Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs-discuss Digest, Vol 33, Issue 19

2008-07-09 Thread Ross
Hi Neil, No problem, thanks for the info. I knew these cards were a gamble, but if I can get them working, it will be worth it. I've today spoken to the UK office of VMetro about drivers but I'm not holding out too much hope. They were very friendly and polite, but explained that they

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog device

2008-07-09 Thread Ross
I'm not personally aware of any. The ioDrive from Fusion-io looks the most promising, but it's a new product from a new company so it's likely to be a while (if ever) before Solaris drivers appear. I've contacted them to ask about Solaris drivers, but haven't had a response yet. I summarised

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog device

2008-07-09 Thread Ross
PS. I note on the Fusion-io web page that they're working with HP to accelerate their servers. Would be nice if somebody from Sun could do the same (or let us know if Sun are working on similar technology). This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] confusion and frustration with zpool

2008-07-09 Thread Al Hopper
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pete Hartman wrote: I'm curious which enclosures you've had problems with? Mine are both Maxtor One Touch; the 750 is slightly different in that it has a FireWire port as well as USB. I've had VERY bad experiences

[zfs-discuss] Thumper wedged somewhere in ZFS

2008-07-09 Thread Ceri Davies
Forwarding here, as suggested by chaps on storage-discuss. Just to clarify, I was running filebench directly on the x4500, not from an initiator, so this is probably not a COMSTAR thing. Ceri -- That must be wonderful! I don't understand it at all.

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog device

2008-07-09 Thread Richard Elling
Ross wrote: PS. I note on the Fusion-io web page that they're working with HP to accelerate their servers. Would be nice if somebody from Sun could do the same (or let us know if Sun are working on similar technology). I thought the cat was already out of the bag... :-)

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs-discuss Digest, Vol 33, Issue 19

2008-07-09 Thread Miles Nordin
r == Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: np == Neil Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: np 2. I received the board and driver from another group within np Sun. It would be better to contact Micro Memory (or whoever np took them over) directly, as it's not my place to give out 3rd np

Re: [zfs-discuss] confusion and frustration with zpool

2008-07-09 Thread Miles Nordin
ah == Al Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ah I've had bad experiences with the Seagate products. I've had bad experiences with all of them. (maxtor, hgst, seagate, wd) ah My guess is that it's related to duty cycle - Recently I've been getting a lot of drives from companies like

[zfs-discuss] Using zfs boot with MPxIO on T2000

2008-07-09 Thread Adrian Danielson
Here is what I have configured: T2000 with OBP 4.28.6 2008/05/23 12:07 with 2 - 72 GB disks as the root disks OpenSolaris Nevada Build 91 Solaris Express Community Edition snv_91 SPARC Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Re: [zfs-discuss] confusion and frustration with zpool

2008-07-09 Thread Keith Bierman
On Jul 9, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Miles Nordin wrote: ah == Al Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ah I've had bad experiences with the Seagate products. I've had bad experiences with all of them. (maxtor, hgst, seagate, wd) ah My guess is that it's related to duty cycle - Recently

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs-discuss Digest, Vol 33, Issue 19

2008-07-09 Thread Ross
I think the problem Miles is that this isn't Sun hardware, and I completely understand that as a Sun employee, Neil really can't be seen to distribute something that's untested and unsupported, and quite possibly under NDA. On the other hand, if I get hold of these drivers, I'm under no such

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs-discuss Digest, Vol 33, Issue 19

2008-07-09 Thread Tim
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the problem Miles is that this isn't Sun hardware, and I completely understand that as a Sun employee, Neil really can't be seen to distribute something that's untested and unsupported, and quite possibly under NDA. On the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs boot with MPxIO on T2000

2008-07-09 Thread Peter Tribble
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Adrian Danielson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what I have configured: T2000 with OBP 4.28.6 2008/05/23 12:07 with 2 - 72 GB disks as the root disks OpenSolaris Nevada Build 91 ... 2. After enabled MPxIO (stmsboot -e), the 2 root disks now

[zfs-discuss] And the answer to why can't ZFS find a plugged in disk is ...

2008-07-09 Thread James Litchfield
From an email exchange with a HAL developer... This comes about because I boot back and forth between Windows and Solaris and when on the Windows side I have the drive unplugged. On occasion, I forget to plug it back in before returning to Solaris. I wonder then, if Solaris should export

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs boot with MPxIO on T2000

2008-07-09 Thread Richard Elling
Adrian Danielson wrote: Here is what I have configured: T2000 with OBP 4.28.6 2008/05/23 12:07 with 2 - 72 GB disks as the root disks OpenSolaris Nevada Build 91 Solaris Express Community Edition snv_91 SPARC Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc.

[zfs-discuss] RFE: ZFS commands zmv and zcp

2008-07-09 Thread Raquel K. Sanborn
I've run across something that would save me days of trouble. Situation, the contents of one ZFS file system needs to be moved to another ZFS file system. The destination can be the same Zpool, even a brand new ZFS file system. A command to move the data from one ZFS file system to another,

[zfs-discuss] previously mentioned J4000 released

2008-07-09 Thread Chad Lewis
Here's the announcement for those new Sun JBOD devices mentioned the other day. http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2008-07/sunflash.20080709.1.xml ckl ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] RFE: ZFS commands zmv and zcp

2008-07-09 Thread Richard Elling
Raquel K. Sanborn wrote: I've run across something that would save me days of trouble. Situation, the contents of one ZFS file system needs to be moved to another ZFS file system. The destination can be the same Zpool, even a brand new ZFS file system. A command to move the data from one

Re: [zfs-discuss] RFE: ZFS commands zmv and zcp

2008-07-09 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, Raquel K. Sanborn wrote: Situation, the contents of one ZFS file system needs to be moved to another ZFS file system. The destination can be the same Zpool, even a brand new ZFS file system. A command to move the data from one ZFS file system to another, WITHOUT

[zfs-discuss] X4540

2008-07-09 Thread Tim
So, I see Sun finally updated the Thumper, and it appears they're now using a PCI-E backplane. Anyone happen to know what the chipset is? Any chance we'll see an 8-port PCI-E SATA card finally?? The new Sun Fire X4540 server uses PCI Express IO technology for more than triple the system

Re: [zfs-discuss] previously mentioned J4000 released

2008-07-09 Thread Tim
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Chad Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the announcement for those new Sun JBOD devices mentioned the other day. http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2008-07/sunflash.20080709.1.xml ckl ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540

2008-07-09 Thread Eric Schrock
The X4540 uses on-board LSI SAS controllers (C1068E). - Eric On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:59:26PM -0500, Tim wrote: So, I see Sun finally updated the Thumper, and it appears they're now using a PCI-E backplane. Anyone happen to know what the chipset is? Any chance we'll see an 8-port PCI-E

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540

2008-07-09 Thread Tim
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Eric Schrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The X4540 uses on-board LSI SAS controllers (C1068E). - Eric On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:59:26PM -0500, Tim wrote: So, I see Sun finally updated the Thumper, and it appears they're now using a PCI-E backplane. Anyone

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs-discuss Digest, Vol 33, Issue 19

2008-07-09 Thread Miles Nordin
r == Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: r I think the problem Miles is that this isn't Sun hardware In this case it's not, but please do not muddle my point: Marvell SATA and LSI Logic mpt SATARAID and many other (most?) drivers have the same problem. Right now there are, AIUI: *

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540

2008-07-09 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I see Sun finally updated the Thumper, and it appears they're now using a PCI-E backplane. Anyone happen to know what the chipset is? Any chance we'll see an 8-port PCI-E SATA card finally?? The new Sun Fire X4540 server uses

Re: [zfs-discuss] previously mentioned J4000 released

2008-07-09 Thread Tim
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Chad Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the announcement for those new Sun JBOD devices mentioned the other day. http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/pr/2008-07/sunflash.20080709.1.xml ckl ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540

2008-07-09 Thread Richard Elling
Tim wrote: So, I see Sun finally updated the Thumper, and it appears they're now using a PCI-E backplane. Anyone happen to know what the chipset is? Any chance we'll see an 8-port PCI-E SATA card finally?? One NVidia MCP-55 and two NVidia IO-55s replace the thumper's AMD-8132 HT to PCI-X

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540

2008-07-09 Thread Eric Schrock
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 03:19:53PM -0500, Mike Gerdts wrote: Any word on why PCI-Express was not extended to the expansion slots? I put PCI-Express cards in every other server that I connect to 10 gigabit Ethernet or the SAN (FC tape drives). The webpage is incorrect. There are three 8x

Re: [zfs-discuss] RFE: ZFS commands zmv and zcp

2008-07-09 Thread Raquel K. Sanborn
Thanks, glad someone else thought of it first. I guess I will have to do things the hard way. Raquel This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540

2008-07-09 Thread Tim
Might also want to have them talk to byteandswitch. * **We went to the next-generation Intel processors [and] we have used the latest generation of our Solaris ZFS software, he explains, adding that the J4000 JBODs can also be connected to the X4540.* Either the 4540 is using XEON's now, someone

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540

2008-07-09 Thread Eric Schrock
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 03:52:27PM -0500, Tim wrote: Is the 4540 still running a rageXL? I find that somewhat humorous if it's an Nvidia chipset with ATI video :) According to SMBIOS there is an on-board device of type AST2000 VGA. - Eric -- Eric Schrock, Fishworks

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540

2008-07-09 Thread Richard Elling
Tim wrote: Is the 4540 still running a rageXL? I find that somewhat humorous if it's an Nvidia chipset with ATI video :) Yes, it is part of the chip which handles the management interface. I don't find this to be a contradiction, though. AMD bought ATI and we're using AMD Quad-core CPUs.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs boot with MPxIO on T2000

2008-07-09 Thread Chris Ridd
Adrian Danielson wrote: 1. After the install I created a zfs mirror of the root disk c0t0d0 to c0t1d0, format shows the mirrored disk with sectors instead of cylinders, is this normal or correct? Is there a way to reverse this back to cylinders if it is not? Same goes for the external

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs boot with MPxIO on T2000

2008-07-09 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
ZFS uses EFI when a storage pool is created with whole disks. ZFS uses the old-style VTOC label when a storage pool is created with slices. To be able to boot from a ZFS root pool, the storage pool must be created with slices. This is a new requirement in ZFS land, and is described in the doc

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs boot with MPxIO on T2000

2008-07-09 Thread James C. McPherson
Peter Tribble wrote: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Adrian Danielson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what I have configured: T2000 with OBP 4.28.6 2008/05/23 12:07 with 2 - 72 GB disks as the root disks OpenSolaris Nevada Build 91 ... 2. After enabled MPxIO (stmsboot -e),

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540

2008-07-09 Thread Richard Elling
Eric Schrock wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 03:52:27PM -0500, Tim wrote: Is the 4540 still running a rageXL? I find that somewhat humorous if it's an Nvidia chipset with ATI video :) According to SMBIOS there is an on-board device of type AST2000 VGA. Yes, I think I found

Re: [zfs-discuss] X4540

2008-07-09 Thread Al Hopper
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim wrote: So, I see Sun finally updated the Thumper, and it appears they're now using a PCI-E backplane. Anyone happen to know what the chipset is? Any chance we'll see an 8-port PCI-E SATA card finally?? One NVidia

Re: [zfs-discuss] Case study/recommended ZFS setup for home file server

2008-07-09 Thread Florin Iucha
Hello, I plan to use (Open)Solaris for a home file server. I wanted cool and quiet hardware, so I picked a mini-atx motherboard and case, an AMD64 CPU and 4 GB of RAM. My case has room for three hard drives and I have chosen 3x WD 750 Green Power hard drives. The file server will serve out via

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog device

2008-07-09 Thread Al Hopper
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Gilberto Mautner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Anyway, are there other devices out there that you would recommend to use as a slog device, other than this nvram card, that would present similar performance gains? Not that this will get you similar performance

Re: [zfs-discuss] confusion and frustration with zpool

2008-07-09 Thread Anton B. Rang
Also worth noting is that the enterprise-class drives have protection from heavy load that the consumer-class drives don't. In particular, there's no temperature sensor on the voice coil for the consumer drives, which means that under heavy seek load (constant i/o), the drive will eventually

[zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-USAS-L8i

2008-07-09 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perfect. Which means good ol' supermicro would come through :) WOHOO! AOC-USAS-L8i http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USAS-L8i.cfm Is this card new? I'm not finding it at the usual places like Newegg, etc.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-USAS-L8i

2008-07-09 Thread James McPherson
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Brandon High [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perfect. Which means good ol' supermicro would come through :) WOHOO! AOC-USAS-L8i http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USAS-L8i.cfm Is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-USAS-L8i

2008-07-09 Thread Tim
Dunno how old it is, but James is right, no Raid which is why it's cheaper. Also why I like it ;) On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Brandon High [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perfect. Which means good ol' supermicro would come through

Re: [zfs-discuss] Case study/recommended ZFS setup for home file server

2008-07-09 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Florin Iucha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is, how should I partition the drives, and what tuning parameters should I use for the pools and file systems? From reading the best practices guides [1], [2], it seems that I cannot have the root file system

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-USAS-L8i

2008-07-09 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 07:53:30PM -0500, Tim wrote: Dunno how old it is, but James is right, no Raid which is why it's cheaper. Also why I like it ;) I have the HP badged LSA SAS3080X in my Ultra80, it's a fantastic card. If I ever get a box with PCI-E (I'm looking to upgrade the U80 soon, so

Re: [zfs-discuss] Case study/recommended ZFS setup for home file

2008-07-09 Thread Bohdan Tashchuk
Thank you for starting this thread. I hope you get some good feedback. Your questions are quite frequently asked in this forum, but I'm very interested in the topic. Anway, the best answer varies from month to month. So I hope you get some good feedback. I cannot use OpenSolaris 2008.05 since

Re: [zfs-discuss] Case study/recommended ZFS setup for home file

2008-07-09 Thread Florin Iucha
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 08:42:37PM -0700, Bohdan Tashchuk wrote: I cannot use OpenSolaris 2008.05 since it does not recognize the SATA disks attached to the southbridge. A fix for this problem went into build 93. Which forum/mailing list discusses SATA issues like the above? #opensolaris

Re: [zfs-discuss] Case study/recommended ZFS setup for home file server

2008-07-09 Thread Florin Iucha
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 06:02:24PM -0700, Brandon High wrote: On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Florin Iucha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason for using a whole disk is that ZFS will turn on the drive's cache. When using slices, the cache is normally disabled. If all slices are using ZFS, you

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs boot with MPxIO on T2000

2008-07-09 Thread Adrian Danielson
Thanks everyone for your replies, I have a better understanding of how to test out ZFS with MPxIO. Best Regards, Adrian This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Case study/recommended ZFS setup for home file

2008-07-09 Thread Richard Elling
Florin Iucha wrote: On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 08:42:37PM -0700, Bohdan Tashchuk wrote: I cannot use OpenSolaris 2008.05 since it does not recognize the SATA disks attached to the southbridge. A fix for this problem went into build 93. Which forum/mailing list discusses SATA issues

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs boot with MPxIO on T2000

2008-07-09 Thread Adrian Danielson
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/zfsadmin.pdf Another question: When trying to mirror the 2nd root disk, I get the following error: root[tst01:/root]# zpool attach rpool c0t0d0s0 c0t1d0s0 cannot attach c0t1d0s0 to c0t0d0s0: device is too small Since c0t1d0s0 has been reduced by

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using zfs boot with MPxIO on T2000

2008-07-09 Thread James C. McPherson
Adrian Danielson wrote: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/docs/zfsadmin.pdf Another question: When trying to mirror the 2nd root disk, I get the following error: root[tst01:/root]# zpool attach rpool c0t0d0s0 c0t1d0s0 cannot attach c0t1d0s0 to c0t0d0s0: device is too small