[zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore

2008-05-29 Thread Poulos, Joe
Is there a ZFS equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore? Will creating a tar file work with ZFS? We are trying to backup a ZFS file system to a separate disk, and would like to take advantage of something like ufsdump rather than using expensive backup software. Thanks for any

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
Poulos, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a ZFS equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore? Will creating a tar file work with ZFS? We are trying to backup a ZFS file system to a separate disk, and would like to take advantage of something like ufsdump rather than using expensive

[zfs-discuss] SMC Webconsole 3.1 and ZFS Administration 1.0 - stacktraces in snv_b89

2008-05-29 Thread Jim Klimov
I've installed SXDE (snv_89) and found that the web console only listens on https://localhost:6789/ now, and the module for ZFS admin doesn't work. When I open the link, the left frame lists a stacktrace (below) and the right frame is plain empty. Any suggestions? I tried substituting

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore

2008-05-29 Thread Darren J Moffat
Joerg Schilling wrote: Poulos, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a ZFS equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore? Will creating a tar file work with ZFS? We are trying to backup a ZFS file system to a separate disk, and would like to take advantage of something like ufsdump

[zfs-discuss] Liveupgrade snv_77 with a ZFS root to snv_89

2008-05-29 Thread Jim Klimov
We have a test machine installed with a ZFS root (snv_77/x86 and rootpol/rootfs with grub support). Recently tried to update it to snv_89 which (in Flag Days list) claimed more support for ZFS boot roots, but the installer disk didn't find any previously installed operating system to upgrade.

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The closest equivalent to ufsdump and ufsrestore is star. I very strongly disagree. The closest ZFS equivalent to ufsdump is 'zfs send'. 'zfs send' like ufsdump has initmiate awareness of the the actual on disk layout and is an integrated part of

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore

2008-05-29 Thread Mark Shellenbaum
Joerg Schilling wrote: Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The closest equivalent to ufsdump and ufsrestore is star. I very strongly disagree. The closest ZFS equivalent to ufsdump is 'zfs send'. 'zfs send' like ufsdump has initmiate awareness of the the actual on disk layout and

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore

2008-05-29 Thread Thomas Maier-Komor
Darren J Moffat schrieb: Joerg Schilling wrote: Poulos, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a ZFS equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore? Will creating a tar file work with ZFS? We are trying to backup a ZFS file system to a separate disk, and would like to take advantage of

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with raidz

2008-05-29 Thread David M Singer
The important thing is to protect your data. You have lots of options here, so we'd need to know more precisely what the other requirements are before we could give better advice. -- richard Please let me come in with a parallel need, the answer to which should contribute to this thread.

Re: [zfs-discuss] SMC Webconsole 3.1 and ZFS Administration 1.0 - stacktraces in snv_b89

2008-05-29 Thread Andy Lubel
On May 29, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Jim Klimov wrote: I've installed SXDE (snv_89) and found that the web console only listens on https://localhost:6789/ now, and the module for ZFS admin doesn't work. It works for out of the box without any special mojo. In order to get the webconsole to

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore

2008-05-29 Thread Jonathan Hogg
On 29 May 2008, at 15:51, Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: I very strongly disagree. The closest ZFS equivalent to ufsdump is 'zfs send'. 'zfs send' like ufsdump has initmiate awareness of the the actual on disk layout and is an integrated part of the filesystem implementation. star is a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Project Hardware

2008-05-29 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:01:36PM -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: On May 28, 2008, at 05:11, James Andrewartha wrote: That's not a huge price difference when building a server - thanks for the pointer. Are there any 'gotchas' the list can offer when using a SAS card with SATA drives?

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore

2008-05-29 Thread Chris Siebenmann
| I very strongly disagree. The closest ZFS equivalent to ufsdump is | 'zfs send'. 'zfs send' like ufsdump has initmiate awareness of the | the actual on disk layout and is an integrated part of the filesystem | implementation. I must strongly disagree in turn, at least for Solaris 10. 'zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore

2008-05-29 Thread Ralf Bertling
Hi list, I'd recommend using zfs send /receive and use a secondary machine that keeps the received filesystems in a backup pool. This gives you the advantage of being able to scrub your backups. I'd like to add another question: Is there a way to efficiently replicating a complete zfs-pool

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with raidz

2008-05-29 Thread Marcelo Leal
Hello... If i have understood well, you will have a host with EMC RAID5 discs. Is that right? You pay a lot of money to have EMC discs, and i think is not a good idea have another layer of *any* RAID on top of it. If you have EMC RAID5 (eg. symmetrix), you don't need to have a software

Re: [zfs-discuss] Liveupgrade snv_77 with a ZFS root to snv_89

2008-05-29 Thread Albert Lee
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 07:07 -0700, Jim Klimov wrote: We have a test machine installed with a ZFS root (snv_77/x86 and rootpol/rootfs with grub support). Recently tried to update it to snv_89 which (in Flag Days list) claimed more support for ZFS boot roots, but the installer disk didn't

[zfs-discuss] 1TB ZFS thin provisioned partition prevents Opensolaris from booting.

2008-05-29 Thread Tano
Not sure where to put this but I am cc'ing the ZFS - discussion board. I was successfull in creating iscsi shares using ZFS set shareiscsi=on with 2 thin provisioned partitions of 1TB each (zfs create -s -V 1tb idrive/d1). Access to the shares with an iscsi initiator was successful, all was

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs equivalent of ufsdump and ufsrestore

2008-05-29 Thread Jonathan Hogg
On 29 May 2008, at 17:52, Chris Siebenmann wrote: The first issue alone makes 'zfs send' completely unsuitable for the purposes that we currently use ufsdump. I don't believe that we've lost a complete filesystem in years, but we restore accidentally deleted files all the time. (And

[zfs-discuss] Space used by the snapshot

2008-05-29 Thread Silvio Armando Davi
Hi, I create a pool mirrored with 1gb of space. After I create a file system in that pool and put a file (file1) of 300MB it that file system. After that, I create a snapshot in the file system. With the zfs list command the space used by the snapshot is 0 (zero). It´s ok. Well after that I

Re: [zfs-discuss] 1TB ZFS thin provisioned partition prevents Opensolaris from booting.

2008-05-29 Thread James C. McPherson
Tano wrote: Not sure where to put this but I am cc'ing the ZFS - discussion board. I was successfull in creating iscsi shares using ZFS set shareiscsi=on with 2 thin provisioned partitions of 1TB each (zfs create -s -V 1tb idrive/d1). Access to the shares with an iscsi initiator was

[zfs-discuss] slog failure ... *ANY* way to recover?

2008-05-29 Thread Jeb Campbell
Wow -- I had seen Joe Little's blog about i-ram and slog and was using it that way, and mine just failed also. I'm not at the point he is with data loss, but I've booted the OS 2008.05 livecd and I can see all the disks (minus the log) in an zpool import. Please, Please, Please, tell me there

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog failure ... *ANY* way to recover?

2008-05-29 Thread Joe Little
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Jeb Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meant to add that zpool import -f pool doesn't work b/c of the missing log vdev. All the other disks are there and show up with zpool import, but it won't import. Is there anyway a util could clear the log device vdev

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Project Hardware

2008-05-29 Thread Mathew P
I've had a RAIDZ/ZFS File Server since Update 2, so I thought I'd share my setup. Opteron FX-51 (2.3Ghz, Socket 939) Asus SK8N 4x 512MB EBB Unbuffered DDR1 Memory 2x Skymaster PCI-X 4 Port SATA (based on SI3114 Chipset). currently deployed over 2x PCI ports on the motherboard. 1x Intel 10/100

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog failure ... *ANY* way to recover?

2008-05-29 Thread Joe Little
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Joe Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Jeb Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meant to add that zpool import -f pool doesn't work b/c of the missing log vdev. All the other disks are there and show up with zpool import, but it