[zfs-discuss] Re: Snapshots and backing store

2006-09-13 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
Well. ZFS isn't copy-on-write in the same way that things like ufssnap are. ufssnap is copy-on-write in that when you write something, it copies out the old data and writes it somewhere else (the backing store). ZFS doesn't need to do this - it simply writes the new data to a new

[zfs-discuss] Re: Snapshots and backing store

2006-09-13 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
If you want to copy your filesystems (or snapshots) to other disks, you can use 'zfs send' to send them to a different pool (which may even be on a different machine!). Oh no ! It means copy the whole filesystem. The target here is definitively to snapshot the filesystem and them backup

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Snapshots and backing store

2006-09-13 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Nicolas Dorfsman wrote: We need to think ZFS as ZFS, and not as a new filesystem ! I mean, the whole concept is different. Agreed. So. What could be the best architecture ? What is the problem? With UFS, I used to have separate metadevices/LUNs for each application. With ZFS, I thought

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Snapshots and backing store

2006-09-13 Thread Darren Dunham
Including performance considerations ? For instance, if I have two Oracle Databases with two I/O profiles (TP versus Batch)...what would be the best : 1) Two pools, each one on two LUNs. Each LUN distributed on n trays. 2) One pool on one LUN. This LUN distributed on 2 x n trays. 3) One

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Snapshots and backing store

2006-09-13 Thread Torrey McMahon
Matthew Ahrens wrote: Nicolas Dorfsman wrote: We need to think ZFS as ZFS, and not as a new filesystem ! I mean, the whole concept is different. Agreed. So. What could be the best architecture ? What is the problem? With UFS, I used to have separate metadevices/LUNs for each