Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs-code] Peak every 4-5 second

2008-07-23 Thread Frank . Hofmann
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Tharindu Rukshan Bamunuarachchi wrote: 10,000 x 700 = 7MB per second .. We have this rate for whole day 10,000 orders per second is minimum requirments of modern day stock exchanges ... Cache still help us for ~1 hours, but after that who will help us ...

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS for write-only media?

2008-04-24 Thread Frank . Hofmann
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Daniel Rock wrote: Joerg Schilling schrieb: WOM Write-only media http://www.national.com/rap/files/datasheet.pdf I love this part of the specification: Cooling The 25120 is easily cooled by employment of a six-foot fan, 1/2 from the package. If

Re: [zfs-discuss] rename(2) (mv(1)) between ZFS filesystems in the same zpool

2007-12-31 Thread Frank . Hofmann
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007, Darren Reed wrote: Frank Hofmann wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Darren Reed wrote: [ ... ] Is this behaviour defined by a standard (such as POSIX or the VFS design) or are we free to innovate here and do something that allowed such a shortcut as required? Wrt

Re: [zfs-discuss] rename(2) (mv(1)) between ZFS filesystems in the same zpool

2007-12-28 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Darren Reed wrote: [ ... ] Is this behaviour defined by a standard (such as POSIX or the VFS design) or are we free to innovate here and do something that allowed such a shortcut as required? Wrt. to standards, quote from:

Re: [zfs-discuss] rename(2) (mv(1)) between ZFS filesystems in the same zpool

2007-12-28 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: Frank Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think the standards would prevent us from adding cross-fs rename capabilities. It's beyond the standards as of now, and I'd expect that were it ever added to that it'd be an optional feature as well

Re: [zfs-discuss] rename(2) (mv(1)) between ZFS filesystems in the same zpool

2007-12-28 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: [ ... ] POSIX grants that st_dev and st_ino together uniquely identify a file on a system. As long as neither st_dev nor st_ino change during the rename(2) call, POSIX does not prevent this rename operation. Clarification request: Where's the piece

Re: [zfs-discuss] rename(2) (mv(1)) between ZFS filesystems in the same zpool

2007-12-27 Thread Frank . Hofmann
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would guess that this is caused by different st_dev values in the new filesystem. In such a case, mv copies the files instead of renaming them. No, it's because they are different filesystems and the data needs to be copied; zfs doesn't

Re: [zfs-discuss] [fuse-discuss] Filesystem Community? [was: SquashFS port, interested?]

2007-11-05 Thread Frank . Hofmann
On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Mark Phalan wrote: On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 02:16 -0800, Thomas Lecomte wrote: Hello there - I'm still waiting for an answer from Phillip Lougher [the SquashFS developer]. I had already contacted him some month ago, without any answer though. I'll still write a

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs corruption w/ sil3114 sata controllers

2007-10-30 Thread Frank . Hofmann
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On 10/30/07, Neal Pollack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm experiencing major checksum errors when using a syba silicon image 3114 based pci sata controller w/ nonraid firmware. I've tested by copying data via sftp and smb. With everything I've swapped

Re: [zfs-discuss] UC Davis Cyrus Incident September 2007

2007-10-18 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Mike Gerdts wrote: On 10/18/07, Bill Sommerfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that sounds like a somewhat mangled description of the cross-calls done to invalidate the TLB on other processors when a page is unmapped. (it certainly doesn't happen on *every* update to a mapped

Re: [zfs-discuss] use 32-bit inode scripts on zfs?

2007-10-15 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, Tom Davies wrote: Say for an example of old custom 32-bit perl scripts.Can it work with 128bit ZFS? That question was posted either here or on some other help aliases recently ... If you have any non-largefile-aware application that must under all circumstances be

Re: [zfs-discuss] safe zfs-level snapshots with a UFS-on-ZVOL filesystem?

2007-10-08 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Dick Davies wrote: I had some trouble installing a zone on ZFS with S10u4 (bug in the postgres packages) that went away when I used a ZVOL-backed UFS filesystem for the zonepath. I thought I'd push on with the experiment (in the hope Live Upgrade would be able to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Memory Usage

2007-09-14 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Sergey wrote: I am running Solaris U4 x86_64. Seems that something is changed regarding mdb: # mdb -k Loading modules: [ unix krtld genunix specfs dtrace cpu.AuthenticAMD.15 uppc pcplusmp ufs ip hook neti sctp arp usba fctl nca lofs zfs random nfs sppp crypto ptm ]

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-28 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, Charles DeBardeleben wrote: Are you sure that UFS writes a-time on read-only filesystems? I do not think that it is supposed to. If it does, I think that this is a bug. I have mounted read-only media before, and not gotten any write errors. -Charles I think what

Re: [zfs-discuss] Single SAN Lun presented to 4 Hosts

2007-08-28 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007, David Olsen wrote: On 27/08/2007, at 12:36 AM, Rainer J.H. Brandt wrote: [ ... ] I don't see why multiple UFS mounts wouldn't work, if only one of them has write access. Can you elaborate? Even with a single writer you would need to be concerned with read cache

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with HDS TrueCopy and EMC SRDF

2007-08-03 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Damon Atkins wrote: [ ... ] UFS forcedirectio and VxFS closesync ensure that what ever happens your files will always exist if the program completes. Therefore with Disk Replication (sync) the file exists at the other site at its finished size. When you introduce DR

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with HDS TrueCopy and EMC SRDF

2007-07-26 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Damon Atkins wrote: Guys, What is the best way to ask for a feature enhancement to ZFS. To allow ZFS to be usefull for DR disk replication, we need to be able set an option against the pool or file system or both, called close sync. ie When a programme closes a file

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: gzip compression throttles system?

2007-05-03 Thread Frank Hofmann
I'm not quite sure what this test should show ? Compressing random data is the perfect way to generate heat. After all, compression working relies on input entropy being low. But good random generators are characterized by the opposite - output entropy being high. Even a good compressor, if

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Linux

2007-04-13 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Ignatich wrote: Bart Smaalders writes: Abide by the terms of the CDDL and all is well. Basically, all you have to do is make your changes to CDDL'd files available. What you do w/ the code you built (load it into MVS, ship a storage appliance, build a ZFS for Linux) is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Is there any performance problem with hard links in ZFS?

2007-03-26 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007, Viktor Turskyi wrote: i have tested links performance. and i have got such results: with hardlinks - no problems, reading of 5 files one million times takes 38 seconds in case with symlinks is another situation - reading of 5 files(through symlinks) one million

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Efficiency when reading the same file blocks

2007-02-27 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Jeff Davis wrote: Given your question are you about to come back with a case where you are not seeing this? As a follow-up, I tested this on UFS and ZFS. UFS does very poorly: the I/O rate drops off quickly when you add processes while reading the same blocks from the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is ZFS file system supports short writes ?

2007-02-23 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007, Dan Mick wrote: So, that would be an error, and, other than reporting it accurately, what would you want ZFS to do to support it? It's not an error for write(2) to return with less bytes written than requested. In some situations, that's pretty much expected. Like, for

Re: [zfs-discuss] Implementing fbarrier() on ZFS

2007-02-12 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Peter Schuller wrote: Hello, Often fsync() is used not because one cares that some piece of data is on stable storage, but because one wants to ensure the subsequent I/O operations are performed after previous I/O operations are on stable storage. In these cases the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Implementing fbarrier() on ZFS

2007-02-12 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007, Toby Thain wrote: [ ... ] I'm no guru, but would not ZFS already require strict ordering for its transactions ... which property Peter was exploiting to get fbarrier() for free? It achieves this by flushing the disk write cache when there's need to barrier. Which

Re: [zfs-discuss] Project Proposal: Availability Suite

2007-02-05 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Torrey McMahon wrote: Jason J. W. Williams wrote: Hi Jim, Thank you very much for the heads up. Unfortunately, we need the write-cache enabled for the application I was thinking of combining this with. Sounds like SNDR and ZFS need some more soak time together before you

Re: [zfs-discuss] Project Proposal: Availability Suite

2007-02-05 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, Jim Dunham wrote: Frank, On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Torrey McMahon wrote: Jason J. W. Williams wrote: Hi Jim, Thank you very much for the heads up. Unfortunately, we need the write-cache enabled for the application I was thinking of combining this with. Sounds like SNDR and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Project Proposal: Availability Suite

2007-02-05 Thread Frank Hofmann
Btw, in case that gets lost between my devil's advocatism: A happy +1 from me for the proposal ! FrankH. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] using veritas dmp with ZFS (but not vxvm)

2007-01-03 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Darren Dunham wrote: We have some HDS storage that isn't supported by mpxio, so we have to use veritas dmp to get multipathing. Whats the recommended way to use DMP storage with ZFS. I want to use DMP but get at the multipathed virtual luns at as low a level as possible

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [security-discuss] Thoughts on ZFS Secure Delete - without using Crypto

2006-12-20 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 02:04:37PM +, Darren J Moffat wrote: In case it wasn't clear I am NOT proposing a UI like this: $ zfs bleach ~/Documents/company-finance.odp Instead ~/Documents or ~ would be a ZFS file system with a policy set

Re: [zfs-discuss] Thoughts on ZFS Secure Delete - without using Crypto

2006-12-19 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Jonathan Edwards wrote: On Dec 18, 2006, at 11:54, Darren J Moffat wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather than bleaching which doesn't always remove all stains, why can't we use a word like erasing (which is hitherto unused for filesystem use in Solaris, AFAIK) and

Re: [zfs-discuss] single memory allocation in the ZFS intent log

2006-10-06 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Erblichs wrote: Casper Dik, After my posting, I assumed that a code question should be directed to the ZFS code alias, so I apologize to the people show don't read code. However, since the discussion is here, I will post a code proof here.

Re: [zfs-discuss] x86 CPU Choice for ZFS

2006-07-07 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Darren J Moffat wrote: Eric Schrock wrote: On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:53:32PM +0530, Pramod Batni wrote: offtopic query : How can ZFS require more VM address space but not more VM ? The real problem is VA fragmentation, not consumption. Over time, ZFS's heavy use

Re: [zfs-discuss] Trying to replicate ZFS self-heal demo and not seeing fixed error

2006-05-09 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Darren J Moffat wrote: Paul van der Zwan wrote: I just booted up Minix 3.1.1 today in Qemu and noticed to my surprise that it has a disk nameing scheme similar to what Solaris uses. It has c?d?p?s? note that both p (PC FDISK I assume) and s is used, HP-UX uses the same

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: XATTRs, ZAP and the Mac

2006-05-04 Thread Frank Hofmann
ZFS must support POSIX semantics, part of which is hard links. Hard links allow you to create multiple names (directory entries) for the same file. Therefore, all UNIX filesystems have chosen to store the file information separately for the directory entries (otherwise, you'd have multiple