Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-26 Thread Sigbjørn Lie
Hi Daniel, We we're looking into very much the same solution you've tested. Thanks for your advise. I think we will look for something else. :) Just out of curiosity, what ZFS tweaking did you do? And what much pricier competitor solution did you end up with in the end? Regards,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-26 Thread LaoTsao 老曹
IMHO, if U use the backup SW that support dedupe in the SW then ZFS is still a viable solution On 8/26/2010 6:13 PM, Sigbjørn Lie wrote: Hi Daniel, We we're looking into very much the same solution you've tested. Thanks for your advise. I think we will look for something else. :) Just

Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-25 Thread Sigbjorn Lie
Hi, What sort of compression ratio do you get? Sigbjorn On Wed, August 18, 2010 12:59, Hans Foertsch wrote: Hello, we use ZFS on Solaris 10u8 as a backup to disk solution with EMC Networker. We use the standard recordsize 128k and zfs compression. Dedup we can't use, because of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-25 Thread Sigbjorn Lie
Wow, not bad! What is your CPU penalty for enabling compression? Sigbjorn On Wed, August 18, 2010 14:11, Paul Kraus wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Peter Tribble peter.trib...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this with NetBackup, and decided against it pretty rapidly. Basically, we

Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-25 Thread Paul Kraus
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Sigbjorn Lie sigbj...@nixtra.com wrote: Wow, not bad! What is your CPU penalty for enabling compression? Not noticeable on the server side. The NBU servers are M4000 with 4 dual core CPUs, so we have (effectively) 16 CPUs and 16 GB of RAM. The load does climb

Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-25 Thread Daniel Whitener
Sigbjorn Stop! Don't do it... it's a waste of time. We tried exactly what you're thinking of... we bought two Sun/Oracle 7000 series storage units with 20TB of ZFS storage each planning to use them as a backup target for Networker. We ran into several issues eventually gave up the ZFS networker

[zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-18 Thread Sigbjorn Lie
Hi, We are considering using a ZFS based storage as a staging disk for Networker. We're aiming at providing enough storage to be able to keep 3 months worth of backups on disk, before it's moved to tape. To provide storage for 3 months of backups, we want to utilize the dedup functionality in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Kraus
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Peter Tribble peter.trib...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this with NetBackup, and decided against it pretty rapidly. Basically, we got hardly any dedup at all. (Something like 3%; compression gave us much better results.) Tiny changes in block alignment completely

Re: [zfs-discuss] Networker Dedup @ ZFS

2010-08-18 Thread Richard Elling
On Aug 18, 2010, at 5:11 AM, Paul Kraus wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Peter Tribble peter.trib...@gmail.com wrote: I tried this with NetBackup, and decided against it pretty rapidly. Basically, we got hardly any dedup at all. (Something like 3%; compression gave us much better