the pool. If I ever go to the USB pool, something has already gone horribly wrong and I am desperate. I

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS upgrade.

2010-01-07 Thread Brian H. Nelson
James Lever wrote: Is there a way to upgrade my current ZFS version. I show the version could be as high as 22. The version of Solaris you are running only suport ZFS versions up to version 15 as demonstrated by your zfs upgrade -v output. You probably need a newer version of Solaris,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zones on shared storage - a warning

2010-01-07 Thread Edward Pilatowicz
hey mike/cindy, i've gone ahead and filed a zfs rfe on this functionality: 6915127 need full support for zfs pools on files implmenting this rfe is a requirement for supporting encapsulated zones on shared storage. ed On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 03:26:17PM -0700, Cindy Swearingen wrote:

Re: [zfs-discuss] link in zpool upgrade -v broken

2010-01-07 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Ian, The link from the old version page to the new version page should be working. I'll check. The CR is 6898657. In the meantime, the version information can be reached from the right column from this page: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+zfs/ Thanks, Cindy -

Re: [zfs-discuss] $100 SSD = 5x faster dedupe

2010-01-07 Thread Tiernan OToole
Sorry to hijack the thread, but can you explain your setup? Sounds interesting, but need more info... Thanks! --Tiernan On Jan 7, 2010 11:56 PM, Marty Scholes martyscho...@yahoo.com wrote: Ian wrote: Why did you set dedup=verify on the USB pool? Because that is my last-ditch copy of the data

Re: [zfs-discuss] (Practical) limit on the number of snapshots?

2010-01-07 Thread Juergen Nickelsen
Lutz Schumann presa...@storageconcepts.de writes: When importing a pool with many snapshots (which happens during reboot also) the import may take a long time (example: 1 snapshots ~ 1-2 days). I've not tested the new release of Solaris (svn_125++) which fixes this regarding this issue.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Tutorial slides from USENIX LISA09 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-01-07 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 10:49:50AM -0800, Richard Elling wrote: I have posted my ZFS Tutorial slides from USENIX LISA09 on slideshare.net. http://richardelling.blogspot.com/2010/01/zfs-tutorial-at-usenix-lisa09-slides.html Is there a PDF available of this ? -Alex

Re: [zfs-discuss] link in zpool upgrade -v broken

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Ridd
On 7 Jan 2010, at 23:52, Ian Collins wrote: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/version/ No longer exists. Is there a bug for this yet? I don't think so. But http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+zfs/VERSION/ is where they've moved to. Cheers, Chris