Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing rpool device paths/drivers

2012-10-19 Thread Jim Klimov
Hello all, I have one more thought - or a question - about the current strangeness of rpool import: is it supported, or does it work, to have rpools on multipathed devices? If yes (which I hope it is, but don't have a means to check) what sort of a string is saved into the pool's labels as

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing rpool device paths/drivers

2012-10-19 Thread James C. McPherson
On 19/10/12 04:50 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: Hello all, I have one more thought - or a question - about the current strangeness of rpool import: is it supported, or does it work, to have rpools on multipathed devices? If yes (which I hope it is, but don't have a means to check) what sort of a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing rpool device paths/drivers

2012-10-19 Thread Jim Klimov
Thanks, more Qs below ;) 2012-10-19 11:16, James C. McPherson wrote: if you run /usr/bin/strings over /etc/zfs/zpool.cache, you'll see that not only is the device path stored, but (more importantly) the devid. As an excerpt from my adventurous notebook, which only has an rpool on SAS, I see

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: On 10/18/2012 10:19 PM, Andrew Gabriel wrote: Arne Jansen wrote: We have finished a beta version of the feature. What does FITS stand for? Filesystem Incremental Transport Stream (or Filesystem Independent Transport Stream) Is this an attempt to

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-19 Thread Arne Jansen
On 19.10.2012 10:47, Joerg Schilling wrote: Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: On 10/18/2012 10:19 PM, Andrew Gabriel wrote: Arne Jansen wrote: We have finished a beta version of the feature. What does FITS stand for? Filesystem Incremental Transport Stream (or Filesystem Independent

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-19 Thread Irek Szczesniak
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: We have finished a beta version of the feature. A webrev for it can be found here: http://cr.illumos.org/~webrev/sensille/fits-send/ It adds a command 'zfs fits-send'. The resulting streams can currently only be received

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-19 Thread Arne Jansen
On 19.10.2012 11:16, Irek Szczesniak wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: We have finished a beta version of the feature. A webrev for it can be found here: http://cr.illumos.org/~webrev/sensille/fits-send/ It adds a command 'zfs fits-send'. The

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: Is this an attempt to create a competition for TAR? Not really. We'd have preferred tar if it would have been powerful enough. It's more an alternative to rsync for incremental updates. I really like the send/receive feature and want to make it available

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-19 Thread Arne Jansen
On 19.10.2012 12:17, Joerg Schilling wrote: Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: Is this an attempt to create a competition for TAR? Not really. We'd have preferred tar if it would have been powerful enough. It's more an alternative to rsync for incremental updates. I really like the

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send to older version

2012-10-19 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Ian Collins You have to create pools/filesystems with the older versions used by the destination machine. Apparently zpool create -d -o version=28 you might want to do on the new system...

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing rpool device paths/drivers

2012-10-19 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of James C. McPherson As far as I'm aware, having an rpool on multipathed devices is fine. Even a year ago, a new system I bought from Oracle came with multipath devices for all devices by

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing rpool device paths/drivers

2012-10-19 Thread James C. McPherson
On 19/10/12 09:27 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of James C. McPherson As far as I'm aware, having an rpool on multipathed devices is fine. Even a year ago,

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: On 19.10.2012 12:17, Joerg Schilling wrote: Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: Is this an attempt to create a competition for TAR? Not really. We'd have preferred tar if it would have been powerful enough. It's more an alternative to rsync for

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-19 Thread Arne Jansen
On 19.10.2012 13:53, Joerg Schilling wrote: Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: On 19.10.2012 12:17, Joerg Schilling wrote: Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: Is this an attempt to create a competition for TAR? Not really. We'd have preferred tar if it would have been powerful enough.

[zfs-discuss] looking for slides for basic zfs intro

2012-10-19 Thread Eugen Leitl
Hi, I would like to give a short talk at my organisation in order to sell them on zfs in general, and on zfs-all-in-one and zfs as remote backup (zfs send). Does anyone have a short set of presentation slides or maybe a short video I could pillage for that purpose? Thanks. -- Eugen

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-19 Thread Alexander Block
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: On 19.10.2012 11:16, Irek Szczesniak wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: We have finished a beta version of the feature. A webrev for it can be found here:

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send to older version

2012-10-19 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 19, 2012, at 1:04 AM, Michel Jansens michel.jans...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 10/18/12 21:09, Michel Jansens wrote: Hi, I've been using a Solaris 10 update 9 machine for some time to replicate filesystems from different servers through zfs send|ssh zfs receive. This was done to store

Re: [zfs-discuss] looking for slides for basic zfs intro

2012-10-19 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 19, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: Hi, I would like to give a short talk at my organisation in order to sell them on zfs in general, and on zfs-all-in-one and zfs as remote backup (zfs send). Googling will find a few shorter presos. I have full-day presos on

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing rpool device paths/drivers

2012-10-19 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 19, 2012, at 12:16 AM, James C. McPherson j...@opensolaris.org wrote: On 19/10/12 04:50 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: Hello all, I have one more thought - or a question - about the current strangeness of rpool import: is it supported, or does it work, to have rpools on multipathed devices?

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-19 Thread Matthew Ahrens
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: We have finished a beta version of the feature. A webrev for it can be found here: http://cr.illumos.org/~webrev/sensille/fits-send/ It adds a command 'zfs fits-send'. The resulting streams can currently only be received

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-19 Thread Arne Jansen
On 10/19/2012 09:58 PM, Matthew Ahrens wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net mailto:sensi...@gmx.net wrote: We have finished a beta version of the feature. A webrev for it can be found here: http://cr.illumos.org/~webrev/sensille/fits-send/

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs] portable zfs send streams (preview webrev)

2012-10-19 Thread Tim Cook
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net wrote: On 10/19/2012 09:58 PM, Matthew Ahrens wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Arne Jansen sensi...@gmx.net mailto:sensi...@gmx.net wrote: We have finished a beta version of the feature. A webrev for it can be

Re: [zfs-discuss] vm server storage mirror

2012-10-19 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
Yikes, I'm back at it again, and so frustrated. For about 2-3 weeks now, I had the iscsi mirror configuration in production, as previously described. Two disks on system 1 mirror against two disks on system 2, everything done via iscsi, so you could zpool export on machine 1, and then

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send to older version

2012-10-19 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Richard Elling At some point, people will bitterly regret some zpool upgrade with no way back. uhm... and how is that different than anything else in the software world? No attempt at

Re: [zfs-discuss] vm server storage mirror

2012-10-19 Thread Timothy Coalson
Several times, I destroyed the pool and recreated it completely from backup. zfs send and zfs receive both work fine. But strangely - when I launch a VM, the IO grinds to a halt, and I'm forced to powercycle (usually) the host. A shot in the dark here, but perhaps one of the disks involved

[zfs-discuss] FC HBA for openindiana

2012-10-19 Thread Christof Haemmerle
hi there, i need to connect some old raid subsystems to a opensolaris box via fibre channel. can you recommend any FC HBA? thanx ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] FC HBA for openindiana

2012-10-19 Thread Tim Cook
On Friday, October 19, 2012, Christof Haemmerle wrote: hi there, i need to connect some old raid subsystems to a opensolaris box via fibre channel. can you recommend any FC HBA? thanx __ How old? If its 1gbit you'll need a 4gb or slower hba. Qlogic would be

Re: [zfs-discuss] FC HBA for openindiana

2012-10-19 Thread Christof Haemmerle
Yep i Need. 4 Gig with multipathing if possible. On Oct 19, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: On Friday, October 19, 2012, Christof Haemmerle wrote: hi there, i need to connect some old raid subsystems to a opensolaris box via fibre channel. can you recommend any FC HBA?