Re: [zfs-discuss] Backing up a ZFS pool

2010-01-16 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
What is the best way to back up a zfs pool for recovery? Recover entire pool or files from a pool... Would you use snapshots and clones? I would like to move the backup to a different disk and not use tapes. Personally, I use zfs send | zfs receive to an external disk. Initially a full

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/receive as backup - reliability?

2010-01-16 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
I am considering building a modest sized storage system with zfs. Some of the data on this is quite valuable, some small subset to be backed up forever, and I am evaluating back-up options with that in mind. You don't need to store the zfs send data stream on your backup media. This would be

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL to disk

2010-01-16 Thread Jeffry Molanus
Thx all, I understand now. BR, Jeffry if an application requests a synchronous write then it is commited to ZIL immediately, once it is done the IO is acknowledged to application. But data written to ZIL is still in memory as part of an currently open txg and will be committed to a pool

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool fragmentation issues? (dovecot)

2010-01-16 Thread Damon Atkins
In my previous post I was refering more to mdbox (Multi-dbox) rather than dbox, however I beleive the meta data is store with the mail msg in version 1.x and 2.x meta is not updated within the msg which would be better for ZFS. What I am saying is msg per file which is not updated is better for

Re: [zfs-discuss] Backing up a ZFS pool

2010-01-16 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 07:24 -0500, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: Personally, I use zfs send | zfs receive to an external disk. Initially a full image, and later incrementals. Do these incrementals go into the same filesystem that received the original zfs stream?

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/receive as backup - reliability?

2010-01-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Edward Ned Harvey sola...@nedharvey.com wrote: I am considering building a modest sized storage system with zfs. Some of the data on this is quite valuable, some small subset to be backed up forever, and I am evaluating back-up options with that in mind. You don't need to store the zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/receive as backup - reliability?

2010-01-16 Thread Thomas Burgess
NO, zfs send is not a backup. From a backup, you could restore individual files. Jörg I disagree. It is a backup. It's just not an enterprise backup solution ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

[zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-01-16 Thread Simon Breden
Which consumer-priced 1.5TB drives do people currently recommend? I had zero read/write/checksum errors so far in 2 years with my trusty old Western Digital WD7500AAKS drives, but now I want to upgrade to a new set of drives that are big, reliable and cheap. As of Jan 2010 it seems the price

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-01-16 Thread Freddie Cash
We're in the process of upgrading our storage servers from Seagate RE.2 500 GB and WD 500 GB black drives to WD 1.5 TB green drives (ones with 512B sectors). So far, no problems to report. We've replaced 6 out of 8 drives in one raidz2 vdev so far (1 drive each weekend). re-silver times have

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-01-16 Thread Simon Breden
Which drive model/revision number are you using? I presume you are using the 4-platter version: WD15EADS-00R6B0, but perhaps I am wrong. Also did you run WDTLER.EXE on the drives first, to hasten error reporting times? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/receive as backup - reliability?

2010-01-16 Thread Toby Thain
On 16-Jan-10, at 7:30 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I am considering building a modest sized storage system with zfs. Some of the data on this is quite valuable, some small subset to be backed up forever, and I am evaluating back-up options with that in mind. You don't need to store the zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is the disk a member of a zpool?

2010-01-16 Thread Morten-Christian Bernson
Thanks for the tip both of you. The zdb approach seems viable. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/receive as backup - reliability?

2010-01-16 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au wrote: On 16-Jan-10, at 7:30 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I am considering building a modest sized storage system with zfs. Some of the data on this is quite valuable, some small subset to be backed up forever, and I am

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/receive as backup - reliability?

2010-01-16 Thread Toby Thain
On 16-Jan-10, at 6:51 PM, Mike Gerdts wrote: On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au wrote: On 16-Jan-10, at 7:30 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I am considering building a modest sized storage system with zfs. Some of the data on this is quite valuable, some

[zfs-discuss] I can't seem to get the pool to export...

2010-01-16 Thread Travis Tabbal
r...@nas:~# zpool export -f raid cannot export 'raid': pool is busy I've disabled all the services I could think of. I don't see anything accessing it. I also don't see any of the filesystems mounted with mount or zfs mount. What's the deal? This is not the rpool, so I'm not booted off it or

[zfs-discuss] Snapshot that won't go away.

2010-01-16 Thread Ian Collins
I have a Solaris 10 update 6 system with a snapshot I can't remove. zfs destroy -f snap reports the device as being busy. fuser doesn't shore any process using the filesystem and it isn't shared. I can unmount the filesystem OK. Any clues or suggestions of bigger sticks to hit it with? --

Re: [zfs-discuss] I can't seem to get the pool to export...

2010-01-16 Thread Travis Tabbal
Hmm... got it working after a reboot. Odd that it had problems before that. I was able to rename the pools and the system seems to be running well now. Irritatingly, the settings for sharenfs, sharesmb, quota, etc. didn't get copied over with the zfs send/recv. I didn't have that many