Re: [zfs-discuss] System started crashing hard after zpool reconfigure and OI upgrade

2013-03-20 Thread Will Murnane
Does the Supermicro IPMI show anything when it crashes? Does anything show up in event logs in the BIOS, or in system logs under OI? On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Peter Wood peterwood...@gmail.com wrote: I have two identical Supermicro boxes with 32GB ram. Hardware details at the end of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Compatibility of Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 HDS723030ALA640 with ZFS

2012-03-06 Thread Will Murnane
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 05:40, Koopmann, Jan-Peter jan-pe...@koopmann.eu wrote: Hi Brandon, On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:52 AM, luis Johnstone l...@luisjohnstone.com wrote: As far as I can tell, the Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 (HDS723030ALA640) uses 512B sectors and so I presume does not suffer

Re: [zfs-discuss] grrr, How to get rid of mis-touched file named `-c'

2011-11-23 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 14:43, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Somehow I touched some rather peculiar file names in ~.  Experimenting with something I've now forgotten I guess. Anyway I now have 3 zero length files with names -O, -c, -k. I've tried as many styles of escaping as I

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs sync=disabled property

2011-11-10 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 14:12, Tomas Forsman st...@acc.umu.se wrote: On 10 November, 2011 - Bob Friesenhahn sent me these 1,6K bytes: On Wed, 9 Nov 2011, Tomas Forsman wrote: At all times, if there's a server crash, ZFS will come back along at next boot or mount, and the filesystem will be in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Suggested RaidZ configuration...

2010-09-09 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 09:03, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@oracle.com wrote: Actually, your biggest bottleneck will be the IOPS limits of the drives.  A 7200RPM SATA drive tops out at 100 IOPS.  Yup. That's it. So, if you need to do 62.5e6 IOPS, and the rebuild drive can do just 100 IOPS, that

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

2010-08-16 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 21:58, Kishore Kumar Pusukuri kish...@cs.ucr.edu wrote: Hi, I am surprised with the performances of some 64-bit multi-threaded applications on my AMD Opteron machine. For most of the applications, the performance of 32-bit version is almost same as the performance of

Re: [zfs-discuss] dedup accounting anomaly / dedup experiments

2010-07-02 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 04:33, Lutz Schumann presa...@storageconcepts.de wrote: Hello list, I wanted to test deduplication a little and did a experiment. My question was:  can I dedupe infinite or is ther a upper limit ? So for that I did a very basic test. -  I created a ramdisk-pool (1GB)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal SATA/SAS Controllers for ZFS

2010-05-27 Thread Will Murnane
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 00:56, Marc Bevand m.bev...@gmail.com wrote: Giovanni Tirloni gtirloni at sysdroid.com writes: The chassis has 4 columns of 6 disks. The 18 disks I was testing were all on columns #1 #2 #3. Good, so this confirms my estimations. I know you said the current ~810 MB/s

Re: [zfs-discuss] mirror resilver @500k/s

2010-05-14 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 16:51, Oliver Seidel o...@os1.net wrote: Hello, I'm a grown-up and willing to read, but I can't find where to read.  Please point me to the place that explains how I can diagnose this situation: adding a mirror to a disk fills the mirror with an apparent rate of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large size variations - what is canonical method

2010-04-18 Thread Will Murnane
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 20:08, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Seems like you can get some pretty large discrepancies in sizes of pools. and directories. They all answer different things, sure, but they're all things that an administrator might want to know. zpool list How many bytes

Re: [zfs-discuss] Why would zfs have too many errors when underlying raid array is fine?

2010-04-11 Thread Will Murnane
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 23:59, Willard Korfhage opensola...@familyk.org wrote: I'm struggling to get a reliable OpenSolaris system on a file server. I'm running an Asus P5BV-C/4L server motherboard, 4GB ECC ram, an E3110 processor, and an Areca 1230 with 12 1-TB disks attached. In a previous

[zfs-discuss] Locking snapshots when using zfs send

2010-04-07 Thread Will Murnane
I just bought a new set of disks, and want to move my primary data store over to the new disks. I created a new pool fine, and now I'm trying to use zfs send -R | zfs receive to transfer the data. Here's the error I got: $ pfexec zfs send -Rpv h...@next | pfexec zfs receive -duvF temp sending

Re: [zfs-discuss] Locking snapshots when using zfs send

2010-04-07 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 17:51, Brandon High bh...@freaks.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Will Murnane will.murn...@gmail.com wrote: This process took about 12 hours to do, so it's frustrating that (apparently) snapshots disappearing causes the replication to fail. Perhaps some sort

Re: [zfs-discuss] Validating alignment of NTFS/VMDK/ZFS blocks

2010-03-18 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 14:44, Chris Murray chrismurra...@gmail.com wrote: Good evening, I understand that NTFS VMDK do not relate to Solaris or ZFS, but I was wondering if anyone has any experience of checking the alignment of data blocks through that stack? It seems to me there's a simple

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Pool problems

2010-02-22 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 15:53, Jeff Freeman freeman.jeff...@verizon.net wrote: Can anyone help wih this - somewhat of a novice here with OpenSolaris and just found these erros.     NAME        STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM vmwarepool  UNAVAIL      0     0     0  insufficient replicas      

Re: [zfs-discuss] Abysmal ISCSI / ZFS Performance

2010-02-10 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 17:06, Brian E. Imhoff beimh...@hotmail.com wrote: I am in the proof-of-concept phase of building a large ZFS/Solaris based SAN box, and am experiencing absolutely poor / unusable performance. I then, Create a zpool, using raidz2, using all 24 drives, 1 as a hotspare:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

2010-01-24 Thread Will Murnane
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:41, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@sun.com wrote: Rob Logan wrote: a 1U or 2U JBOD chassis for 2.5 drives, from http://supermicro.com/products/nfo/chassis_storage.cfm the E1 (single) or E2 (dual) options have a SAS expander so

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding SAS/SATA Backplanes and Connectivity

2010-01-06 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 20:41, Mark Bennett mark.benn...@public.co.nz wrote: Will, sorry for picking an old thread, That's okay---I liked this thread ;) but you mentioned a psu monitor to supplement the CSE-PTJBOD-CB1. I have two of these and am interested in your design. Oddly, the LSI

Re: [zfs-discuss] This is the scrub that never ends...

2009-09-11 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 13:06, Will Murnane will.murn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 21:29, Bill Sommerfeld sommerf...@sun.com wrote: Any suggestions? Let it run for another day. I'll let it keep running as long as it wants this time. scrub: scrub completed after 42h32m with 0

Re: [zfs-discuss] This is the scrub that never ends...

2009-09-10 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:11, Jonathan Edwards jonathan.edwa...@sun.com wrote: out of curiousity - do you have a lot of small files in the filesystem? Most of the space in the filesystem is taken by a few large files, but most of the files in the filesystem are small. For example, I have my

Re: [zfs-discuss] This is the scrub that never ends...

2009-09-10 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 21:29, Bill Sommerfeld sommerf...@sun.com wrote: Any suggestions? Let it run for another day. I'll let it keep running as long as it wants this time. I suspect the combination of frequent time-based snapshots and a pretty active set of users causes the progress

Re: [zfs-discuss] This is the scrub that never ends...

2009-09-09 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 03:27, Tim Cook t...@cook.ms wrote: I left the scrub running all day:  scrub: scrub in progress for 67h57m, 100.00% done, 0h0m to go but as you can see, it didn't finish.  So, I ran pkg image-update, rebooted, and am now running b122.  On reboot, the scrub restarted

Re: [zfs-discuss] This is the scrub that never ends...

2009-09-08 Thread Will Murnane
an update in about 17 hours ;) On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 18:06, Will Murnane will.murn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 15:59, Henrik Johansson henr...@henkis.net wrote: Hello Will, On Sep 7, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Will Murnane wrote: What can cause this kind of behavior, and how can I make

[zfs-discuss] This is the scrub that never ends...

2009-09-07 Thread Will Murnane
I have a pool composed of a single raidz2 vdev, which is currently degraded (missing a disk): config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM pool DEGRADED 0 0 0 raidz2 DEGRADED 0 0 0 c8d1 ONLINE 0 0 0

Re: [zfs-discuss] This is the scrub that never ends...

2009-09-07 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:05, Chris Gerhard chris.gerh...@sun.com wrote: Looks like this bug: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6655927 Workaround: Don't run zpool status as root. I'm not, and yet the scrub continues. To be more specific, here's a complete current interaction

Re: [zfs-discuss] This is the scrub that never ends...

2009-09-07 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 15:59, Henrik Johansson henr...@henkis.net wrote: Hello Will, On Sep 7, 2009, at 3:42 PM, Will Murnane wrote: What can cause this kind of behavior, and how can I make my pool finish scrubbing? No idea what is causing this but did you try to stop the scrub? I haven't

Re: [zfs-discuss] check a zfs rcvd file

2009-09-02 Thread Will Murnane
zfs recv -vn file will check the integrity of the zfs stream in file. However, this is only a one-time check; if the data is corrupted later the stream will not be recoverable. You might consider using something like par2 [1] to generate parity: while true: zfs send f...@snap file generate

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs kernel compilation issue

2009-08-30 Thread Will Murnane
Your issue may be due to a problem I ran into with 'cw' not generating the proper arguments for the C compiler. I've only used the Sun Studio C compiler to build the kernel. My notes on how I build the kernel are on my blog, in two parts:

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to prevent /usr/bin/chmod from following symbolic links?

2009-08-24 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:55, Richard Ellingrichard.ell...@gmail.com wrote: Alice$ cd ~/proj1; ln -s /etc ., Alice$ echo Hi helpdesk, Bob is on vacation and he has a bunch of files in my home directory for a project that we are working on together.  Unfortunately, his umask was messed up and

Re: [zfs-discuss] SMBS share disappears daily

2009-08-14 Thread Will Murnane
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 13:35, Alex Lam S.L.alexla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I have a raid-z(1) data pool with smb=name=data (4x750GB local SATA II), which I open up for my Windows machines to dump files into. Trouble is, the SMB share would disappear from the network at least once a

[zfs-discuss] Sol10u7: can't zpool remove missing hot spare

2009-08-04 Thread Will Murnane
I'm using Solaris 10u6 updated to u7 via patches, and I have a pool with a mirrored pair and a (shared) hot spare. We reconfigured disks a while ago and now the controller is c4 instead of c2. The hot spare was originally on c2, and apparently on rebooting it didn't get found. So, I looked up

Re: [zfs-discuss] Sol10u7: can't zpool remove missing hot spare

2009-08-04 Thread Will Murnane
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 19:05, cindy.swearin...@sun.com wrote: Hi Will, It looks to me like you are running into this bug: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6664649 This is fixed in Nevada and a fix will also be available in an upcoming Solaris 10 release. That

Re: [zfs-discuss] [n/zfs-discuss] Strange speeds with x4500, Solaris 10 10

2009-07-30 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 14:50, Kurt Olsenno-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: I'm using an Acard ANS-9010B (configured with 12 GB battery backed ECC RAM w/ 16 GB CF card for longer term power losses. Device cost $250, RAM cost about $120, and the CF around $100.) It just shows up as a SATA drive.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help with setting up ZFS

2009-07-28 Thread Will Murnane
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 03:04, Brianno-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: Just a quick question before I address everyone else. I bought this connector http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812198020 However its pretty clear to me now (after Ive ordered it) that it won't at all

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding SAS/SATA Backplanes and Connectivity

2009-07-20 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 05:44, F. Wesselsno-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: Also in reply to the previous email by Will. Can anyone shed more light on the combination lsi sas hba , the lsisasx36 expander chip (or it's relatives) and sata disks. I'm investigating a migration from discrete

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding SAS/SATA Backplanes and Connectivity

2009-07-17 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 21:30, Rob Loganr...@logan.com wrote: c4                             scsi-bus     connected    configured unknown c4::dsk/c4t15d0                disk         connected    configured unknown  : c4::dsk/c4t33d0                disk         connected    configured

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding SAS/SATA Backplanes and Connectivity

2009-07-17 Thread Will Murnane
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:43, Adam Shermanasher...@versature.com wrote: On 17-Jul-09, at 1:45 , Will Murnane wrote: I'm looking at the LSI SAS3801X because it seems to be what Sun OEMs for my X4100s: If you're given the choice (i.e., you have the M2 revision), PCI Express is probably

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding SAS/SATA Backplanes and Connectivity

2009-07-16 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 17:02, Adam Shermanasher...@versature.com wrote: Hello All, I'm just starting to think about building some mass-storage arrays and am looking to better understand some of the components involved. For example, the Supermicro SC826 series of systems is available with

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding SAS/SATA Backplanes and Connectivity

2009-07-16 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 20:20, Adam Shermanasher...@versature.com wrote: Ever seen/read about anyone use this kind of setup for HA clustering? I'm getting ideas about Open HA/Solaris Cluster on top of this setup with two systems connecting, that would rock! It's possible that this would work

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding SAS/SATA Backplanes and Connectivity

2009-07-16 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 21:16, Rob Loganr...@logan.com wrote: I'm confused, I though expanders only worked with SAS disk, and SATA disks took an entire SAS port. could someone post an output showing more than 4 SATA drives across one InfiniBand cable (4 SAS ports) 2 % cfgadm | grep sata

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding SAS/SATA Backplanes and Connectivity

2009-07-16 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 21:35, Adam Shermanasher...@versature.com wrote: I'm looking at the LSI SAS3801X because it seems to be what Sun OEMs for my X4100s: If you're given the choice (i.e., you have the M2 revision), PCI Express is probably the bus to go with. It's basically the same card, but

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS mirrors with uncoordinated LUN snapshots (Amazon EBS)

2009-06-10 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 14:18, Clayton Wheelerno-re...@opensolaris.org wrote: I'm setting up OpenSolaris on Amazon EC2, and planning on using their Elastic Block Store volumes to store a persistent ZFS zpool. I'm inclined to make a mirror of two EBS volumes (essentially LUNs with snapshot

Re: [zfs-discuss] CR# 6574286, remove slog device

2009-05-20 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:42, Miles Nordin car...@ivy.net wrote: djm == Darren J Moffat darr...@opensolaris.org writes:   djm a) it was highly dangerous and involved using multiple   djm different zfs kernel modules was well as however...utter hogwash!  Nothing is ``highly dangerous'' when

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] Supermicro AOC-SASLP-MV8

2009-04-22 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 02:45, James Andrewartha jam...@daa.com.au wrote: myxi...@googlemail.com wrote: Bouncing a thread from the device drivers list: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=357176 Does anybody know if OpenSolaris will support this new Supermicro card, based on

[zfs-discuss] Degraded log device in zpool status output

2009-04-18 Thread Will Murnane
I have a pool, huge, composed of one six-disk raidz2 vdev and a log device. I failed to plug in one disk when I took the machine down to plug in the log device, and booted all the way before I realized this, so the raidz2 vdev was rightly listed as degraded. Then I brought the machine down,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Data size grew.. with compression on

2009-04-13 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 07:03, Robert Milkowski mi...@task.gda.pl wrote: Hello Daniel, Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:35:07 PM, you wrote: DR Jonathan schrieb: OpenSolaris Forums wrote: if you have a snapshot of your files and rsync the same files again, you need to use --inplace rsync option

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] Supermicro SAS/SATA controllers?

2009-04-13 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 01:02, Nicholas Lee emptysa...@gmail.com wrote: There's also the ACARD device: acard ANS-9010B                 $250  plus 8GB RAM                    $86  plus 16GB CF                    $44 It's also got a battery but can dump/restore the RAM to a CF card. It's

Re: [zfs-discuss] Size discrepancy (beyond expected amount?)

2009-03-20 Thread Will Murnane
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 14:57, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Harry Putnam wrote: So raidz1 would probably be adequate for me... I wouldn't be putting it to the test like a commercial operation might. Yes, but it is pointless to use it with three

Re: [zfs-discuss] reboot when copying large amounts of data

2009-03-12 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 18:30, Miles Nordin car...@ivy.net wrote:  I love the way they use the numbers 3800 and 3080, so you are  constantly transposing them thus leaving google littered with all  this confusingly wrong information. Think of the middle two digits as (number of external ports,

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to unwind raidz1 or zpool

2009-03-09 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 18:48, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I'm probably overlooking a lot of functionality in man zfs but as always its difficult to really understand the various cmds and properties when lacking real experience. After having a created zpool raidz1 from various parts

Re: [zfs-discuss] New RAM disk from ACARD might be interesting

2009-02-16 Thread Will Murnane
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:12, Tim t...@tcsac.net wrote: I wouldn't think grabbing 8GB memory would be a big deal after dropping that much on the controller?? There being no sense in half measures, I ordered 12GB (i.e., three kits) of this:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-USAS-L8i

2009-02-13 Thread Will Murnane
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 04:51, Nicola Fankhauser nicola.fankhau...@variant.ch wrote: hi I have a AOC-USAS-L8i working in both a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P and Gigabyte GA-EG45M-DS2H under OpenSolaris build 104+ (Nexenta Core 2.0 beta). Very cool! It's good to see people having success with this

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-USAS-L8i

2009-02-12 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 19:02, Brandon High bh...@freaks.com wrote: There's a post there from a guy using two of the AOC-USAS-L8i in his system here: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1033321345 Read again---he's using the AOC-SAT2-MV8, which is PCI-X. That is known to work fine, even in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-USAS-L8i

2009-02-12 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 20:05, Tim t...@tcsac.net wrote: Are you selectively ignoring responses to this thread or something? Dave has already stated he *HAS IT WORKING TODAY*. No, I saw that post. However, I saw one unequivocal it doesn't work earlier (even if I can't show it to you), which

Re: [zfs-discuss] SPAM *** importing unformatted partition

2009-02-12 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 21:59, Jan Hlodan jh231...@mail-emea.sun.com wrote: I would like to import 3. partition as a another pool but I can't see this partition. sh-3.2# format -e Searching for disks...done AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: 0. c7t0d0 drive type unknown

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs create adding log and cache

2009-02-11 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:25, Rafael Friedlander r...@sun.com wrote: Hi, (I am sorry but I don't have a system where I can run commands). Is it OK to create a zpool adding log and cache options? Yes, this usage is explicitly mentioned in the man page [1]. Will [1]:

Re: [zfs-discuss] New RAM disk from ACARD might be interesting

2009-02-06 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 23:00, Will Murnane will.murn...@gmail.com wrote: *sigh* The 9010b is ordered. Ground shipping, unfortunately, but eventually I'll post my impressions of it. Well, the drive arrived today. It's as nice-looking as it appears in the pictures, and building a zpool out

Re: [zfs-discuss] j4200 drive carriers

2009-02-01 Thread Will Murnane
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:30, Frank Cusack fcus...@fcusack.com wrote: recommendations for an alternative? At work we just ordered a Supermicro CSE-846E1-R900B [1]: 24 hot-swap bays, redundant 900W power supplies, LSI SAS expander. This doesn't quite make a JBOD by itself (it's designed to be

Re: [zfs-discuss] New RAM disk from ACARD might be interesting

2009-01-29 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 21:11, Nathan Kroenert nathan.kroen...@sun.com wrote: Seems a little pricey for what it is though. For what it's worth, there's also a 9010B model that has only one sata port and room for six dimms instead of eight at $250 instead of $400. That might fit in your budget a

Re: [zfs-discuss] New RAM disk from ACARD might be interesting

2009-01-29 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 22:44, Nathan Kroenert nathan.kroen...@sun.com wrote: You could be the first... Man up! ;) *sigh* The 9010b is ordered. Ground shipping, unfortunately, but eventually I'll post my impressions of it. Will Nathan. Will Murnane wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 21:11

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS concat pool

2009-01-28 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 07:37, Peter van Gemert opensola...@petervg.nl wrote: Is there any way I can create concat pools. Not that I'm aware of. However, pools that are not redundant at the zpool level (i.e., mirror or raidz{,2}) are prone to becoming irrevocably faulted; creating non-redundant

[zfs-discuss] ZFS+NFS+refquota: full filesystems still return EDQUOT for unlink()

2009-01-28 Thread Will Murnane
We have been using ZFS for user home directories for a good while now. When we discovered the problem with full filesystems not allowing deletes over NFS, we became very anxious to fix this; our users fill their quotas on a fairly regular basis, so it's important that they have a simple recourse

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS+NFS+refquota: full filesystems still return EDQUOT for unlink()

2009-01-28 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 19:04, Chris Kirby chris.ki...@sun.com wrote: On Jan 28, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Will Murnane wrote: (on the client workstation) wil...@chasca:~$ dd if=/dev/urandom of=bigfile dd: closing output file `bigfile': Disk quota exceeded wil...@chasca:~$ rm bigfile rm: cannot

Re: [zfs-discuss] CIFS and zfs

2009-01-18 Thread Will Murnane
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 16:38, Louis Hoefler louis.hoef...@struktum.com wrote: Is it possible to share a folder with cifs without adding a zfs volume? Try zfs set sharesmb=on mypool. I also have not found out how to share a folder with zfs, is it possible? I don't think sharing an individual

Re: [zfs-discuss] replace same sized disk fails with too small error

2009-01-18 Thread Will Murnane
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 16:51, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: I appreciate that in these times of financial hardship that you can not afford a 750GB drive to replace the oversized 500GB drive. Sorry to hear about your situation. That's easy to say, but what if there were

Re: [zfs-discuss] replace same sized disk fails with too small error

2009-01-18 Thread Will Murnane
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 18:19, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: What do you propose that OpenSolaris should do about this? Take drive size, divide by 100, round down to two significant digits. Floor to a multiple of that size. This method wastes no more than 1% of the disk

Re: [zfs-discuss] Lackluster ZFS performance trials using various ZIL and L2ARC configurations...

2009-01-15 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 02:36, Gray Carper gcar...@umich.edu wrote: In the third test, we rebuilt the ZFS pool with the ZIL on a 32GB SSD and the L2ARC on four 80GB SSDs. An obvious question: what SSDs are these? Where did you get them? Many, many consumer-level MLC SSDs have controllers by

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on partitions

2009-01-15 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 21:51, casper@sun.com wrote: The performance issue of using a drive to multiple unrelated consumers (ZFS UFS) is that, if both are active at the same time, this will defeat the I/O scheduling smarts implemented in ZFS. Rather than have data streaming to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for new SATA/SAS HBA; JBOD is not always JBOD

2009-01-09 Thread Will Murnane
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 09:28, Erik Trimble erik.trim...@sun.com wrote: I'm pretty darned sure that the LSI 1068-based HBAs will do true JBOD. Supermicro makes two such beasts: AOC-USAS-L8i and AOC-USASLP-L8i Both are 8-port PCI-Express x4 cards. No, both are UIO cards. They're

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 17:12, Volker A. Brandt v...@bb-c.de wrote: The Samsung HD103UJ drives are nice, if you're not using NVidia controllers - there's a bug in either the drives or the controllers that makes them drop drives fairly frequently. Do you happen to have more details about this

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-08 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:01, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you. How does raidz2 compare to raid-2? Safer? Less safe? Raid-2 is much less used, for one, uses many more disks for parity, for two, and is much slower in any application I can think of. Suppose you have 11

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs list improvements?

2009-01-08 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 14:38, Richard Morris - Sun Microsystems - Burlington United States richard.mor...@sun.com wrote: As you point out, the -c option is user friendly while the -depth (or maybe -d) option is more general. There have been several requests for the -c option. Would anyone

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-07 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:45, Joel Buckley joel.buck...@sun.com wrote: Consider the engineering effort going into every Sun Server. Any system from Sun is more than sufficient for a home server. You want more disks, then buy one with more slots. Done. In my experience, buying disks (or

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to zfs + iscsi?

2009-01-05 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:30, Roger go...@sajberhagen.com wrote: How do i share a zfs conatiner with iscsi? Running OpenSolaris, yes? Try pfexec pkg install SUNWiscsitgt first. Or pkg info SUNWiscsitgt to see details on the package first. Will ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Split responsibility for data with ZFS

2008-12-10 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 18:46, Gary Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The storage device provides reliability and integrity for the blocks of data that it serves, and does this well. But not well enough. Even if the storage does a perfect job keeping its bits correct on disk, there are a lot of

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs is a co-dependent parent and won't let children leave home

2008-12-08 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 13:03, Seymour Krebs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~# zfs destroy -r rpool/ROOT/b99 cannot destroy 'rpool/ROOT/b99': filesystem has dependent clones Take a look at the output of zfs get origin for the other filesystems in the pool. One of them is a clone of rpool/ROOT/b99; to

Re: [zfs-discuss] How often to scrub?

2008-12-02 Thread Will Murnane
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:15, Paul Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you've got a zpool across 46 (48?) of the disks? When I was looking into our thumpers everyone seemed to think a raidz over more than 10 disks was a hideous idea. A vdev that size is bad, a pool that size composed of

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Smashing Baby a fake???

2008-11-24 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:40, Scara Maccai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still don't understand why even the one on http://www.opensolaris.com/, ZFS – A Smashing Hit, doesn't show the app running in the moment the HD is smashed... weird... ZFS is primarily about protecting your data: correctness,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Peculiar disk loading on raidz2

2008-11-21 Thread Will Murnane
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 14:35, Charles Menser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 5 drive raidz2 pool which I have a iscsi share on. While backing up a MacOS drive to it I noticed some very strange access patterns, and wanted to know if what I am seeing is normal, or not. There are times when

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS space efficiency when copying files from another source

2008-11-17 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 20:54, BJ Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Dedup is what I really want, but it's not implemented yet. Yes, as I read it. greenBytes [1] claims to have dedup on their system; you might investigate them if you decide rsync won't work for your application. 2. The only

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3rd party SAS-disks in J4000

2008-11-10 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:32, Philipp Tobler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, the Barracuda ES.2 disks from Seagate are available in a SAS-version and would seem to be a perfect fit for J4000 arrays. Does anyone have any experience with these disks? Is it possible to install disks in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] ZFS Success Stories

2008-10-20 Thread Will Murnane
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:10, gm_sjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I appreciate 99% of the time people only comment if they have a problem, which is why I think it'd be nice for some people who have successfully implemented ZFS, including making various use of the features (recovery, replacing

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-15 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 18:30, Scott Laird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, also I kind of doubt that a 750W power supply will spin 16 disks up reliably. I have 10 in mine with a 600W supply, and it's borderline--10 drives work, 11 doesn't, and adding a couple extra PCI cards has pushed mine over

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-15 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 23:51, Scott Laird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most 3.5 drives want about 30W at startup; that'd be around 780W with 16 drives. I'm not sure what kind of math you're using here. See

Re: [zfs-discuss] c1t0d0 to c3t1d0

2008-09-30 Thread Will Murnane
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 14:00, dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I have to do to be able to switch this drive? I'd suggest running zpool import. If that doesn't show the pool, put it back in the external enclosure, run zpool export mypool and then see if it shows up in zpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-26 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 18:51, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what's wrong with this card? http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USASLP-L8i.cfm If you have a UIO slot (many recent Supermicro boards do) then it's a fine choice. But if you have a non-Supermicro board, you may

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-26 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 21:59, Miles Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wm == Will Murnane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wm I'd rather have a working closed blob than a driver that is wm Free Software for a device that is faulty. Ideals are very wm nice, but broken hardware isn't. except

Re: [zfs-discuss] working closed blob driver

2008-09-26 Thread Will Murnane
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 21:51, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not a UIO card. It's a standard PCI-E card. What the description is telling you is that you can combine it with a UIO card to add raid functionality as there is none built-in. Not so. The description [1] mentions that this

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool file corruption

2008-09-25 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 13:38, Miles Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. too bad Sil is the only ones selling chips on PCI cards that have source code for their drivers. Indeed, it is too bad. But I'd rather have a working closed blob than a driver that is Free Software for a device that is

Re: [zfs-discuss] [Fwd: Re: GIS: ZFS question]

2008-09-19 Thread Will Murnane
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 15:39, jonathan sai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Need to trouble you to open up the pdf. Customer has included int he doc configuration that they are having and at the end their query. Appreciate any help to respond to the customer. First, it's not recommended to

Re: [zfs-discuss] SAS or SATA HBA with write cache

2008-09-10 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 16:56, Matt Beebe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how 'bout it hardware vendors? when can we get a PCIe(x8) SAS/SATA controller with an x4 internal port and an x4 external port and 512MB battery backed cache for about $250?? :) Heck, I'd take SATA only if I could get it

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS compression or lack thereof...

2008-09-07 Thread Will Murnane
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 15:08, Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should mention that if copying the file causes it to be nicely compressed, then you can use this to your advantage. Your log-file rotator can copy the file and delete the original rather than just renaming it. You would

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-09-02 Thread Will Murnane
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:44, Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fiber channel ... offers a bit more bandwidth than SAS. The bandwidth part of this statement is not accurate. SAS uses wide ports composed of (usually, other widths are possible) four 3 gbit links. Each of these has a

Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz2 group size

2008-09-02 Thread Will Murnane
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 15:39, Barton Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Forgive my ignorance of ZFS, but I have a customer that would like to set up three 14+2 raidz2 groups on a new thor with 48 1TB drives (updated thumper) so that 42TB for data could be achieved. What performance or other

Re: [zfs-discuss] OT: Formatting Problem of ZFS Adm Guide (pdf)

2008-08-27 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:41, W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't doubt the superiority of LaTex/Framemaker in conjunction with Distiller in producing nicely typeset books and brochures. But how good is a tool if it produces a product that its intended users can NOT read? This

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best layout for 15 disks?

2008-08-21 Thread Will Murnane
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 00:15, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question #1: I've seen 5-6 disk zpools are the most recommended setup. In traditional RAID terms, I would like to do RAID5 + hot spare (13 disks usable) out of the 15 disks (like raidz2 I suppose). What would make the most sense

Re: [zfs-discuss] CF to SATA adapters for boot device

2008-08-20 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 05:17, Ian Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone here had any luck using a CF to SATA adapter? I have two of these:

Re: [zfs-discuss] shrinking a zpool - roadmap

2008-08-20 Thread Will Murnane
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 18:40, Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The errant command which accidentally adds a vdev could just as easily be a command which scrambles up or erases all of the data. True enough---but if there's a way to undo accidentally adding a vdev, there's one source of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Kernel panic at zpool import

2008-08-14 Thread Will Murnane
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 07:42, Borys Saulyak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got, lets say, 10 disks in the storage. They are currently in RAID5 configuration and given to my box as one LUN. You suggest to create 10 LUNs instead, and give them to ZFS, where they will be part of one raidz,

[zfs-discuss] Strange burstiness in write speed with a mirror

2008-08-06 Thread Will Murnane
I've got a pool which I'm currently syncing a few hundred gigabytes to using rsync. The source machine is pretty slow, so it only goes at about 20 MB/s. Watching zpool iostat -v local-space 10, I see a pattern like this (trimmed to take up less space): capacity operations

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