Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-25 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
I would like to make a couple of additions to the proposed model. Permission Sets. Allow the administrator to define a named set of permissions, and then use the name as a permission later on. Permission sets would be evaluated dynamically, so that changing the set definition would

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-24 Thread Darren J Moffat
Mark Shellenbaum wrote: Darren J Moffat wrote: Bill La Forge wrote: I like to think of delegation as being a bit different than granting permision--in fact, as a special permission that may include counts. For example, you might delegate to a manager the ability to grant select permissions.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-24 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Darren J Moffat wrote: Mark Shellenbaum wrote: Darren J Moffat wrote: Bill La Forge wrote: I like to think of delegation as being a bit different than granting permision--in fact, as a special permission that may include counts. For example, you might delegate to a manager the ability to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-18 Thread Darren Reed
Mark Shellenbaum wrote: The following is the delegated admin model that Matt and I have been working on. At this point we are ready for your feedback on the proposed model. -Mark PERMISSION GRANTING zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-18 Thread Darren Reed
Mark Shellenbaum wrote: Glenn Skinner wrote: The following is a nit-level comment, so I've directed it onl;y to you, rather than to the entire list. Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:57:35 -0600 From: Mark Shellenbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-18 Thread Darren Reed
Jeff Bonwick wrote: PERMISSION GRANTING zfs allow [-l] [-d] everyone|user|group ability[,ability...] \ ... zfs unallow dataset [-r] [-l] [-d] If we're going to use English words, it should be allow and disallow. The problem with 'disallow' is that it implies

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-18 Thread michael schuster
Jeff Bonwick wrote: PERMISSION GRANTING zfs allow [-l] [-d] everyone|user|group ability[,ability...] \ ... zfs unallow dataset [-r] [-l] [-d] If we're going to use English words, it should be allow and disallow. The problem with 'disallow' is that it implies precluding a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-18 Thread James Dickens
On 7/18/06, Mark Shellenbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darren J Moffat wrote: Bill La Forge wrote: I like to think of delegation as being a bit different than granting permision--in fact, as a special permission that may include counts. For example, you might delegate to a manager the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-17 Thread Bart Smaalders
Matthew Ahrens wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 09:44:28AM -0700, Bart Smaalders wrote: Mark Shellenbaum wrote: PERMISSION GRANTING zfs allow -c ability[,ability...] dataset -c Create means that the permission will be granted (Locally) to the creator on any newly-created descendant

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-17 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Bart Smaalders wrote: Matthew Ahrens wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 09:44:28AM -0700, Bart Smaalders wrote: Mark Shellenbaum wrote: PERMISSION GRANTING zfs allow -c ability[,ability...] dataset -c Create means that the permission will be granted (Locally) to the creator on any

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-17 Thread Matthew Ahrens
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:00:44AM -0700, Bart Smaalders wrote: So as administrator what do I need to do to set /export/home up for users to be able to create their own snapshots, create dependent filesystems (but still mounted underneath their /export/home/usrname)? In other words, is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-17 Thread Bart Smaalders
Matthew Ahrens wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:00:44AM -0700, Bart Smaalders wrote: So as administrator what do I need to do to set /export/home up for users to be able to create their own snapshots, create dependent filesystems (but still mounted underneath their /export/home/usrname)? In

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-17 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 10:11:35AM -0700, Matthew Ahrens wrote: I want root to create a new filesystem for a new user under the /export/home filesystem, but then have that user get the right privs via inheritance rather than requiring root to run a set of zfs commands. In that case, how

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-17 Thread James Dickens
On 7/17/06, Mark Shellenbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is the delegated admin model that Matt and I have been working on. At this point we are ready for your feedback on the proposed model. -Mark PERMISSION GRANTING zfs allow [-l] [-d] everyone|user|group

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-17 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Glenn Skinner wrote: The following is a nit-level comment, so I've directed it onl;y to you, rather than to the entire list. Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:57:35 -0600 From: Mark Shellenbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration The following is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: delegated administration

2006-07-17 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
James Dickens wrote: On 7/17/06, Mark Shellenbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is the delegated admin model that Matt and I have been working on. At this point we are ready for your feedback on the proposed model. -Mark PERMISSION GRANTING zfs allow [-l] [-d]