Re: [zfs-discuss] reliable, enterprise worthy JBODs?

2011-01-25 Thread Marc Nicholas
Rocky, Does DataON manufacture these units or they LSI OEM? -marc Sent from my iPhone 416.414.6271 On 2011-01-25, at 2:53 PM, Rocky Shek roc...@dataonstorage.com wrote: Philip, You can consider DataON DNS-1600 4U 24Bay 6Gb/s SAS JBOD Storage.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ext. UPS-backed SATA SSD ZIL?

2010-11-27 Thread Marc Nicholas
That's a great deck, Chris. -marc Sent from my iPhone On 2010-11-27, at 10:34 AM, Christopher George cgeo...@ddrdrive.com wrote: I haven't had a chance to test a Vertex 2 PRO against my 2 EX, and I'd be interested if anyone else has. I recently presented at the OpenStorage Summit 2010

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal SATA/SAS Controllers for ZFS

2010-05-18 Thread Marc Nicholas
Nice write-up, Marc. Aren't the SuperMicro cards their funny UIO form factor? Wouldn't want someone buying a card that won't work in a standard chassis. -marc On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:26 AM, Marc Bevand m.bev...@gmail.com wrote: The LSI SAS1064E slipped through the cracks when I built the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Loss of L2ARC SSD Behaviour

2010-05-06 Thread Marc Nicholas
Hi Michael, What makes you think striping the SSDs would be faster than round-robin? -marc On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Michael Sullivan michael.p.sulli...@mac.com wrote: Everyone, Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. Well, I actually walked through the source code with an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Loss of L2ARC SSD Behaviour

2010-05-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
The L2ARC will continue to function. -marc On 5/4/10, Michael Sullivan michael.p.sulli...@mac.com wrote: HI, I have a question I cannot seem to find an answer to. I know I can set up a stripe of L2ARC SSD's with say, 4 SSD's. I know if I set up ZIL on SSD and the SSD goes bad, the the ZIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS where to go!

2010-03-26 Thread Marc Nicholas
Richard, My challenge to you is that at least three vedors that I know of built their storage platforms on FreeBSD. One of them sells $4bn/year of product - petty sure that eclipses all (Open)Solaris-based storage ;) -marc On 3/26/10, Richard Elling richard.ell...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 26,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Validating alignment of NTFS/VMDK/ZFS blocks

2010-03-18 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Chris Murray chrismurra...@gmail.comwrote: Good evening, I understand that NTFS VMDK do not relate to Solaris or ZFS, but I was wondering if anyone has any experience of checking the alignment of data blocks through that stack? NetApp has a great little

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can we get some documentation on iSCSI sharing after comstar took over?

2010-03-16 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Svein Skogen sv...@stillbilde.net wrote: Not quite a one liner. After you create the target once (step 3), you do not have to do that again for the next volume. So three lines. So ... no way around messing with guid numbers? I'll write you a Perl script

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can we get some documentation on iSCSI sharing after comstar took over?

2010-03-16 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Svein Skogen sv...@stillbilde.net wrote: I'll write you a Perl script :) I think there are ... several people that'd like a script that gave us back some of the ease of the old shareiscsi one-off, instead of having to spend time on copy-and-pasting GUIDs

[zfs-discuss] [OT] Interesting ranking of MLC SSDs

2010-03-12 Thread Marc Nicholas
Given that quote a few folk ask which is the best SSD?, I thought some folk might find the following interesting: http://www.storagenewsletter.com/news/flash/dramexchange-intel-ssds -marc P.S: Apologies if the slightly off-topic post offends anyone.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Recommendations for an l2arc device?

2010-02-26 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Brandon High bh...@freaks.com wrote: snip The drives I'm considering are: OCZ Vertex 30GB Intel X25V 40GB Crucial CT64M225 64GB Personally, I'd go with the Intel product...but save a few more pennies up and get the X-25M. The extra boost on read and write

Re: [zfs-discuss] Freeing unused space in thin provisioned zvols

2010-02-26 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Lutz Schumann presa...@storageconcepts.dewrote: Now If a virtual machine writes to the zvol, blocks are allocated on disk. Reads are now partial from disk (for all blocks written) and from ZFS layer (all unwritten blocks). If the virtual machine (which may

Re: [zfs-discuss] [indiana-discuss] future of OpenSolaris

2010-02-24 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Troy Campbell troy.campb...@fedex.comwrote: http://www.oracle.com/technology/community/sun-oracle-community-continuity.html Half way down it says: Will Oracle support Java and OpenSolaris User Groups, as Sun has? Yes, Oracle will indeed enthusiastically

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris 2010.03 / snv releases

2010-02-23 Thread Marc Nicholas
Isn't the dedupe bug fixed in svn133? -marc On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Jeffry Molanus jeffry.mola...@proact.nlwrote: There is no clustering package for it and available source seems very old also the de-dup bug is there iirc. So if you don't need HA cluster and dedup.. BR, Jeffry

Re: [zfs-discuss] Import zpool from FreeBSD in OpenSolaris

2010-02-23 Thread Marc Nicholas
send and receive?! -marc On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Thomas Burgess wonsl...@gmail.com wrote: When i needed to do this, the only way i could get it to work was to do this: Take some disks, use a Opensolaris Live CD and label them EFI Create a ZPOOL in FreeBSD with these disks copy my

Re: [zfs-discuss] Abysmal ISCSI / ZFS Performance

2010-02-18 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Matt registrat...@flash.shanje.comwrote: Here's IOStat while doing writes : r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b device 1.0 256.93.0 2242.9 0.3 0.11.30.5 11 12 c0t0d0 0.0 253.90.0 2242.9 0.3 0.11.0

Re: [zfs-discuss] Abysmal ISCSI / ZFS Performance

2010-02-18 Thread Marc Nicholas
Run Bonnie++. You can install it with the Sun package manger and it'll appear under /usr/benchmarks/bonnie++ Look for the command line I posted a couple of days back for a decent set of flags to truly rate performance (using sync writes). -marc On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Matt

[zfs-discuss] Bonnie++ stats

2010-02-16 Thread Marc Nicholas
Anyone else got stats to share? Note: the below is 4*Caviar Black 500GB drives, 1*Intel x-25m setup as both ZIL and L2ARC, decent ASUS mobo, 2GB of fast RAM. -marc r...@opensolaris130:/tank/myfs# /usr/benchmarks/bonnie++/bonnie++ -u root -d /tank/myfs -f -b Using uid:0, gid:0. Writing

Re: [zfs-discuss] Abysmal ISCSI / ZFS Performance

2010-02-10 Thread Marc Nicholas
Definitely use Comstar as Tim says. At home I'm using 4*WD Caviar Blacks on an AMD Phenom x4 @ 1.Ghz and only 2GB of RAM. I'm running svn132. No HBA - onboard SB700 SATA ports.$ I can, with IOmeter, saturate GigE from my WinXP laptop via iSCSI. Can you toss the RAID controller aside an use

Re: [zfs-discuss] Abysmal ISCSI / ZFS Performance

2010-02-10 Thread Marc Nicholas
How does lowering the flush interval help? If he can't ingress data fast enough, faster flushing is a Bad Thibg(tm). -marc On 2/10/10, Kjetil Torgrim Homme kjeti...@linpro.no wrote: Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us writes: On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Frank Cusack wrote: The other three

Re: [zfs-discuss] Abysmal ISCSI / ZFS Performance

2010-02-10 Thread Marc Nicholas
:12 PM, Marc Nicholas geekyth...@gmail.com wrote: How does lowering the flush interval help? If he can't ingress data fast enough, faster flushing is a Bad Thibg(tm). -marc On 2/10/10, Kjetil Torgrim Homme kjeti...@linpro.no wrote: Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us writes: On Wed

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-02-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
I think you'll do just fine then. And I think the extra platter will work to your advantage. -marc On 2/3/10, Simon Breden sbre...@gmail.com wrote: Probably 6 in a RAID-Z2 vdev. Cheers, Simon -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cores vs. Speed?

2010-02-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
I would go with cores (threads) rather than clock speed here. My home system is a 4-core AMD @ 1.8Ghz and performs well. I wouldn't use drives that big and you should be aware of the overheads of RaidZ[x]. -marc On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Brian broco...@vt.edu wrote: I am Starting to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Impact of an enterprise class SSD on ZIL performance

2010-02-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
Very interesting stats -- thanks for taking the time and trouble to share them! One thing I found interesting is that the Gen 2 X25-M has higher write IOPS than the X25-E according to Intel's documentation (6,600 IOPS for 4K writes versus 3,300 IOPS for 4K writes on the E). I wonder if it'd

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cores vs. Speed?

2010-02-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Brian broco...@vt.edu wrote: It sounds like the consensus is more cores over clock speed. Surprising to me since the difference in clocks speed was over 1Ghz. So, I will go with a quad core. Four cores @ 1.8Ghz = 7.2Ghz of threaded performance ([Open]Solaris

Re: [zfs-discuss] Impact of an enterprise class SSD on ZIL performance

2010-02-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Marc Nicholas wrote: Very interesting stats -- thanks for taking the time and trouble to share them! One thing I found interesting is that the Gen 2 X25-M has higher write IOPS than

Re: [zfs-discuss] Impact of an enterprise class SSD on ZIL performance

2010-02-04 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 2010, Marc Nicholas wrote: The write IOPS between the X25-M and the X25-E are different since with the X25-M, much more of your data gets completely lost. Most of us prefer not to lose our

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-02-03 Thread Marc Nicholas
As I previously mentioned, I'm pretty happy with the 500GB Caviar Blacks that I have :) One word of caution: failure and rebuild times with 1TB+ drives can be a concern. How many spindles were you planning? -marc On 2/3/10, Simon Breden sbre...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good. I was taking a

Re: [zfs-discuss] verging OT: how to buy J4500 w/o overpriced drives

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
I agree wholeheartedlyyou're paying to make the problem go away in an expedient manner. That said, I see how much we spend on NetApp storage at work and it makes me shudder ;) I think someone was wondering if the large storage vendors have their own microcode on drives? I can tell you that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Brandon High bh...@freaks.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Simon Breden sbre...@gmail.com wrote: Which consumer-priced 1.5TB drives do people currently recommend? I happened to be looking at the Hitachi product information, and noticed that the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
I'm running the 500GB models myself, but I wouldn't say they're overly noisyand I've been doing ZFS/iSCSI/IOMeter/Bonnie++ stress testing with them. They whine rather than click FYI. -marc On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Simon Breden sbre...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC the Black range are meant

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-02-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Frank Cusack frank+lists/z...@linetwo.netwrote: That said, I doubt 2TB drives represent good value for a home user. They WILL fail more frequently and as a home user you aren't likely to be keeping multiple spares on hand to avoid warranty replacement time.